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Your Next Big Thing

Podcast by Neil Metzler, Founder @ Your Next Big Thing Coaching

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Health & personal development

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About Your Next Big Thing

Your Next Big Thing shares inspiring stories of senior professionals making big changes to find more satisfaction from work and happiness from life. Host Neil Metzler (Founder, Principal at Cloud Champions Coaching) welcomes each guest to share why they made this difficult change, how they built a bridge, and what they learned. Our three messages are: 1) Careers are no longer linear. 2) You’re not in this alone 3) There’s a human underneath that armor. Join us to feel inspired, learn something new and connect!

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15 episodes

episode Yosemite Search & Rescue to Resilient Mindset Coach | Josie McKee artwork

Yosemite Search & Rescue to Resilient Mindset Coach | Josie McKee

Josie McKee is the Founder of Mind Athlete and Director, Operations & Communications at Responder Alliance. In this episode, we talked about her triumphs, setbacks and growth in high-pressure teams, including Yosemite National Park search and rescue (El Capitan!).  Josie's experience setting records as a high performance athlete led her to found Mind Athlete, and innovative mindset coaching practice helping top performers reconnect with the joy of the challenge.  Josie lives in Lander, Wyoming and continues to train search and rescue teams. Connect and follow her work: https://www.instagram.com/josie_mckee_/ [https://www.instagram.com/josie_mckee_/] https://mindathletetraining.com/ [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWJqSUxSX2VCWEMzTEV3Uk16NmtnQ0JUbDdUQXxBQ3Jtc0tuSWFmZXEtdkpNNmJlSHNlMTV1TDcwenBMWnZTMHdVSGdlc2NJdjdIYkF2c2pNMXNySWQ5SXFPeFFxZlpOQW44S1NBZkt4R3FkanZORFNFZFhoblJYVm5BZTRPUjVJZWdmZFBUX01XdHVzRlFIVENQTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fmindathletetraining.com%2F&v=QGyEJAoCMZg] responderalliance.com [https://www.responderalliance.com] (outstanding resources for first responders, wilderness EMT and all those who serve)

17 Jun 2025 - 33 min
episode Opera to CTO | Sarah Polan artwork

Opera to CTO | Sarah Polan

Sarah Polan (Field CTO, Principal Director) completed a major career reinvention from opera singer to IT leadership. Early on, Sarah leveraged a bootcamp and built a bridge into IT by delivering a Novel Project beyond the initial scope of her role.  Sarah powered forward when she realized her structured mindset from classical music could translate to writing code. Step by step, Sarah added competencies in DevSecOps, management and organizational leadership, including a CTO program from MIT. She became Credible, Capable and Visible in her new field, excelling at Red Hat, HashiCorp and ABN AMRO bank. Follow her work: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-polan/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-polan/] Sarah has two daughters in middle school and is passionate about increasing access to skills and knowledge with organizations like NewTechKids [https://newtechkids.com/en/]. Hear Sarah speak with Deborah Carter: https://www.hashicorp.com/ko/blog/women-in-tech-podcast-transforming-tech-education [https://www.hashicorp.com/ko/blog/women-in-tech-podcast-transforming-tech-education] 3 Takeaways (NotebookLM): Acknowledge the emotional aspect of career change. Sarah's decision to retire from opera after 5 years, despite extensive studies and it being a passion, involved a significant emotional process. She describes it as a "major career pivot" where the previous career was her identity. Making the decision to walk away or change life so drastically involves a "certain amount of grieving" and understanding that you have to let it go, which is not easy. Identify transferable skills and seek practical application opportunities.... Sarah realised her love for problem-solving could be applied in different contexts, whether business or life problems. She also found a connection between classical music training (patterns, strict rules) and computer code (bits of code, similar mental process), which helped her understand how her skills could be leveraged. She then leveraged a "novel project" at her HR job, which required language skills but also presented an opportunity to solve a data entry problem using VBA and then exploring Python, which made her "hungry to learn more" and was a "catalyst" for her career shift into IT. Develop human skills and understand organisational dynamics. Excelling in senior leadership roles, particularly in a Field CTO position, involves understanding the business dials (topline, bottomline, sales operations). Crucially, it also involves understanding how people play into building robust systems (sociotechnical engineering). This includes understanding team dynamics, such as the impact of team size on trust and agility.  Furthermore, personal values like integrity, trust (which is bilateral), and kindness are essential for leadership. Sarah believes human skills (like talking to people, manners) are going to be increasingly important for navigating the future of work, potentially more so than purely technical skills. Seeking multiple mentors (technical, people, business) can be critical for navigating this complex landscape.

20 May 2025 - 32 min
episode Surface Warfare Officer to General Manager | Benin Allen, US Navy Veteran artwork

Surface Warfare Officer to General Manager | Benin Allen, US Navy Veteran

I learned a lot from speaking with Benin about having the courage to think big about careers and plot my own course.  As the host of this podcast, I'd like to remind us that the west coast tech ecosystem is NOT the ONLY place leaders are born and developed! There's a lot we can learn by expanding our view.   [Leaders] are externally aware, look for new ideas from everywhere, and are not limited by “not invented here.”  -Invent and Simplify, Amazon Leadership Principles [https://www.amazon.jobs/content/en/our-workplace/leadership-principles] 5 Takeaways: Self-leadership and continuous self-improvement are essential for leading others Long-term planning and preparation facilitate successful career change Mentorship and support can significantly ease the transition process Articulating transferable skills to  is crucial Being approachable as a leader fosters a supportive team environment Follow Benin's journey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benin-allen-608782252/ Are you an armed forces service member considering the private sector? Here are key resources Benin mentioned: Register with a career agency: https://www.cameron-brooks.com/alumni/refer-a-friend-or-colleague/ [https://www.cameron-brooks.com/alumni/refer-a-friend-or-colleague/] (list Benin Allen as your referrer!) Read: https://www.amazon.com/PCS-Corporate-America-Military-Interviewing/dp/0940672855

25 Feb 2025 - 31 min
episode Full-time Parenting Unlocks Dream Job | Jeana Jorgensen | Your Next Big Thing artwork

Full-time Parenting Unlocks Dream Job | Jeana Jorgensen | Your Next Big Thing

Can you imagine leaving a Senior Director role at Google to embrace parenting three rambunctious boys full-time? 🤠 In this episode, I speak with Jeana Jorgensen [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanajorgensen/] about promoting herself to Full-Time Mom 💪 The twist: Jeana's decision to live her values and honor her three boys actually attracted her dream job as Corporate VP, Worldwide Learning at Microsoft [https://www.linkedin.com/company/microsoft/] in the age of AI. Jeana continues living her values as Executive Director at the Pepper Foundation, supporting foster kids to have their best possible holiday season. Learn more and give directly here: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7135361935520235521/ [https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7135361935520235521/] Special thanks Women in Cloud [https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-cloud/] and Chaitra Vedullapalli [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaitrav/] for featuring Jeana's leadership story onstage, and Clara Schroeder [https://www.linkedin.com/in/clara-schroeder-ma/] for bringing me along! #lifedesign [https://www.linkedin.com/feed/hashtag/?keywords=lifedesign&highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3AugcPost%3A7275102745324376064] #intentionaldecisions [https://www.linkedin.com/feed/hashtag/?keywords=intentionaldecisions&highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3AugcPost%3A7275102745324376064] #nonlinearcareer [https://www.linkedin.com/feed/hashtag/?keywords=nonlinearcareer&highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3AugcPost%3A7275102745324376064]

18 Dec 2024 - 35 min
episode Performance with purpose in the AI era | Ugur 'Mik' Catmak, Ümit Uludag artwork

Performance with purpose in the AI era | Ugur 'Mik' Catmak, Ümit Uludag

Join us for a special year end wrap-up! My guests are big tech heavyweights, Ugur "Mik" Catmak (Founder, Lean High Performance Academy) and Ümit Uludag (expert on lifelong learning). We talk creating and claiming value in career conversations, self-paced learning, and why we can't forget to decompress! Takeaways: Value Creation: how to create and claim value from your work Personal Branding: strategies for building and leveraging an authentic, meaningful personal brand Developing through disruption: how lifelong learners adapt with AI Follow Mik and Ümit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ugur-mikail-catmak-mik-123226b0/ https://www.instagram.com/ugur_mikail_catmak/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/uemit-uludag/

26 Dec 2023 - 56 min
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