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Somewhere between bad bosses, HR nightmares, burnout, and the everyday chaos of leading people, they realized no one actually teaches you how to lead… so now they’re talking about it—the real way. With decades of combined experience in management, workplace culture, and learning through real-life challenges, Dana and Mary bring honest conversations, hard-earned lessons, relatable stories, and plenty of humor to leadership. They’re not claiming perfection—just two women figuring it out, one conversation at a time. Leadership isn’t perfect. Neither is this podcast. It’s Barely Manageable. 🎙️
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