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Care Beyond Barriers

Podcast by Heidi Health

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Join the leaders of Heidi as they unpack critical global healthcare issues and trends, and discuss how technological advances are shaping the future of care across the world for the better. Moderated by Christina Farr.

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episode Healthcare as Social Infrastructure: Loneliness, Prevention & the Future of Medicine artwork

Healthcare as Social Infrastructure: Loneliness, Prevention & the Future of Medicine

Loneliness. Housing instability. Food insecurity. Obesity. Chronic disease. Increasingly, these issues don’t land in community centres or social services, they land in GP clinics and emergency departments. What happens when medicine becomes the catch all for problems rooted in social fragmentation? From eight minute consultations that can’t possibly solve loneliness, to pharmacists becoming surrogate community anchors, to the economics of GLP-1 drugs as population-level interventions, the panel examines where the line between health and social intervention is blurring and whether healthcare was ever designed, or can continue, to carry this load. Key Topics: * Healthcare “plugging the gaps” of social collapse * Loneliness as a public health issue * Transactional, time-limited care models * Social prescribing and community activation * Food access and the “Tesco intervention” story * GLP-1s as preventative health investment * Lifelong medication and stigma * Lifestyle modification through pharmacology * AI companionship and digital social support * The rise of lifestyle medicine and neighbourhood care models Relevant Links and Resources: Connect with us: * Find all things Heidi at heidihealth.com [http://heidihealth.com] * Connect with Heidi on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/heidi] * Connect with Dr Tom Kelly on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/in/tomkeykong] * Connect with Christina Farr: * LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinafarr] * Second Opinion Media website [https://secondopinion.media/] * Lifers Podcast [https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv?si=4e587f23977c41a7] * Twitter/X [https://x.com/chrissyfarr] * Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/cfarr/] * Check out Christina’s book 'The Storytellers Advantage' [https://www.amazon.com/Storytellers-Advantage-Powerful-Narratives-Businesses/dp/1541704274]. * Connect with Dr Hannah Allen on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-a-a27ba650/] * Connect with Dr Simon Kos on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonkos/] Resources: * WHO – Social Isolation and Loneliness as Public Health  Priorities: https://www.who.int/teams/social-determinants-of-health/demographic-change-and-healthy-ageing/social-isolation-and-loneliness [https://www.who.int/teams/social-determinants-of-health/demographic-change-and-healthy-ageing/social-isolation-and-loneliness] * Social Prescribing - NHS England: https://www.england.nhs.uk/personalisedcare/social-prescribing/ [https://www.england.nhs.uk/personalisedcare/social-prescribing/] * USDA Food Access Research Atlas – Food Deserts & Healthy Food Access: https://ers.usda.gov/sites/default/files/_laserfiche/publications/42711/12701_ap036b_1_.pdf [https://ers.usda.gov/sites/default/files/_laserfiche/publications/42711/12701_ap036b_1_.pdf] * How Japan Is Automating Elder Care (MIT Technology Review): https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/01/09/1065135/japan-automating-eldercare-robots/ [https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/01/09/1065135/japan-automating-eldercare-robots/] * GLP-1 Medications & Prevention - Semaglutide for Obesity (STEP Trials, NEJM): https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2032183 [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2032183]

12 May 2026 - 28 min
episode Trust, Medical Error & the Future of Clinical Care artwork

Trust, Medical Error & the Future of Clinical Care

Trust in healthcare has fractured between patients and clinicians, clinicians and institutions, and across society more broadly. In the wake of COVID, public health messaging, misinformation, politicisation and time poor consultations have left many patients sceptical and many clinicians defensive. Where did that erosion begin? And how it shows up today: in misdiagnosis, in eight minute consults, in ego, and in incentive structures. The panel asks whether a clinician AI partnership could help rebuild trust by extending time, improving accuracy, making evidence transparent, and shifting medicine away from paternalism toward shared understanding. Key Topics: * COVID-era public health messaging and the long tail of mistrust * Medicine as a “special club” vs. transparency in the digital age * Misdiagnosis, dismissal, and why patients feel gaslit * Medical error and the “Swiss cheese” model of harm prevention * The eight minute consult and the limits of factory style care * Asynchronous follow-up and extended time horizons in care * Ego, hierarchy, and cultural resistance to AI * Antibiotics, incentives, and the tension between doing right by the patient vs. the system * Meeting patients where they are including digital platforms Relevant Links and Resources: Connect with us: * Find all things Heidi at heidihealth.com [http://heidihealth.com] * Connect with Heidi on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/heidi] * Connect with Dr Tom Kelly on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/in/tomkeykong] * Connect with Christina Farr: * LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinafarr] * Second Opinion Media website [https://secondopinion.media/] * Lifers Podcast [https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv?si=4e587f23977c41a7] * Twitter/X [https://x.com/chrissyfarr] * Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/cfarr/] * Check out Christina’s book 'The Storytellers Advantage' [https://www.amazon.com/Storytellers-Advantage-Powerful-Narratives-Businesses/dp/1541704274]. * Connect with Dr Hannah Allen on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-a-a27ba650/] * Connect with Dr Simon Kos on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonkos/] Resources: * To Err Is Human (Institute of Medicine report) - highlighting rates of medical error in the US: https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/9728/to-err-is-human-building-a-safer-health-system [https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/9728/to-err-is-human-building-a-safer-health-system] * Understanding the Swiss Cheese model and it’s application to patient care: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8514562/ [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8514562/] * Antibiotic/Antimicrobial Resistance: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/antimicrobial-resistance [https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/antimicrobial-resistance] * Java Health Forum article on ‘Healing the Growing Gap in Physician Trust’: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2843194 [https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2843194] * Interview on ‘Shared Decision Making — The Pinnacle of Patient-Centered Care’: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1109283 [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1109283]

28 Apr 2026 - 37 min
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Regulation, Incentives & the Systems Driving Modern Healthcare

Regulation is designed to protect patients. Incentives are designed to drive behaviour. When they misalign, the whole system distorts. What happens when 20 year approval cycles collide with startup timelines, when “wellness” blurs into medicine, and when payment models reward activity over outcomes?  Technology moves fast. Regulation and funding move slowly. The friction between the two is shaping what healthcare becomes next. Key Topics: * Regulation as trust infrastructure * 20-year pathways from innovation to reimbursement * The wellness vs medical grey zone * Fee-for-service vs value-based care * Quantity metrics vs quality outcomes * Prevention and population health * 30% healthcare waste * Whether AI lowers costs or drives them up Relevant Links and Resources: Connect with us: * Find all things Heidi at heidihealth.com [http://heidihealth.com] * Connect with Heidi on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/heidi] * Connect with Dr Tom Kelly on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/in/tomkeykong] * Connect with Christina Farr: * LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinafarr] * Second Opinion Media website [https://secondopinion.media/] * Lifers Podcast [https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv?si=4e587f23977c41a7] * Twitter/X [https://x.com/chrissyfarr] * Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/cfarr/] * Check out Christina’s book 'The Storytellers Advantage' [https://www.amazon.com/Storytellers-Advantage-Powerful-Narratives-Businesses/dp/1541704274]. * Connect with Dr Hannah Allen on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-a-a27ba650/] * Connect with Dr Simon Kos on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonkos/] Resources: * Germany’s DiGA Fast-Track pathway (digital health reimbursement model): https://www.jmir.org/2024/1/e59013/ [https://www.jmir.org/2024/1/e59013/] * FDA general guidance on medical devices & wellness products: https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices [https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices] * Official NHS Quality Of Outcomes Framework general practice data: https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/data-tools-and-services/data-services/general-practice-data-hub/quality-outcomes-framework-qof [https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/data-tools-and-services/data-services/general-practice-data-hub/quality-outcomes-framework-qof] * New Zealand Deploys AI Scribe at a Population Level: https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/anz/nz-deploy-ai-scribes-1000-emergency-clinicians [https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/anz/nz-deploy-ai-scribes-1000-emergency-clinicians] * McKinsey Report on Generative AI use and uptake: https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/healthcare/our-insights/generative-ai-in-healthcare-adoption-trends-and-whats-next [https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/healthcare/our-insights/generative-ai-in-healthcare-adoption-trends-and-whats-next] * Trends in the shortfall of English NHS general practice doctors: https://www.bmj.com/content/390/bmj-2024-083978 [https://www.bmj.com/content/390/bmj-2024-083978]

14 Apr 2026 - 44 min
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Capacity Collapse: Can AI Save Modern Medicine?

Healthcare systems are operating under sustained pressure. Expanding the workforce has not translated into improved access or stability. In some regions, increasing training places has exposed deeper infrastructure gaps,like placement bottlenecks, geographic mismatches, funding constraints and outdated care models that no longer reflect the burden of modern disease. How does capacity strain show up in day to day clinical work and why doesn’t supply alone resolve demand?  The panel explores alternative models of care: task shifting to mid level providers, telemedicine beyond video visits, asynchronous pathways, AI driven follow up agents and technology enabled antenatal support. As patients increasingly seek 24/7 guidance through digital tools, the conversation turns to risk, guardrails and accountability, and how to integrate new forms of care without compounding system instability. Key Topics: * Workforce expansion and the limits of “more doctors” * Training bottlenecks and infrastructure gaps (including the UK 5,000 GP example) * Chronic disease and the limits of hospital-era care models * Asynchronous and agentic care pathways * Task redistribution across nurses, midwives, allied health and peer networks * Clinician burnout and the “leaky bucket” problem * Liability and guardrails in AI-enabled care Relevant Links and Resources: Connect with us: * Find all things Heidi at heidihealth.com [http://heidihealth.com] * Connect with Heidi on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/heidi] * Connect with Dr Tom Kelly on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/in/tomkeykong] * Connect with Christina Farr: * LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinafarr] * Second Opinion Media website [https://secondopinion.media/] * Lifers Podcast [https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv?si=4e587f23977c41a7] * Twitter/X [https://x.com/chrissyfarr] * Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/cfarr/] * Check out Christina’s book 'The Storytellers Advantage' [https://www.amazon.com/Storytellers-Advantage-Powerful-Narratives-Businesses/dp/1541704274]. * Connect with Dr Hannah Allen on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-a-a27ba650/] * Connect with Dr Simon Kos on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonkos/] Resources: * NHS Workplace Expansion (5000 GP initiative): https://www.england.nhs.uk/gp/expanding-our-workforce/ [https://www.england.nhs.uk/gp/expanding-our-workforce/] * Nowhere to go: Maternity Care Deserts across the US 2024 Report: https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/reports/united-states/maternity-care-deserts [https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/reports/united-states/maternity-care-deserts] * BMA report on medical attrition & workforce pressures: https://www.bma.org.uk/media/gsmfle1o/tackling-the-cost-of-attrition-uks-health-services.pdf [https://www.bma.org.uk/media/gsmfle1o/tackling-the-cost-of-attrition-uks-health-services.pdf] * The state of medical education and practice in the UK Workplace experiences 2025 (GMC UK): https://www.gmc-uk.org/cdn/documents/somep-workplace-experiences-report-2025-full-report_pdf-111877911.pdf [https://www.gmc-uk.org/cdn/documents/somep-workplace-experiences-report-2025-full-report_pdf-111877911.pdf]

31 Mar 2026 - 32 min
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The Current State of the Healthcare System

Rising chronic disease, ageing populations, clinician burnout, and regulatory inertia are colliding in real time and putting healthcare systems around the globe under immense pressure. In this opening episode of Care Beyond Barriers, Christina Farr sits down with Dr Tom Kelly, Dr Hannah Allen and Dr Simon Kos to unpack what’s happening inside clinics and whether artificial intelligence can responsibly support clinicians without replacing them. From the nostalgic “platonic ideal” of a single trusted GP to today’s cognitively overloaded, system-driven care model, the panel explores how the role of the doctor is evolving. They tackle uncomfortable questions around AI accuracy, human fallibility, regulation, autonomous prescribing, and what remains uniquely human in medicine. Key Topics: * The global supply demand mismatch in healthcare * The cognitive overload of modern clinical practice * Why the role of the doctor has fundamentally changed * AI accuracy vs. human fallibility and the myth of perfection * Regulation, experimentation, and patient safety * Autonomous prescribing: inevitable evolution or ethical risk? * The future identity of the clinician in an AI-augmented world Connect with us: * Find all things Heidi at heidihealth.com [https://www.heidihealth.com/] * Connect with Heidi on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/heidi] * Connect with Dr Tom Kelly on LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/in/tomkeykong] * Connect with Christina Farr: * LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinafarr] * Second Opinion Media website [https://secondopinion.media/] * Lifers Podcast [https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv?si=4e587f23977c41a7] * Twitter/X [https://x.com/chrissyfarr] * Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/cfarr/] * Check out Christina’s book 'The Storytellers Advantage'. [https://www.amazon.com/Storytellers-Advantage-Powerful-Narratives-Businesses/dp/1541704274] * Connect with Dr Hannah Allen on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-a-a27ba650/] * Connect with Dr Simon Kos on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonkos/] Resources: * Doctronic (Utah autonomous prescribing case referenced) * Utah & Doctronic Official Pilot (Regulatory Announcement): https://commerce.utah.gov/2026/01/06/news-release-utah-and-doctronic-announce-groundbreaking-partnership-for-ai-prescription-medication-renewals/ [https://commerce.utah.gov/2026/01/06/news-release-utah-and-doctronic-announce-groundbreaking-partnership-for-ai-prescription-medication-renewals/] * Doctronic Autonomous AI Evaluation (preprint): https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.22902 [https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.22902] * AI Prescribing Pilot in Utah (Politico): https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/06/artificial-intelligence-prescribing-medications-utah-00709122 [https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/06/artificial-intelligence-prescribing-medications-utah-00709122] * Waymo (autonomous vehicle example discussed) * Company safety impact dashboard: https://waymo.com/safety/impact/ [https://waymo.com/safety/impact/] * PubMed Autonomous Driving Crash Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39485678/ [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39485678/]

3 Mar 2026 - 50 min
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