Real Human Design Stories
Podcast by Kathy Bochonko
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67 episodesErin Payne is a 1/3 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Her story is one of courage, transformation, and reclaiming her authenticity. After leaving the Mormon Church, Erin embarked on a journey of self-discovery, healing, and alignment that reshaped her life. In this episode, Erin shares how she stepped away from a life of conformity, rebuilt her relationships, and found freedom in her personal expression. She recounts her introduction to Human Design and the profound impact it had on her family, marriage, and sense of self. We dive into: • Leaving the Mormon Church and rediscovering her voice • Her first Human Design reading and how it changed her perspective • Transforming her marriage by embracing her and her husband’s unique designs • How we worked together to align her personal style with her true essence, deconditioning her outward expression and allowing her to shine • The ripple effect of her transformation on her husband and their six children This conversation is a powerful testament to the life-changing possibilities of embracing your truth and letting your light shine. Chapter Titles 00:00:30 Meet Erin Payne 00:02:45 Erin Shares Her Story of Leaving the Mormon Church 00:14:57 Human Design Enters Erin’s Life 0:25:20 Integrating Human Design 00:29:50 Erin’s New Marriage Paradigm 00:35:19 How Erin’s Experiment Changed Her Relationship With Her Projector Husband 00:36:42 Sam and Erin Started Tapping Through Difficulties and Reentered Their Relationship Correctly by Type 00:47:06 Outer Visions, Aesthetics, and Deconditioning Your Outward Expression 00:49:35 Erin Talks About Shedding Her Mormon Garments and Embracing Her Sense of Style 00:55:01 Feeling Safe to Be Moody 01:00:09 How These Changes Impact Erin’s Kids 01:02:31 Thank You for Sharing Your Story During our work together, I guided Erin in reconnecting with her personal style and deconditioning her outward expression. This transformation became an outward reflection of the deep inner work she had been doing, allowing her to align her appearance and presence with her true self. If Erin’s story inspires you, it’s time for the world to see you shine your light. I’m launching an 8-week group program in January (currently in beta) to help align your outward expression with the inner work you’ve been doing. Email me at itsme@kathybochonko.com [itsme@kathybochonko.com] to get on the waitlist and be among the first to know when enrollment opens. Contact Erin Payne Website: theerinmichelle.com [https://theerinmichelle.com/] Contact Me Website: kathybochonko.com [https://kathybochonko.com/] Join my Facebook group, Intuitive Human Design [https://www.facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign], for more resources and community support! Visit realhumandesignstories.com [https://realhumandesignstories.com/] for more info and to explore past episodes. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support]
In Episode 65 of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Karen McMullen, a 4/6 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Karen’s journey is nothing short of transformative. In 2014, she had what most people dream of: a thriving business, a loving relationship, good health, and a life of adventure. Yet, she felt drained and disconnected. Discovering Human Design sparked a profound awakening for Karen, leading her on a decade-long journey of healing, self-discovery, and reclaiming her joy. Today, she helps clients gain the confidence and clarity to launch their next-level creations and make the impact they were born to make. Karen is also an accomplished author, having written multiple channeled books, with her latest project focusing on Generators and Manifesting Generators. Her YouTube channel, where she shares Human Design insights, receives over 800 views daily, offering a steady stream of inspiration and education. Originally from Canada, Karen now lives a life filled with creativity and passion, often salsa dancing in Havana. Timestamps: 00:00:30 Introducing Karen McMullen 00:2:06 Karen’s Story 00:09:19 Tearing Down Her Life and Going on the Roof 00:16:56 Embracing Sexual Potential 00:20:25 Channeling Her Book 00:27:42 The Projector’s Critical Need to Alchemize Bitterness 00:35:13 Dancing in Havana 00:39:11 Talking About Driving Down to Florida 00:42:56 Karen’s Experience With Channeling 00:47:36 The Frequency Transmission of Human Design 00:54:47 How to Work With Karen Key Insights: • Being in the Now and Trusting Perfect Timing • Embracing the Sleeping Phoenix Energy to Rebuild Your Life • “Until You Claim Your Gift, Your Gift is a Problem” • How to Alchemize Bitterness as a Projector • Are You Alive or Not?! Connect with Karen: Website: KarenMcMullen.ca [https://www.karenmcmullen.ca/] YouTube: Karen McMullen [https://www.youtube.com/@karenmcmullen] Instagram: @iamkarenmcmullen [https://www.instagram.com/iamkarenmcmullen/] Connect with Kathy: Website: KathyBochonko.com [https://kathybochonko.com/] Instagram: @KathyBochonko [https://www.instagram.com/kathybochonko/] Facebook Community: Intuitive Human Design [https://www.facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign] If Karen’s story resonates with you and you’re ready to dive deeper into your own Human Design, I’d love to support you on your journey. Whether you’re exploring your unique design or seeking mentorship, let’s connect and discover how to align with your truth. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support]
In this special solo episode of Real Human Design Stories, I’m diving into two essential R’s: Rest and Recognition. You might think this topic is primarily for Projectors, and while Projectors will resonate deeply, this message goes beyond any single energy type. It’s for everyone seeking to honor what their body truly needs. This episode comes at a time when I’ve felta strong inner calling to slow down, listen to my body, and resist the pressure to “perform” just for recognition. I talk about the challenges of letting go, embracing rest, and learning to recognize ourselves beyond the validation of others. After a season of deep engagement and excitement from presenting at two recent Human Design conferences, I came home to a surprising inner request—to simply rest. In this episode, I explore what it means to hold radical self-trust during times of rest and to trust that our worth isn’t dependent on constant action. So, if you’ve been feeling the pressure to keep up, stay visible, or “push through” when your body is calling for a break, join me as we unpack the importance of tuning in and trusting ourselves. Timestamps: 00:00:29 – Introduction to the Episode – Need for Some R&R: Rest & Recognition 00:04:40 – Finding Clarity Amidst the Urge to Do More 00:05:18 – Reflections on My Recent Human Design Conference Experiences 00:10:03 – The Call to Slow Down & Melancholy as a Natural State of Reflection 00:14:48 – Embracing Radical Self-Trust during Uncertain Times 00:17:12 – Outro Key Insights: The importance of rest and honoring your body’s signals, even when it’s inconvenient. Understanding that real recognition comes when we’re not seeking it—it finds us naturally. Radical self-trust isn’t about certainty; it’s about trusting that we’re fully equipped to handle whatever comes our way. Letting go of the need to “perform” or be visible all the time in favor of being truly aligned with ourselves. If this message resonates, and you're ready to explore your Human Design journey, I’d love to support you in learning how to honor your unique path through radical self-trust. Visit KathyBochonko.com [https://kathybochonko.com/]for more on mentorship and readings. Join our community for deeper conversations about Human Design: facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign [https://www.facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support]
In this Real Human Design Stories episode 63, I sit down with Eden Carpenter, a 6/2 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the Left Angle Cross of Duality. Eden’s journey into Human Design began when she was a 20-year-old military wife and college student, and seven years later, she now blends Human Design, Gene Keys, and Rapid Resolution Therapy into her work. Eden’s approach brings a playful yet profound twist to shadow work and self-discovery. We chat about the life-changing moment when Eden’s body told her to quit her nursing job- 6 weeks after getting her license! and how she navigated that decision through her Emotional Authority. Eden also shares insights into being a Triple Split, explaining how this influences her decision-making process and how she integrates various aspects of herself. She dives into the challenges of embodying her identity with an undefined G center, and how the energy of her Mercury gates shapes her self-expression. Our conversation explores the evolving Human Design landscape, the importance of variables in learning styles, and the relationship between neurodivergence and Human Design. Eden offers a fresh perspective on finding alignment and embracing individualism, especially in a world that often prioritizes conformity. Timestamps: 00:00:30 – Human Design: Meet Eden Carpenter 00:08:02 – The Changing Human Design Landscape 00:11:06 – Human Design Variables and Our Learning Styles 00:17:39 – When Your Body Says Quit Your Nursing Job 00:21:05 – Eden Explains How Her Triple Split Works with Her Emotional Authority 00:26:48 – The Channel 17-62 00:31:11 – Eden Talks About Her Mercury Gates and Personal Identity 00:38:53 – Going On The Roof: The 6th Line Profile 00:49:48 – Neurodivergency, Human Design, and Individualism 00:58:09 – Showing Up As Yourself: Personal Style 01:02:00 – How to Work with Eden Key Insights: Listening to your body’s signals when it’s time for change Navigating Emotional Awareness as a Triple Split Embracing Individualism through Human Design How neurodivergency and Human Design intersect Finding alignment through radical self-trust Connect with Eden: Website: https://www.edencarpenter.com/ [https://www.edencarpenter.com/] Instagram: @iamedencarpenter [https://www.instagram.com/iamedencarpenter/] If Eden’s story resonated with you and you’re ready to explore your own Human Design, I’d love to support you on your journey. Whether you're starting by running your free Human Design chart, seeking a reading, or mentoring, it starts with a visit to https://kathybochonko.com/ [https://kathybochonko.com/], where you can find out all you need to know about working with me and the ways I can help guide you back to your unique path through radical self-trust. Join my private community to dive deeper into conversations about Human Design: https://facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign [https://facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support]
In this episode of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Vickie Dickson, a 2/4 Emotional Manifesting Generator, known as the "Business Whisperer." With 30 years of entrepreneurial experience, Vickie has built several businesses to multiple six-figure success, and today she shares how Human Design has transformed her approach to life and business. We chat about the challenges she faced embracing her emotional authority, particularly coming from a GenX background where emotions weren’t often expressed. Vickie talks candidly about how her early Human Design readings didn’t provide the insight she needed and how that experience shaped her approach to giving readings now. We dive into the nuance of Vickie’s unique design, including her defined 48/16 channel and quad-right variables, and how these have influenced her content creation and communication style. We also explore Vickie’s transition from Facebook to Instagram in 2020, as well as the deeper purpose behind her program, "Content by Design." Vickie is passionate about helping people create aligned content and embrace passive learning in a world that often emphasizes action and results. Timestamps: 00:00:26 – Meet the Business Whisperer, Vickie Dickson 00:04:16 – Vickie’s Experience as a GenX-er with Emotional Authority 00:13:28 – The Importance of Nuance in Human Design Readings 00:19:12 – Quad-Right, Trust, and Passive Learning 00:30:43 – Vickie’s Path to Aligned Content Creation by Design 00:36:30 – Releasing Attachment to Results and the 41-30 Channel 00:39:43 – Vickie’s Unjaded Podcast and Her Love of Words 00:48:02 – Understanding the Chart as a Tool with Many Layers 00:53:01 – How Splits Impact Us 00:57:33 – Why Vickie Left Facebook in 2020 01:06:50 – Vickie’s Content by Design Program 01:08:39 – Conclusion Key Insights: Human Design is the ultimate tool to reconnect with yourself Navigating emotional authority as a GenX-er How the world can chip away at us, and the courage it takes to step out of that conditioning Aligned content creation and releasing attachment to results To find out about using bodygraph chart software* in your Human Design or Astrology Business please use my affiliate link https://bodygraphchart.com/?via=kathyu [https://bodygraphchart.com/?via=kathyu] *You can get 30% off your first year when you use this link and code kathy2023 Connect with Vickie: Website: VickieDickson.com [https://vickiedickson.com/] Instagram: @Vickie.Dickson [https://www.instagram.com/vickie.dickson/] If Vickie’s story resonated with you and you’re ready to explore your own Human Design, I’d love to support you on your journey. Whether you're starting by running your free Human Design chart, seeking a reading, or mentoring, it begins with a visit to KathyBochonko.com [https://kathybochonko.com/] where you can find out all you need to know about working with me and the ways I can help guide you back to your unique path through radical self-trust. Join my private community to dive deeper into conversations about Human Design: facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign [https://facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign] Connect with me on Instagram: @kathybochonko [https://www.instagram.com/kathybochonko/] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-human-design-stories/support]
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