Footage From Inside a UFO?! | MUFON's 10-Month Investigation | Ep. 74
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In December 2021, John was scrolling through his phone deleting old photos when he found a 43-second video he had no memory of recording. The timestamp said 1:15 a.m. on June 12th, 2021. The footage shows what he believes to be the inside of a craft, multiple entities, and a cell tower at eye level.
This is episode 74, and it's a follow-up to John's first appearance on the show in episode 36 . This time he's joined by Matt Kellison, Florida State Director for MUFON and a retired US Coast Guard Chief Warrant Officer with 30 years of service, 2,000+ flight hours, and certification as an aircraft accident investigator. Matt spent 10 months and hundreds of hours building a full investigative report on John's video. We sat down to go through it.
We get into the cell tower math that places the camera roughly 130 feet from the tower lights instead of a quarter mile away. The "ceiling fan" object skeptics latch onto, and why the frame count rules it out. The entities John describes under regression, including grays, a frog-like being, and a reptilian figure he read as a scientist. The unexplained physics inside the craft. The metadata review that found no tampering. And what John believes the tall gray meant when it told him he has a job to do.
John is appearing under a pseudonym and his identity is not being shared.
Matt's full report is available in the link below and we encourage you to dig into it yourself.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KueZo1bUGJiNEe9U1cE8XP0qm3bhq0Zi/view?usp=drivesdk
As both guests say throughout this conversation, the science comes first.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
02:27 John's lifetime of experiences
04:13 Finding the video he never recorded
08:00 How the MUFON case started
09:51 The finding that stopped Matt cold
11:01 Recovering memories through regression
14:15 Matt's investigative background and method
16:00 The "ceiling fan" object and why the math rules it out
20:36 Could the craft itself be organic
21:59 The cell tower and the 130-foot calculation
25:35 Metadata, forensic review, and Stephen Lea's analysis
27:50 The frog being
33:48 Frogs in other experiencer accounts
35:53 The reptilian figure
39:52 The five entities and the visual evidence
42:25 Toroidal spin, gravitational lensing, and the physics inside the craft
46:36 Biological robots and the small grays
48:30 The white strip, frozen light, and craft atmosphere
51:12 The woman's voice in the audio
54:08 Disinformation and how to discern what's real
55:17 Why this information is being allowed out now
58:57 The quickening and the missing scientists
01:01:18 What disclosure looks like over the next 10 years
If you have expertise in video or audio analysis, John and Matt are inviting qualified people to examine the footage and the report. Reach out and we'll connect you.
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