In the Making

Podcast by Baratunde Thurston, Ashleigh Gardere, Michael McAfee

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About In the Making

This nation is still in the making. We the People? We're in the making too. In the Making is a new series from PolicyLink hosted by Baratunde Thurston, featuring kitchen table conversations with PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere. Together, they explore how to redesign the nation so that it serves all people.

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Becoming We the People

Host Baratunde Thurston returns with PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere to explore why we should be the founders of a redesigned nation for all. They discuss why we must own our power and birthright to do this work, how love and accountability must guide us, and the six essential founders’ capacities we must cultivate in ourselves and our institutions on this journey.

21 May 2026 - 32 min

Redesigning Democracy for All

Amid political chaos, low trust in institutions and government, and the grief of this moment, host Baratunde Thurston, CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere discuss why this moment calls for redesigning this nation—and how it's always been the people excluded from democracy who have brought it closer to its promise.

14 May 2026 - 30 min

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