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Wrestling Darkness

Podcast by Eric Byler

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How did the lowest standards for accuracy and authenticity, like those of professional wrestling, become the standards for cable news, politics, and the U.S. federal government? World leading scholars and historians offer insights and clues in this "cultural forensics" investigation into how professional wrestling and its imitators transformed media, and thus all aspects of American life that depend on media. Wrestling Darkness (available with video via https://ericbyler.substack.com) begins with cultural shift that began with the runaway success of the World Wrestling Foundation (WWF) in the 1980s. Wrestling's engrossing approach to melodrama — reflecting current political conflicts with scripted scenes and violent choreography prescribing good guys, bad guys and avenues for fan participation — was then emulated by the Fox News channel, countless reality TV programs, and TV talk shows, also with meteoric success. Social media platforms have since deployed addictive algorithms that exploit social and cultural insecurities, turning thousands of influencers into wrestlers with more (or sometimes less) clothing. Artificial intelligence (AI) now generates artificial "content" further compounds deep divisions and spreads conspiracy theories that weaken our country, our culture, and our democracy. Cultural literacy in 2025 requires a basic understanding of wrestling, its parlance, and its history. It helps explain how we became the society we are, and provides insights and guidance for those who wish to change it. Every American, even those who have never seen professional wrestling, is living in the world that wrestling made possible. ericbyler.substack.com

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17 episodes

episode The truth about Hulk Hogan — Episode 12 artwork

The truth about Hulk Hogan — Episode 12

The most famous and emblematic American hero of his time, he defended us against the offenses of foreigners, fairies, and egoists. He abused illegal steroids, but denied it so he could be a good role model for generations of children for whom he recommended more traditional vitamins. Behind the scenes, he ratted out his fellow wrestlers as they sought healthcare and labor protections from a boss who exploited them. Disgraced and erased after leaked audio of his bigoted remarks surfaced in 2015, he was later redeemed and reclaimed, as attitudes shifted to make room for bigotry, even in our heroes. Hulk Hogan died of heart failure on July 24, 2025. Now that his family, his friends, and his millions of fans have had time to mourn, we feel it is our responsibility to talk about Hulk Hogan, less as an action figure, and more as an historical figure. Somebody had to. To help me, I’ve invited back media critic and wrestling fan Sarah Kurchak [https://www.patreon.com/posts/neo-enhancement-138130874?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email] and wrestling’s world-leading scholar, Dr. Sharon Mazer [https://academics.aut.ac.nz/sharon.mazer]. Sarah joined us from Toronto and Sarah from New Zealand, where she had been in high demand as an interviewee on the day of Hogan’s demise. Early on, we threw off the thoughtless reverence that accompanied such early reports, while embracing nostalgia and compassion for a man who was a hero of mine three decades ago. When Sharon suggested that he died knowing his actions and his words had alienated the majority of the wrestling world, I genuinely felt sorry for him, as you can hear and/or see. The most relevant previous episode of Wrestling Darkness, and all of the others, are listed below with hyperlinks. Ep. 5: Why wrestling fans boo Hulk Hogan [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/wrestling-darkness-5-the-netflix] Boos and screams of “Nobody cares!” and “f***ing b******t!” drowned out Hulk Hogan’s pitch for his homophobic beer brand. Why are today’s wrestling fans so sick of yesterday’s hero, and what might it mean for America’s future? Read full story [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/wrestling-darkness-5-the-netflix] To support Wrestling Darkness and other content on the Eric Byler Substack feed, please subscribe or make a tax deductible donation [https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/YBTY2TJUNCKBY]. Episode 2 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/episode-2-a-careening-path-to-hell?r=dc6b] — Wrestling Has Infected Everything In which we trace wrestling’s important impact on entertainment, cable news, culture, and politics in the U.S., as well as the psychology of fandom, and the appetite for Mr. Trump’s carnival of fascism. Episode 3 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/episode-3-hate-spreads?r=dc6b] — How to Please a Demigod In which we speak to two Australian university students who posed as MAGA fans in order to interview Trump supporters and attend one of Mr. Trump’s political rallies. Episode 4 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/age-of-the-fantasist-wrestling-darkness?r=dc6b] — Age of the Fantasist In which Prof. Larry Lessig [https://lessig.medium.com/] explains the impact of the algorithms that govern social media, and how a pro-wrestling standard for authenticity has impacted social media, and thereby politics and culture. Episode 5 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/wrestling-darkness-5-the-netflix?r=dc6b] — Why Wrestling Fans Boo Hulk Hogan In which wrestling experts Sharon Mazer and Sarah Kurchak [https://www.patreon.com/posts/neo-enhancement-138130874?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email] offer a closer analysis of professional wrestling in its current incarnation. Episode 6 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/wrestling-darkness-returns-the-stubborn?r=dc6b] — The Stubborn Illusion of the Theatrical Wrestling experts Sharon and Sarah comment on the fiasco in the Oval Office starring President Trump and President Zzelenskyy, then predict the future of Trump’s America, including, correctly, the break with Elon Musk and Mr. Trump. Episode 7 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/sins-of-the-algorithmic-curator?r=dc6b] — Sins of the Algorithmic Curator Follows on from Episode 4 and the impact of algorithms and social media technology with author and expert Renee DiResta [https://substack.com/profile/320897-renee-diresta] Episode 8 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/deep-fake-porn-crowdsourced-sexual?r=dc6b] — Virtual Manhood, Virtual Rape Connects back to “Woman Hating” and it’s most sinister manifestations online, including death threats, rape threats and “Deep Fake Porn” targeting outspoken women, with author and expert Nina Jankowicz [https://substack.com/profile/1401421-nina-jankowicz]. Episode 9 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/this-molten-thing-about-interracial?r=dc6b] This Molten Thing About Interracial Sex The intersection of race, sex, and politics in America with historian Tim Tyson, focusing on his bestselling books “The Blood of Emmitt Till” and “Blood Done Sign My Name.” Episode 10 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/arguing-about-racism-is-pointless?r=dc6b] and Episode 11 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/trumps-genocide-fable-inspires-mockery?r=dc6b] White Genocide, Black Fatigue Two-part interview with author and political theorist Sisonke Msimang [https://substack.com/profile/4868797-sisonke-msimang] about South Africa and the United States. Episode 10 focuses on her memoir, “Always Another Country.” Episode 11 debunks President Trump’s fable about a “white genocide” in South Africa. Get full access to Wrestling Darkness at ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe [https://ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

28 Sep 2025 - 45 min
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White genocide, Black fatigue — Ep.11

In part 1 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/arguing-about-racism-is-pointless] of my interview with Sisonke Msimang, I brought up the phenomenon of “Black fatigue” by telling her a story about a white man who had attended a Black Lives Matter rally during the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. After the police shot him with a rubber bullet, he decided he would no longer attend such rallies. From there, Sisonke and I agreed upon a basic definition of “Black fatigue” — the expression of annoyance or exhaustion with the awareness and/or attempts to address the legacy of white supremacy. Confronting the past and the present in an honest manner can make people feel sad, ashamed, and uncomfortable. It’s understandable.The flip side of “Black fatigue” is the grotesque overinflation of white victimization and grievance. There is perhaps no better example than President Donald Trump’s “white genocide” fable, which has become a foundation of U.S. foreign policy despite the fact that is fabricated for the purpose of winning a land policy dispute. Roots The “white genocide” narrative has roots in the pre-Apartheid, British colonial era of South Africa. In fact, as Sisonke says, it was instrumental in the political campaign that installed the Apartheid regime in 1948. Today’s incarnation of the white genocide fable is the project of Kallie Kriel and Ernst Roets, two white South African activists of Dutch ancestry (Afrikaners) who have found allies among American white nationalists such as Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, and Charlie Kirk. Their performances on podcasts and other mediums have captivated President Trump ever since his previous administration. But this time around, Trump isn’t just watching the wrestlers in the ring; he has joined them. Foggy insinuations about “terrible things” soon grew to accusations of genocide in the Oval Office, and in between, the United States expelled the South African ambassador Ebrahim Rasool. (Elaborate lies spewed at campaign rallies or spread on social media are par for the course in Trump’s America. But when an unfounded conspiracy theory becomes a state-sponsored soap opera, and that soap opera becomes the basis for U.S. foreign policy, that really should be some sort of red alert. But that is not our purpose here.) While the general public in South Africa has responded with flippancy and laughter, the political class and the business community have failed to see the humor. As Sisonke Msimang writes [https://theintercept.com/2025/05/21/south-africa-trump-afriforum-white-refugees/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletter] for The Intercept: At first, the nation was furious with the Afrikaner organizations. The executive order was strongly worded and threatened sanctions. South Africans across all race groups criticized Kriel and Roets for convincing a foreign government to collectively punish the entire country over falsehoods. They were accused of peddling lies and disinformation and called traitors, [https://www.citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/politics/mashaba-white-south-africans-with-evidence-genocide/] as the nation worried that the U.S. would impose sanctions. Even AgriSA, a group that specifically represents the interests of farmers and has historically been dominated by Afrikaners, said “claims linking farm murders to the signing of the [Land Expropriation] act are baseless and irresponsible.” As the anger mounted, AfriForum and Solidarity held a press conference in which they tried to distance themselves from Trump’s order. With his tail between his legs, Kriel backtracked on his claims of a white genocide. He has gone on to turn down Trump’s offer of asylum, insisting he was a patriotic South African who wanted to reaffirm [https://iol.co.za/news/politics/2025-05-13-i-am-staying-afriforums-kallie-kriel-says-afrikaners-cannot-survive-in-us-as-a-cultural-community/] “our commitment, our recommitment, to the country and all its people.” Catching up with Mr. Trump’s wrestling show On Feb 2, 2025, President Trump announced that South Africa is “under investigation.” A reporter had asked him why he posted to social media that the U.S. would suspend aid to South Africa. What was the offense? That’s when Trump stumbled on the fateful phrase, “Terrible things are happening in South Africa.” These seven words would inspire waves of mockery, defiance, and interracial fellowship, as South Africans of all races posted videos and memes depicting kissing, dancing, and fully integrated, harmonious daily life as sarcastic examples of “terrible things.” But Mr. Trump wasn’t finished. His executive order five days later proclaimed that the U.S. would no longer provide foreign aid or assistance to South Africa, and it established a refugee program for the white people in South Africa “who are victims of unjust racial discrimination” (meanwhile, legitimate refugee programs that bring nonwhite people to the United States had been indefinitely suspended). By the time South African President Cyril Ramaphosa sat down in the Oval Office on May 21, 2025, Mr. Trump had prepared a stack of web clippings and a video montage that he thought would expose white genocide, embarrass Ramaphosa, and shock the world. Journalists quickly fact-checked Trump’s presentation and found jaw dropping mistakes, such as photographs of events that did not take place in South Africa, and the inclusion of white crosses arranged for a political demonstration which Mr. Trump had mistaken for a mass grave for thousands of murdered white people. Notes: * Click here [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/arguing-about-racism-is-pointless] for part 1 of this conversation, which focuses on Sisonke’s acclaimed memoir, Always Another Country. * During this episodes, we discuss Sisonke’s article, How Trump’s Embrace of Afrikaner “Refugees” Became a Joke in South Africa [https://theintercept.com/2025/05/21/south-africa-trump-afriforum-white-refugees/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletter]. You might also read On Trump and the invention of white victims in South Africa [https://sisonkemsimang.substack.com/p/on-trump-and-the-invention-of-white], which she published on Substack. * During this conversation, I referenced Episode 10 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/this-molten-thing-about-interracial] of Wrestling Darkness as I compared South African Apartheid to the Jim Crow Era in the United States. To support Wrestling Darkness, please become a subscriber (free or paid) and/or make a tax deductible donation [https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/YBTY2TJUNCKBY]. Get full access to Wrestling Darkness at ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe [https://ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

19 Jun 2025 - 33 min
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Black fatigue, White genocide — Ep.10

Attempts to address racism are fruitless unless we find paths that lead to healing. This is one of many epiphanies I found in reading Sisonke Msimang [https://sisonkemsimang.substack.com/]’s acclaimed memoir, Always Another Country. We talked at length about South Africa and the United States, our two, sister nations each struggling to free themselves from caste systems that date back to colonial times. The emotional heart of Always Another Country is in South Africa, but Sisonke’s revolutionary father and accountant mother raised their three daughters in exile during Apartheid. Born in Zambia, Sisonke also grew up in Canada and Kenya before attending university in the United States. After the fall of Apartheid, Sisonke “returned” to a country she had not yet seen. She engaged in suburban turf battles with white South Africans during the historic presidency of Nelson Mandela, and through them, she learned lessons about herself and her country that are germane to the challenges we now face in the United States. In reflecting on her efforts and encounters in South Africa and in North America, she concludes that once we have created a caste system, it’s difficult to replace it or even change it very much. Rifts created by race and class, she finds, should not supersede our moral responsibility to one another as human beings. She writes that “decisions I make, even the small ones, like extending a hand in friendship, will make a difference in the long run.” In both the memoir and our chat, Sisonke holds herself accountable for wielding power and privilege not unlike that which had been reserved for whites in South Africa not so long ago. In part two [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/trumps-genocide-fable-inspires-mockery] of our conversation, I ask Sisonke if there is a “grain of truth” in President Trump’s assertion that there is a “white genocide” in South Africa. To support Wrestling Darkness, please become a subscriber (free or paid) and/or make a tax deductible donation [https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/YBTY2TJUNCKBY]. NOTES: * This episode was recorded before Mr. Trump sent the U.S. military to suppress immigration protests in Los Angeles. * I searched far and wide to find the right guest to follow episode 9 [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/this-molten-thing-about-interracial] which also discusses race and racism. Of all places, I located Sisonke in Australia, a complete coincidence (I recently returned to the U.S. after six years Down Under). * Rev. Dr. William Barber II [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/remarks-prior-to-arrest-at-the-us] is mentioned in the second half of this episode. The interview clip I included is from a work-in-progress documentary called Blood Kin. * The film I mentioned that begins with “Learn how to speak English!” is called 9500 Liberty can be seen here [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/bonus-episode-9500-liberty-2009]. Get full access to Wrestling Darkness at ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe [https://ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

11 Jun 2025 - 42 min
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Remarks prior to arrest at the U.S. Capitol by Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

On the evening of April 2nd, 2013, Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II proposed what would become the Moral Monday movement [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHvJGjPLyxc&list=PL-3rkJCyh1boH9TqPqMg8-CAsUIOaHH9I&index=6] to an emergency gathering at a North Carolina church. Within three years, they had taken down a governor and transformed the national conversation about the role of morality in civic life.Today, Rev. Barber faces the challenge of his life as the leader of the Repairers of the Breach [https://breachrepairers.org/] movement, which is organizing civil disobedience actions at the U.S. Capitol on the first Monday of each month this summer.“This sacred action is a bold response to an immoral budget and unjust policies that harm the poor, women, children, and workers,” he writes [https://breachrepairers.org/get-involved/events/moral-mondays-in-dc/]. “Grounded in Micah 6:8 and the prophetic traditions of justice and mercy, we will stand together to say No to oppression and Yes to love, justice, and the sacred dignity of all. Sign up now and declare: ‘We will not be silent anymore.’” Get full access to Wrestling Darkness at ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe [https://ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

3 Jun 2025 - 21 min
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This molten thing about interracial sex — Ep.9

“This molten thing about interracial sex” was always at the core of fights about integration and equality, explains historian and author Dr. Timothy B. Tyson. “The Southern Rape Complex” fueled a century of hate crimes & white dominance of our political process. But this racist lie and covenant was gradually vacated by white women, and its simmering rage now targets women in general, as well as nonwhite men. The ritual of sexually charged political violence echoes throughout this episode as it does throughout American history, as it continues to deform our psyche and our culture. The historical roots of today’s technology-driven, crowdsourced abuse of women online — the subject of a previous episode [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/deep-fake-porn-crowdsourced-sexual] of Wrestling Darkness — can be traced back to the waves of domestic terrorism that ended Reconstruction. History catches up with us Tim Tyson is a dear friend of mine. He taught me to like whisky, something I never would have expected, honestly. And, he showed me that a loving and moral man can love his culture and his country without being blind to its sins. This episode is, on one level, two friends catching up after a period of separation caused by my six years as a family man living in Australia. But this friend happens to have written two New York Times best-selling books, the first of which was impelled by his confusion and pain during a “late-model lynching” that took place during his childhood. The resulting book, Blood Done Sign My Name [https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/blood-done-sign-my-name-timothy-b-tyson/1100617948], lured one of the vanishing ghosts of the Jim Crow Era to come out of hiding. After reading it, she summoned Tim to her home for a private confession about the most infamous hate crime in American history, the murder of Emmett Till. Tim wasn’t planning on writing a book about the Till case. But Carolyn Bryant — the woman who accused Till of having sexually harassed and touched her at the family store — had given him the only two interviews she had granted in the five decades since Till’s death. And she had entrusted him with the pages of her unfinished memoir, which he agreed to one day furnish to the appropriate historical archive, but until then keep under wraps. He spent the next seven years researching the case. When The Blood of Emmett Till [https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Blood-of-Emmett-Till/Timothy-B-Tyson/9781476714851] was published in 2017, Tim was contacted by the Mississippi Attorney General and the FBI. Under subpoena, he turned over all his research materials, including the unfinished memoir for a renewed investigation, that could potentially charge Carolyn Bryant with a crime. We discuss this during the episode, but the bulk of it is devoted to the myth of “the Black Beast Rapist” which was engineering by politicians and media moguls to incite the wave of terrorism that violently overthrew the democracies of each of the former Confederate states between 1875 and 1898 — and how this evil but ingenious narrative echoes in this, the era of Trumpism. Watch all episodes of Wrestling Darkness on Substack [https://ericbyler.substack.com/] and YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gojae5-vn8&list=PL-3rkJCyh1bol-UxC89huJtfu12BpdTkB&index=2], and hear them on all the usual podcast apps such as Apple Podcast [https://apple.co/3BNwlG9] and Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2CZtbjqG9RA4FK4jsYy9sa]. Tim Tyson appears in The Headless Klansman of Selma [https://ericbyler.substack.com/p/watch-the-headless-klansman-of-selma], a short film I co-directed with Annabel Park. Get full access to Wrestling Darkness at ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe [https://ericbyler.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

29 Apr 2025 - 44 min
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