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Getting to Good Enough

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About Getting to Good Enough

A podcast to help you let go of perfectionism so you can live life with more ease, less stress and a lot more laughter. Your hosts are: Janine Adams, a Certified Professional Organizer, who is naturally good at good enough and Shannon Wilkinson, a Life Coach and recovering perfectionist who is learning to be better at good enough. Together they share tips, techniques and stories from their organizing and coaching practices, as well as their own lives, to help you worry less about perfection and do more of what you love.

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Learning New Things (Even When You’re Bad at Them)

Learning something new can be humbling, especially when something that used to take 15 seconds suddenly takes 45 minutes. This week, Shannon and Janine talk about what it’s like to be a beginner again — the frustration, the challenge, and sometimes even the fun of figuring things out from scratch. The conversation explores why some difficult things feel worth pushing through while others make us want to walk away immediately, and how habits, structure, and personal motivation can shape that experience. They also talk about the difference between “this is hard” and “this isn’t for me,” along with a reframe that feels especially meaningful: maybe the issue isn’t that we quit when things are difficult. Maybe we’re just more willing to stay with the things we genuinely care about. WHAT WE TALK ABOUT * 00:55 — Janine explains why she spent the weekend buried in bookkeeping and switching from QuickBooks to Xero * 02:55 — The “one tiny goal” approach: entering a single transaction and seeing what happens next * 03:22 — Why Janine isn’t discouraged by a steep learning curve * 04:12 — The satisfaction of going from struggle to fluency when learning something new * 05:09 — How learning difficult things helps Janine better understand her YNAB coaching clients * 05:47 — Shannon shares how NLP trainer training included learning bongo drumming * 08:44 — Why some difficult tasks get easier when they become part of a daily habit * 11:18 — Shannon explores the difference between things that feel challenging versus things that feel impossible * 13:09 — The role of motivation, structure, and measurable progress in sticking with hard things * 18:02 — A powerful reframe: maybe it’s not “I quit when things are hard,” but “I stick with things I actually care about” KEY TAKEAWAYS * Making the goal extremely small (“enter one transaction”) can reduce resistance and help you get started when learning something new. * Daily repetition changes difficult tasks from confusing to familiar much faster than occasional effort. * There’s a meaningful difference between something feeling challenging and something feeling impossible. * Structure helps: measurable progress, clear rules, and low-pressure goals make hard things easier to stick with. * You don’t have to force yourself to pursue every difficult idea that pops into your head. * Sometimes quitting isn’t failure — it’s clarity about what actually matters to you. THE BOTTOM LINE Learning new things can feel painfully slow at first, especially when you were already competent with the old system. But this episode is really about paying attention to which hard things feel meaningful enough to keep going. Janine and Shannon explore the idea that perseverance isn’t necessarily about discipline or grit — sometimes it’s about caring enough to stay engaged through the difficult beginning stage. And maybe that’s useful information, not a character flaw. This week, try noticing one thing you’ve been avoiding because it feels hard. Instead of asking whether you’re “good at it,” ask whether you actually care about it. That answer might tell you a lot. WANT MORE LIKE THIS Episode 49: Getting Started [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-49-getting-started] A really strong companion episode to this conversation about resistance, overwhelm, and making difficult things feel doable. Shannon and Janine talk about tiny steps, timers, perfectionism, and why getting started is often the hardest part. Episode 75: Letting Go of Fear [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-75-letting-go-of-fear] This episode explores the fears that often sit underneath avoidance and perfectionism, along with practical ways to move through them instead of getting stuck there. A great pairing with this week’s conversation about difficult beginnings. Episode 135: Keeping Challenges Easy [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-135-keeping-challenges-easy] A thoughtful conversation about habit challenges, keeping stakes low, choosing goals you actually want, and making progress in ways that are sustainable and kind. CONNECT WITH US * Leave us a voicemail: 413-424-GTGE (4843) * Comment on social media: @gettingtogoodenough on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gettingtogoodenough], Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/gettingtogoodenough/], and YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@GettingtoGoodEnough] * Email: gettingtogoodenough@gmail.com * Watch the conversation on YouTube! [https://youtu.be/33B5KAQdsSg]

21 May 2026 - 22 min
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Two-Minute Resets for Overwhelm, Procrastination, and Getting Back on Track

Ever find yourself scrolling social media even while a part of your brain is begging you to stop? Or staring at your to-do list so long that suddenly reorganizing pens feels like a reasonable life choice? In this episode, Shannon and Janine talk about the surprisingly powerful little resets that can help when you feel stuck, overwhelmed, distracted, paralyzed, or just mentally done. And the best part? Most of them take about two minutes. They share the tiny things that help them shift gears: writing in a bullet journal, clearing off a desk, walking away for a minute, petting a pet, drinking water, climbing stairs, stretching, and even bouncing a ball against the wall for physical therapy. It’s all about getting unstuck without turning it into another perfectionistic self-improvement project. WHAT WE TALK ABOUT * 01:46 — Why even tiny interruptions can help you refocus * 02:29 — Shannon’s trick for escaping a social-media rabbit hole without fighting herself * 03:29 — The “what do I do next?” feeling and decision paralysis at work * 05:24 — Using a bullet journal and longhand writing to sort out uncertainty fast * 08:17 — How desk clutter affects focus and mental space * 10:06 — Why lack of planning can create overwhelm * 11:42 — The power of physically stepping away from your workspace * 12:20 — Einstein played violin when he got stuck — why changing mental gears helps * 13:23 — Hydration, stretching, and tiny physical interruptions that reset your brain * 18:10 — The therapeutic benefits of finding and petting a very soft cat KEY TAKEAWAYS * When you’re stuck in a doomscrolling loop or overwhelm spiral, you often don’t need a huge intervention — just enough of a shift to interrupt the pattern. * Writing things out by hand can quickly uncover what you already know but are second-guessing. * Clearing even a tiny amount of physical clutter can create more mental breathing room. * Movement helps. That can mean stairs, stretching, walking outside, physical therapy exercises, or chasing your dog around the dining room table. * Planning ahead helps reduce overwhelm, but when you’ve fallen off track, revisiting your existing lists can help you reorient quickly. * A “reset” doesn’t have to be productive to work. Sometimes drinking water, reading a page of a book, or petting a cat is exactly what your brain needs. THE BOTTOM LINE When you’re overwhelmed, distracted, or frozen, it’s easy to think you need a perfect system, a huge burst of motivation, or a completely free day to get back on track. But often, what actually helps is much smaller and gentler than that. A two-minute reset won’t solve everything. But it can break the spell. It can shift your attention just enough to help you remember what matters, reconnect with yourself, or take the next tiny step. So the next time you feel stuck, try one small thing: clear a corner of your desk, write a few sentences by hand, walk up the stairs, drink a glass of water, or go find a very soft cat. WANT MORE LIKE THIS Episode 84: Overthinking [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-84-overthinking] A great companion to this episode if your brain loves turning simple decisions into full-scale mental marathons. Shannon and Janine talk about how perfectionism fuels overthinking — and how to stop getting trapped in it. Episode 173: Keeping Commitments to Yourself [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-173-keeping-commitments-to-yourself] This episode pairs beautifully with the “tiny resets” theme. Shannon and Janine discuss rebuilding self-trust, making things easier to restart, and focusing on the smallest doable action instead of waiting to feel perfectly motivated. Episode 243: Are We Having Fun Yet? [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-243-are-we-having-fun-yet] A lighter, laughter-filled conversation about making everyday life more enjoyable — including finding fun ways to do things you’d otherwise avoid. Also features another appearance by Shannon’s cat Cleo. CONNECT WITH US If this episode resonated, we’d love to hear from you. How does this show up in your life? What helps—even just a little? * Leave us a voicemail: 413-424-GTGE (4843) * Comment on social media: @gettingtogoodenough on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gettingtogoodenough], Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/gettingtogoodenough/], and YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@GettingtoGoodEnough] * Email: gettingtogoodenough@gmail.com * Watch the conversation on YouTube! [https://youtu.be/uKHfWgxADg8]

14 May 2026 - 21 min
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When Planning Becomes Procrastination (and What Actually Helps)

Ever find yourself “planning to plan”… and somehow never actually starting? In this episode, Shannon and Janine talk about how perfectionism sneaks into planning—especially when the stakes feel high. What starts as wanting to be responsible (hello, disaster prep and estate planning) can quietly turn into overthinking, avoidance, and doing nothing at all. With a real-life interruption (tornado sirens!) and a very relatable conversation, they explore what it actually looks like to move forward—without waiting for the perfect plan. * Watch the conversation on YouTube! [https://youtu.be/2RSWCg318WM] WHAT WE TALK ABOUT * 02:08 — Sy’s first marathon and the joy of choosing to do (and support!) hard things * 05:04 — Tornado sirens interrupt the recording * 06:15 — How the interruption shifts the conversation to emergency preparedness * 07:21 — Having supplies vs. having them accessible when it matters * 07:54 — Why planning for disasters feels so tense and overwhelming * 11:00 — “Planning to plan” as a form of procrastination * 11:32 — Starting small: the go-bag and one simple first step * 13:13 — Estate planning as another high-stakes thing we avoid * 15:47 — Post-it notes, jars, and choosing a doable next action * 17:48 — Perfectionism and the myth of the “right way” * 20:07 — How this shows up in vacations, closets, and everyday life KEY TAKEAWAYS * Perfectionism often shows up as planning—especially when something feels important or high-stakes. * Waiting to figure out the “right way” can keep you from doing anything at all. * Small, imperfect actions (like pulling out a backpack or writing a list) create momentum. * You don’t need a perfect sequence—just a starting point that leads to the next step. * This pattern shows up everywhere: disaster prep, estate planning, organizing, even vacations. * “Anything is better than nothing” is a surprisingly powerful strategy. THE BOTTOM LINE When something matters, it’s easy to believe you need to get it exactly right. But that pressure is often what keeps you stuck. The truth is, there’s no perfect plan—just a series of small steps that build on each other. Start with something simple: pull out the backpack, write down a few ideas, pick one and do it. You can adjust as you go. For now, let “started” be enough. WANT MORE LIKE THIS Episode 12: Procrastination [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-12-procrastination] A foundational episode on why we put things off—even when they matter—and how to get moving again without overthinking it. Episode 121: Productive Preparation [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-121-productive-preparation] A great companion to this conversation about planning without getting stuck. Helpful if you tend to over-plan instead of take action. Episode 240: Low-Hanging Fruit [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-240-low-hanging-fruit] A reminder that the easiest next step still counts. Especially useful when everything feels too big to start. CONNECT WITH US * Leave us a voicemail: 413-424-GTGE (4843) * Comment on social media: @gettingtogoodenough on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gettingtogoodenough], Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/gettingtogoodenough/], and YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@GettingtoGoodEnough] * Email: gettingtogoodenough@gmail.com

7 May 2026 - 21 min
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Financial Perfectionism (and Why It Keeps You Stuck)

Most of us don’t sit around chatting about money for fun. Usually, if money comes up, it’s because something feels off—stress, a mistake, that vague sense that things should be better than they are. In this episode, Shannon and Janine talk about financial perfectionism—what it looks like, how it sneaks in, and why trying to “do money right” can actually make everything feel harder. They also share a much more doable approach: paying attention, getting honest, and letting your spending reflect what actually matters to you. WHAT WE TALK ABOUT 00:00 — That uncomfortable feeling when your spending doesn’t match what matters to you 01:26 — Why most money conversations start with stress, not curiosity 03:10 — “Give every dollar a job” and why that shifts how money feels 06:11 — How having a plan (even if you have debt) can feel surprisingly calm 08:42 — The pressure to do money “the right way” and how perfectionism shows up 10:53 — What happens when you’re not actually funding the things you care about 12:44 — The spiral: one mistake → “I’m bad at this” → why bother 13:16 — Why small, steady changes work better than big, perfect plans 15:31 — The surprising moment when getting ahead on bills starts to feel… fun? 16:55 — Why knowing the truth about your money is hard—and also a relief KEY TAKEAWAYS * Feeling “bad with money” is often about misalignment, not failure * Perfectionism turns normal mistakes into a reason to give up * There’s no perfect system—just the one you’ll actually use * Small shifts add up (and often feel better faster than you expect) * Clarity reduces stress—even when the numbers aren’t what you hoped * You can start messy and still make meaningful progress THE BOTTOM LINE Financial perfectionism keeps you stuck because it convinces you there’s a “right” way to do money—and that if you’re not doing it that way, you’ve already failed. So you avoid looking, or you give up after a mistake, or you keep trying to get it perfect before you really engage. Meanwhile, nothing actually changes. What Shannon and Janine come back to is much simpler (and honestly, much more doable): pay attention to what’s real, decide what matters to you, and start letting your money reflect that—even imperfectly. The goal isn’t to never make mistakes. It’s to stay engaged even when you do. That’s where the shift happens. If you want a place to start: write down your accounts and balances. No fixing, no optimizing. Just… look. That small act of awareness is the first step out of the perfectionism trap. * Watch the conversation on YouTube! [https://youtu.be/x2LlZLD4T1U] WANT MORE LIKE THIS Episode 85: Doing Good in the World A surprisingly relevant tie-in: how perfectionism and overwhelm stop us from taking action—and how doing something small (instead of perfect) is what actually creates change. Episode 87: Financial Peace One of the first episodes about money. It's more about how having a plan (and giving every dollar a job) reduces stress and helps your money feel supportive instead of overwhelming. Episode 196: Building an Anti-Perfectionist Toolkit A really practical follow-up if you're thinking, “Okay, but what do I do when I get stuck?” This episode is all about having tools ready for those moments when perfectionism starts to take over. CONNECT WITH US * Leave us a voicemail: 413-424-GTGE (4843) * Comment on social media: @gettingtogoodenough on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gettingtogoodenough], Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/gettingtogoodenough/], and YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@GettingtoGoodEnough] * Email: gettingtogoodenough@gmail.com

30 Apr 2026 - 23 min
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What Is Enough? A Different Way to Decide

You sit down to send a quick email—and somehow 15 minutes later, you’re still tweaking it. If you’ve ever wondered why some things feel weirdly hard to finish, this episode gets at the heart of it. Shannon and Janine explore what “enough” actually means—and why it’s not about doing less, but about aligning your effort with what’s important to you. Because when you’re clear on what matters (whether that’s accuracy, connection, or just getting something done), it gets a whole lot easier to stop overworking things that don’t need it—and move on without that nagging feeling that you should keep going. WHAT WE TALK ABOUT 01:12 — The question at the center of it all: what actually counts as enough? 01:51 — Letting what’s important to you—not habit or perfectionism—set the bar 02:15 — The email example: when it’s worth polishing… and when “what’s for dinner?” is plenty 03:20 — A simple definition of perfectionism: spending more time on something than it deserves 04:24 — The quiet (and kind of delightful) shift of saying “good enough” and moving on 05:30 — Catching yourself overdoing it—like with show notes—and choosing to stop 06:31 — Why getting in touch with what matters gets easier—and more useful—over time 07:08 — When “enough” just means done (and that’s just right) 16:09 — A favorite example: choosing your relationship with family over a perfectly cleaned pan KEY TAKEAWAYS * Perfectionism often shows up as spending more time on something than it actually deserves * “Enough” isn’t arbitrary—it’s grounded in what matters to you * When you know what’s important, decisions get simpler and faster * Sometimes enough is simply finishing the thing so you can move on * Letting go of control can feel uncomfortable—and also surprisingly freeing * You can spend the same amount of time perfecting one thing or doing a good-enough version of the whole THE BOTTOM LINE “Enough” isn’t about lowering your standards—it’s about choosing them on purpose. When your values are setting the bar, instead of an unachievable idea of perfectionism, things tend to get a little easier (and a lot less exhausting). And the bonus? You don’t just get more done—you get more of what actually matters. You’re not just saving time—you’re redirecting it toward the things that make your life feel better. Small action: The next time you catch yourself overworking something, pause and ask: What’s important here? Then let that answer—not perfectionism—decide when you’re done. * Watch the conversation on YouTube [https://youtu.be/Qc9dRaU72IU] WANT MORE LIKE THIS? Episode 21: Know Your Why [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-21-know-your-why] A foundational GTGE episode for a reason. If this conversation clicked for you, this is a great next listen on getting clear about what really matters to you—and using that as your guide. Episode 36: Feeling Satisfied [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-36-feeling-satisfied] What does it look like to feel satisfied with something that isn’t perfect? This episode explores how noticing and allowing satisfaction can shift your whole relationship with “good enough”—without making you complacent. Episode 75: Letting Go of Fear [https://getting-to-good-enough.captivate.fm/episode/episode-75-letting-go-of-fear] A look at how fear quietly fuels perfectionism—and some practical ways to question it so you can move forward without getting stuck or overthinking everything. CONNECT WITH US If this episode resonated, we’d love to hear from you. * Leave us a voicemail: 413-424-GTGE (4843) * Comment on social media: @gettingtogoodenough on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gettingtogoodenough], Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/gettingtogoodenough/], and YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@GettingtoGoodEnough] * Email: gettingtogoodenough@gmail.com Please remember to leave us a review!

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