2 Cyber Chicks

The Truth About Critical Infrastructure Security

In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Jax sits down with Angela Haun, Executive Director of the ONE-ISAC and a former FBI Special Agent with over two decades of experience protecting critical infrastructure. Angela brings a rare, real-world perspective on cybersecurity—one where cyber incidents don’t just mean data loss, but physical consequences, national security implications, and economic disruption. She shares what it actually takes to protect the oil and natural gas sector, why information sharing is harder than everyone claims, and where leaders continue to underestimate risk. This conversation explores: - Why cyber threats to critical infrastructure are fundamentally different - The realities of information sharing across highly regulated industries - How trust is built and broken between private industry and government - Why boards still struggle to understand cyber risk in physical terms - The uncomfortable truths leaders need to hear about preparedness and accountability If you care about cybersecurity beyond buzzwords where cyber meets physical, economic, and national security this episode is essential listening. Connect with Angela: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-haun [https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-haun] Organization Website: https://www.oneisac.org [https://www.oneisac.org] ========================= Connect with 2 Cyber Chicks: LinkedIn: 2 Cyber Chicks Podcast [https://www.linkedin.com/company/2cyberchicks] Email us: 2CyberChicks@gmail.com [2CyberChicks@gmail.com] Jax Scott, Founder, @OutpostGray [https://youtube.com/@outpostgray] - Jax on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax [https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax] - YouTube: Outpost Gray [https://www.youtube.com/@OutpostGray] - Twitter/X: @outpostgray [https://x.com/outpostgray] - Website: iamjax.me [https://iamjax.me/] Erika McDuffie, Managing Principal, Coalfire Systems - Erika on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb [https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb] #2cyberchicks ========================= Learn more about our Season Sponsor @ThreatLocker [https://www.threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks] Stop ransomware without the hassle. Allow what you need and block the rest with ThreatLocker Zero Trust Platform — simple to deploy, simple to manage. Learn more at https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks [https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks]. ========================= All the ways to connect with @SimplyCyber [https://youtube.com/@simplycyber] https://SimplyCyber.io/Socials [https://simplycyber.io/Socials]

AI Is Quietly Rejecting You at 1:50 a.m. and The Brutal Truth About AI Hiring

In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Jax and guest co-host Tasha Denose sit down with Ruby Murphy, a technical recruiter known for her sharp boundaries, zero tolerance for nonsense, and deep expertise hiring across cybersecurity and engineering. Ruby exposes what’s actually broken in tech and security hiring from AI-driven résumé black boxes to tone-deaf hiring practices that burn out candidates and recruiters alike. The conversation explores: - The recent New York Times lawsuit challenging AI “black box” hiring decisions - Whether AI is making hiring fairer—or just more opaque - Why candidates are getting rejected with no feedback and what recruiters see behind the scenes - How to stand out professionally without playing performative LinkedIn games - The hiring practices Ruby would happily burn down—and what should replace them Ready for something blunt, human, and long overdue? If you’re a job seeker, hiring manager, or leader relying on AI to “scale” hiring - this conversation might make you uncomfortable. And that’s the point. Connect with Ruby: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linkedwithruby [https://www.linkedin.com/in/linkedwithruby] Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rubysrecruiting [https://twitter.com/rubysrecruiting] Company: https://hamptonnorth.com [https://hamptonnorth.com] News Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/business/ai-hiring-tools-lawsuit-eightfold-fcra.html [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/business/ai-hiring-tools-lawsuit-eightfold-fcra.html] ========================= Connect with 2 Cyber Chicks: LinkedIn: 2 Cyber Chicks Podcast [https://www.linkedin.com/company/2cyberchicks] Email us: 2CyberChicks@gmail.com [2CyberChicks@gmail.com] Jax Scott, Founder, @OutpostGray [https://youtube.com/@outpostgray] - Jax on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax [https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax] - YouTube: Outpost Gray [https://www.youtube.com/@OutpostGray] - Twitter/X: @outpostgray [https://x.com/outpostgray] - Website: iamjax.me [https://iamjax.me/] Erika McDuffie, Managing Principal, Coalfire Systems - Erika on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb [https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb] #2cyberchicks ========================= Learn more about our Season Sponsor @ThreatLocker [https://www.threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks] Stop ransomware without the hassle. Allow what you need and block the rest with ThreatLocker Zero Trust Platform — simple to deploy, simple to manage. Learn more at https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks [https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks]. ========================= All the ways to connect with @SimplyCyber [https://youtube.com/@simplycyber] https://SimplyCyber.io/Socials [https://SimplyCyber.io/Socials]

Authenticity, Neurospicy Leadership & Why Perception Is Reality in Life

In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Jax sits down with Virginia Case, a fractional C-level executive, serial entrepreneur, and go-to-market fixer known for blending psychology, marketing, AI, and no-BS execution. Together, they unpack the tension between authenticity and awareness, why “just being yourself” can sometimes cross into tone-deaf leadership, and how perception truly becomes reality in business, careers, and cybersecurity. Virginia shares her personal journey of publicly owning her ADHD/neurospicy brain, recognizing when she’s masking, and learning how to channel that energy into a renewable leadership advantage instead of burnout. This conversation dives deep into: * Why confidence without awareness can backfire * How leaders and cyber professionals unintentionally sabotage their own narrative * What it really means to “market your cyber self” without feeling fake * The role of perception in hiring, leadership, and influence * How neurodivergent leaders can design success on their own terms If you’re navigating leadership, career growth, or visibility in cybersecurity and want to do it with integrity, self-awareness, and impact this episode is for you. Connect with Virginia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/virginiastewartcase [https://www.linkedin.com/in/virginiastewartcase] Check out Virginia's website: https://www.stratac.com [https://www.stratac.com] ========================= Connect with 2 Cyber Chicks: LinkedIn: 2 Cyber Chicks Podcast [https://www.linkedin.com/company/2cyberchicks] Email us: 2CyberChicks@gmail.com [2CyberChicks@gmail.com] Jax Scott, Founder, @OutpostGray [https://youtube.com/@outpostgray] - Jax on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax [https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax] - YouTube: Outpost Gray [https://www.youtube.com/@OutpostGray] - Twitter/X: @outpostgray - Website: iamjax.me [https://iamjax.me/] Erika McDuffie, Managing Principal, Coalfire Systems - Erika on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb [https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb] #2cyberchicks ========================= Learn more about our Season Sponsor @ThreatLocker [https://www.threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks] Stop ransomware without the hassle. Allow what you need and block the rest with ThreatLocker Zero Trust Platform — simple to deploy, simple to manage. Learn more at https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks [https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks]. ========================= All the ways to connect with @SimplyCyber [https://youtube.com/@simplycyber]  https://SimplyCyber.io/Socials

Risk, Power, and Influence: What It Really Takes to Lead in Cyber

In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Jax sits down with Tashya Denose, a senior cybersecurity leader, bestselling author, podcaster, and board member of Black Girls in Cyber. Tashya has built her career securing some of the most complex environments, from the Pentagon and the U.S. Secret Service to Capital One, Google, and now Meta, where she works at the intersection of risk, governance, and emerging technology. In this candid conversation, we explore: * Why compliance doesn’t always equal security * How leaders should think about risk across government, finance, and Big Tech * What it takes to influence decisions when security isn’t the loudest voice * The human cost of burnout—and how to build a sustainable career in cyber * Why belonging and community directly impact security outcomes This episode is a must-listen for security leaders, practitioners, and anyone navigating the real-world tension between frameworks, risk, and reality. Connect with Tashya Denose: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tashya-denose-68814765 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tashya-denose-68814765] ========================= Connect with 2 Cyber Chicks: LinkedIn: 2 Cyber Chicks Podcast [https://www.linkedin.com/company/2cyberchicks] Email us: 2CyberChicks@gmail.com [2CyberChicks@gmail.com] Jax Scott, Founder, @OutpostGray [https://youtube.com/@outpostgray] - Jax on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax [https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax] - YouTube: Outpost Gray [https://www.youtube.com/@OutpostGray] - Twitter/X: @outpostgray - Website: iamjax.me [https://iamjax.me/] Erika McDuffie, Managing Principal, Coalfire Systems - Erika on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb [https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb] #2cyberchicks ========================= Learn more about our Season Sponsor @ThreatLocker [https://www.threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks] Stop ransomware without the hassle. Allow what you need and block the rest with ThreatLocker Zero Trust Platform — simple to deploy, simple to manage. Learn more at https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks [https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks]. ========================= All the ways to connect with @SimplyCyber [https://youtube.com/@simplycyber]  https://SimplyCyber.io/Socials

Security Doesn’t Win, Business Does: The Hard Truth About Being a CISO

In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Jax sits down with Angelique Grado, a board director, fractional CISO and CIO, former Air Force officer, and cybersecurity leader for critical infrastructure and global enterprises. Angelique has spent over two decades leading technology and security strategy across Fortune-scale organizations, OT and ICS environments, and safety-critical systems where failure isn’t an option. She’s known for making cybersecurity a business accelerator, not a blocker, helping leaders navigate risk, growth, and complexity with clarity and confidence. In this candid conversation, we explore: - Why businesses increasingly accept cyber risk as long as revenue isn’t impacted - The most misunderstood part of being a CISO and who misunderstands it most - How “aviate, navigate, then communicate” applies to modern cyber leadership - How AI is reshaping the CISO role faster than governance can keep up - What boards and executives still get wrong about cybersecurity risk This episode is a must-listen for CISOs, security leaders, board members, and anyone navigating the tension between business growth and security reality. Learn more about Angelique: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelique-grado-51580516 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelique-grado-51580516] ========================= Connect with 2 Cyber Chicks: LinkedIn: 2 Cyber Chicks Podcast [https://www.linkedin.com/company/2cyberchicks] Email us: 2CyberChicks@gmail.com [2CyberChicks@gmail.com] Jax Scott, Founder, @OutpostGray [https://youtube.com/@outpostgray] - Jax on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax [https://linkedin.com/in/iamjax] - YouTube: Outpost Gray [https://www.youtube.com/@OutpostGray] - Twitter/X: @outpostgray - Website: iamjax.me [https://iamjax.me/] Erika McDuffie, Managing Principal, Coalfire Systems - Erika on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb [https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-mcduffie-767394bb] #2cyberchicks ========================= Learn more about our Season Sponsor @ThreatLocker [https://www.threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks] Stop ransomware without the hassle. Allow what you need and block the rest with ThreatLocker Zero Trust Platform — simple to deploy, simple to manage. Learn more at https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks [https://threatlocker.com/2cyberchicks]. ========================= All the ways to connect with @SimplyCyber [https://youtube.com/@simplycyber]  https://SimplyCyber.io/Socials