Never Mind The Dambusters

WARNING: This episode includes discussion of  issues surrounding the Holocaust and genocide which some listeners may find distressing. In this episode, the hosts engage in a profound discussion with Dr. Waitman Beorn about the controversial topic of whether the Allies could and should have bombed Auschwitz during World War II. They explore the historical context, the knowledge the Allies had about the Holocaust, the technological capabilities of air power at the time, and the moral implications of such a decision. The conversation delves into the complexities of wartime decision-making and the tragic consequences of inaction, ultimately questioning the Allies' response to the Holocaust. You can read more about Waitman's work here [https://www.waitmanwbeorn.com/] Marching into Darkness: The Wehrmacht in Belarus [https://www.waterstones.com/book/marching-into-darkness/waitman-wade-beorn/9780674725508] Also discussed in this episode: Michael Neufeld (Editor): The Bombing of Auschwitz. [https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780312198381/Bombing-Auschwitz-0312198388/plp] Send us a text [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/2327200/open_sms] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/support] Please subscribe to Never Mind The Dambusters wherever you get your podcasts. You can support the show, and help us produce great content, by becoming a paid subscriber from just $3 a month here https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/support . Supporters get early access to episodes and invitations to livestreams. Thank you for listening! You can reach out to us on social media at @RAF_BomberPod [https://twitter.com/RAFBomber_Pod] (X) or @NeverMindTheDambusters [https://www.instagram.com/nevermindthedambusters/](Instagram) You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here [https://t.co/3d8LBomDRU] . You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/ [https://www.justcuriousjane.com/], and listen to podcasts/media stuff here [https://linktr.ee/gullifordlowes]

Subscriber-only episode [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/supporters/new] ***Episode available on general release on Wednesday 11 December 2024 WARNING: This episode includes discussion of  issues surrounding the Holocaust and genocide which some listeners may find distressing. In this episode, the hosts engage in a profound discussion with Dr. Waitman Beorn about the controversial topic of whether the Allies could and should have bombed Auschwitz during World War II. They explore the historical context, the knowledge the Allies had about the Holocaust, the technological capabilities of air power at the time, and the moral implications of such a decision. The conversation delves into the complexities of wartime decision-making and the tragic consequences of inaction, ultimately questioning the Allies' response to the Holocaust. You can read more about Waitman's work here [https://www.waitmanwbeorn.com/] Marching into Darkness: The Wehrmacht in Belarus [https://www.waterstones.com/book/marching-into-darkness/waitman-wade-beorn/9780674725508] Also discussed in this episode: Michael Neufeld (Editor): The Bombing of Auschwitz. [https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780312198381/Bombing-Auschwitz-0312198388/plp] Send us a text [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/2327200/open_sms] Please subscribe to Never Mind The Dambusters wherever you get your podcasts. You can support the show, and help us produce great content, by becoming a paid subscriber from just $3 a month here https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/support . Supporters get early access to episodes and invitations to livestreams. Thank you for listening! You can reach out to us on social media at @RAF_BomberPod [https://twitter.com/RAFBomber_Pod] (X) or @NeverMindTheDambusters [https://www.instagram.com/nevermindthedambusters/](Instagram) You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here [https://t.co/3d8LBomDRU] . You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/ [https://www.justcuriousjane.com/], and listen to podcasts/media stuff here [https://linktr.ee/gullifordlowes]

In this episode, James Jefferies and Jane Gulliford Lowes engage in a lively discussion with author Luke Turner about the complexities of Bomber Command's history, model-making, the legacy of the Dambusters film, his fascination with 158 Squadron, and the personal stories of individuals like Bertram Warr. They explore themes of masculinity, memory, and the importance of memorials, while also addressing the overshadowing of lesser-known squadrons and operations. The conversation highlights the need for a nuanced understanding of war narratives and the human experiences behind them. Luke  Turner is a writer and editor, the author of Out of the Woods [https://www.weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/titles/luke-turner/out-of-the-woods/9781474607155/], and the fabulous Men at War [https://www.weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/titles/luke-turner/men-at-war/9781474618878/] Send us a text [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/2327200/open_sms] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/support] Please subscribe to Never Mind The Dambusters wherever you get your podcasts. You can support the show, and help us produce great content, by becoming a paid subscriber from just $3 a month here https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/support . Supporters get early access to episodes and invitations to livestreams. Thank you for listening! You can reach out to us on social media at @RAF_BomberPod [https://twitter.com/RAFBomber_Pod] (X) or @NeverMindTheDambusters [https://www.instagram.com/nevermindthedambusters/](Instagram) You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here [https://t.co/3d8LBomDRU] . You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/ [https://www.justcuriousjane.com/], and listen to podcasts/media stuff here [https://linktr.ee/gullifordlowes]

Subscriber-only episode [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/supporters/new] *** Episode on general release on Wednesday 4 December In this episode, James Jefferies and Jane Gulliford Lowes engage in a lively discussion with author Luke Turner about the complexities of Bomber Command's history, model-making, the legacy of the Dambusters film, his fascination with 158 Squadron, and the personal stories of individuals like Bertram Warr. They explore themes of masculinity, memory, and the importance of memorials, while also addressing the overshadowing of lesser-known squadrons and operations. The conversation highlights the need for a nuanced understanding of war narratives and the human experiences behind them. Luke  Turner is a writer and editor, the author of Out of the Woods [https://www.weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/titles/luke-turner/out-of-the-woods/9781474607155/], and the fabulous Men at War [https://www.weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/titles/luke-turner/men-at-war/9781474618878/] Send us a text [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/2327200/open_sms] Please subscribe to Never Mind The Dambusters wherever you get your podcasts. You can support the show, and help us produce great content, by becoming a paid subscriber from just $3 a month here https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/support . Supporters get early access to episodes and invitations to livestreams. Thank you for listening! You can reach out to us on social media at @RAF_BomberPod [https://twitter.com/RAFBomber_Pod] (X) or @NeverMindTheDambusters [https://www.instagram.com/nevermindthedambusters/](Instagram) You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here [https://t.co/3d8LBomDRU] . You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/ [https://www.justcuriousjane.com/], and listen to podcasts/media stuff here [https://linktr.ee/gullifordlowes]

This week, Jane and James explore the training of bomber crews, and the perilous nature of life at the OTUs and HCUs.  They discuss the training structure, the tragic story of a training flight that ended in disaster for the Canadian crew, and the importance of memorializing those who lost their lives in training. Jane talks about a new bomber command memorial and tells a story very close to her heart. The episode also includes viewer questions about  WAAFs on board bombers, volunteering for additional ops,  post-war careers for aircrew, the Italian Star campaign medal, dual control aircraft and numerous other bits and pieces! You can read more about the Slingley Bomber Crash here [https://www.justcuriousjane.com/slingley-bomber-crash/] We'll post some pictures of the new memorial to the crew on our social media. We also have a  new Facebook page/group - here's the link [https://www.facebook.com/groups/936602261304866/] if you want to join.  Send us a text [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/2327200/open_sms] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/support] Please subscribe to Never Mind The Dambusters wherever you get your podcasts. You can support the show, and help us produce great content, by becoming a paid subscriber from just $3 a month here https://www.buzzsprout.com/2327200/support . Supporters get early access to episodes and invitations to livestreams. Thank you for listening! You can reach out to us on social media at @RAF_BomberPod [https://twitter.com/RAFBomber_Pod] (X) or @NeverMindTheDambusters [https://www.instagram.com/nevermindthedambusters/](Instagram) You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here [https://t.co/3d8LBomDRU] . You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/ [https://www.justcuriousjane.com/], and listen to podcasts/media stuff here [https://linktr.ee/gullifordlowes]