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The Nonclinical Podcast

Podcast by Dessi McEntee, MS, DABT

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Getting a drug to the clinic is hard. Understanding the nonclinical science behind it doesn't have to be. The Nonclinical Podcast breaks down toxicology strategy, IND preparation, and nonclinical development for biotech founders, scientists, and anyone who's ever sat in a meeting and wished they understood tox better. Hosted by Dessi McEntee, MS, DABT — a board-certified toxicologist who's been bringing new medicines to the clinic for over 15 years.

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episode TK Profiles: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly artwork

TK Profiles: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

Every animal survived. Body weights stable. No major clinical signs. You're practically popping champagne — and you're about to get an FDA hold. Because buried in the appendices is a TK table that proves your drug never actually made it into the bloodstream. In this episode, we break down toxicokinetics — what it is, why it underpins every dose justification you'll ever make, and what good, bad, and ugly TK profiles actually look like in practice. Key takeaways: * TK is just pharmacokinetics in the context of a toxicology study — Cmax, Tmax, AUC, and T½ are the bridge between the dose you give and the effects you see * Good TK tells a clean, cohesive story: consistent exposure, dose-proportional increases, well-timed sampling — it validates your NOAEL and supports your IND * Bad TK doesn't fall apart completely, but introduces enough uncertainty to make interpretation tricky — inconsistent exposure, non-linear AUC increases, and exposure overlap between dose groups * Ugly TK undermines the entire study — no systemic exposure at high dose, formulation failure, unexpected accumulation — and can force you to repeat the study entirely * TK is not a supporting actor. It's part of the main story. Review it alongside findings, not as an afterthought Links: * Early access — The Complete Guide to Nonclinical Development: https://www.nonclinical.academy/ [https://www.nonclinical.academy/] The Nonclinical is hosted by Dessi McEntee, MS, DABT — board-certified toxicologist and Fractional Head of Toxicology. Subscribe to the newsletter on LinkedIn, take the course at nonclinical.academy, or work with Dessi at toxistrategy.com.

21 May 2026 - 20 min
episode Anatomy of a Bulletproof IND — The Nonclinical Sections Explained artwork

Anatomy of a Bulletproof IND — The Nonclinical Sections Explained

Your IND is rejected before a single human being ever reads it. Not because the science is wrong — because a 10-year-old legacy file was missing a digital tag. In this episode, we break down exactly what goes into the nonclinical sections of an IND, how the 5-module eCTD structure works, and the SEND dataset rules that silently kill submissions before they ever reach a reviewer. Key takeaways: * The IND is organized into 5 modules — and the nonclinical program lives primarily in Module 2 (summaries) and Module 4 (study reports and SEND datasets) * Module 2.4 (Nonclinical Overview) is written last — after the detailed 2.6 summaries are complete — because it summarizes them * Every toxicology study listed in Module 2 must have an associated study report in Module 4, and vice versa — no orphans allowed * SEND datasets are required for almost all tox studies, including nonGLP studies — and a missing SEND dataset triggers automatic rejection before a human reviewer ever sees your data * Even studies run 10 years ago still need at minimum a TS domain to pass validation — age of the study is not an exemption Links: * My course: The Complete Guide to Nonclinical Development, https://www.nonclinical.academy/ [https://www.nonclinical.academy/] * Work with Dessi: toxistrategy.com * Read the full newsletter issue on LinkedIn: https://the-nonclinical.com/ The Nonclinical is hosted by Dessi McEntee, MS, DABT — board-certified toxicologist and Fractional Head of Toxicology. Subscribe to the newsletter on LinkedIn, take the course at nonclinical.academy, or work with Dessi at toxistrategy.com.

2 May 2026 - 19 min
episode NAMs: The Promise, the Gap, and the Cold Hard Truth artwork

NAMs: The Promise, the Gap, and the Cold Hard Truth

Everyone in drug development is talking about New Approach Methodologies — AI, organ-on-a-chip, virtual control animals, in silico modeling. The vision is compelling: fewer animals, faster timelines, better translational data. But where are we actually? In this episode, we cut through the hype and take an honest look at where NAMs stand in nonclinical toxicology today, why the hardest part of the pipeline has been the slowest to change, and what it would actually take to get there. Key takeaways: * NAMs are advancing rapidly on either side of nonclinical safety — ADME, in vitro screening, computational modeling — but the GLP tox studies that actually get you to IND have been the slowest to change * The reason is structural: IND-enabling tox studies are the most expensive, most time-sensitive, and most risk-laden studies in the program — most companies won't experiment there * The silo problem is real: regulatory safety decisions are made by comparing data within a single study, which makes integrating external datasets architecturally difficult * Virtual control animals (Charles River/Sanofi) are one of the only dedicated computational solutions in nonclinical toxicology — and may be proof of concept for what's possible * The FDA is moving in the right direction on NAMs — but most toxicologists would not submit a full IND without GLP animal studies today, and that's not a failure of imagination, it's a responsibility to patients Links: * Check out my course: https://www.nonclinical.academy/ * Data Is Not Strategy on Amazon: https://a.co/d/02xUsV6K [https://a.co/d/02xUsV6K] * Work with Dessi: toxistrategy.com The Nonclinical is hosted by Dessi McEntee, MS, DABT — board-certified toxicologist and Fractional Head of Toxicology. Subscribe to the newsletter on LinkedIn, take the course at nonclinical.academy, or work with Dessi at toxistrategy.com.

24 Apr 2026 - 18 min
episode Data Hormesis: When More Data Makes Things Worse artwork

Data Hormesis: When More Data Makes Things Worse

More data should mean less risk. In nonclinical development, that's not always true. In this episode, we explore the concept of data hormesis — the inflection point where accumulating more data stops reducing uncertainty and starts creating it. If your team is running another study because the last one didn't give you the answer you needed, this episode is for you. Key takeaways: * Data hormesis is the point where more information stops helping and starts obscuring the path forward — just like a drug that's beneficial at low doses and toxic at high ones * Early in development, data reduce uncertainty. Beyond a certain point, signals compete for attention rather than converging toward resolution * When decisions aren't defined early, data accumulation quietly becomes a substitute for judgment rather than a tool to support it * The patterns are recognizable: equivocal findings trigger rework instead of interpretation, borderline results lead to more studies without clarity on what would actually change * Programs that move efficiently to IND aren't the ones with the most data — they're the ones that decided early which risks are acceptable and which questions are worth answering now * Data don't create strategy. They make strategy visible. Links: * Data Is Not Strategy on Amazon: https://a.co/d/02xUsV6K [https://a.co/d/02xUsV6K] * Work with Dessi: www.toxistrategy.com The Nonclinical is hosted by Dessi McEntee, MS, DABT — board-certified toxicologist and Fractional Head of Toxicology. Subscribe to the newsletter on LinkedIn, take the course at nonclinical.academy, or work with Dessi at toxistrategy.com.

16 Apr 2026 - 9 min
episode "No Major Findings" — The Most Dangerous Phrase in Nonclinical artwork

"No Major Findings" — The Most Dangerous Phrase in Nonclinical

"No major findings." Three words that instantly lower the blood pressure of every executive in the room — and sometimes, quietly derail a program. In this episode, we unpack why a clean toxicology study can still leave your IND dangerously exposed, what teams consistently get wrong when they see no major findings, and why the absence of a finding is never the end of interpretation — it's where interpretation has to begin. Key takeaways: * "No major findings" describes what was not observed — it is not an interpretation of what the study resolved * A clean study still leaves critical questions open: how close was exposure to the clinical range? What assumptions are now baked in about escalation? * Once "no major findings" enters the conversation, behavior changes — dose rationales harden, exposure assumptions stop being tested, follow-on studies are designed from reassurance instead of uncertainty * The consequence doesn't show up in nonclinical — it shows up at IND when you're asked to justify decisions you thought were already made * Strong programs use clean studies as an opportunity to do more thinking, not less — documenting assumptions, defining boundaries, and stating explicitly what would change the program's direction Links: * Data Is Not Strategy on Amazon: https://a.co/d/02xUsV6K [https://a.co/d/02xUsV6K] * Work with Dessi: https://www.toxistrategy.com/ The Nonclinical is hosted by Dessi McEntee, MS, DABT — board-certified toxicologist and Fractional Head of Toxicology. Subscribe to the newsletter on LinkedIn, take the course at nonclinical.academy, or work with Dessi at toxistrategy.com.

7 Apr 2026 - 17 min
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