#2: Mike Petrow — Our Fractured Selves, Carl Jung, and the Path to an Integrated Self
Mike is an expert in mythology, depth psychology, and religion. He holds a multitude of certifications and degrees including a PhD in psychology, mythology, and religion from Pacifica Graduate Institute [https://www.pacifica.edu/]. Mike is the Director of Formation, Faculty Relations, and Theological Foundations with the Center for Action and Contemplation [https://cac.org/] in Albuquerque, New Mexico, a non-profit founded by Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher, Fr. Richard Rohr [https://cac.org/about/cac-faculty/cac-founder-richard-rohr/]. He has previously worked as a Pastor, a counselor with at-risk youth, and a chaplain in a tiny Times Square theater space. Pete and Mike discuss our fractured selves, ancient wisdom for this modern age, ideas and concepts from Jungian psychology from the famous Swiss Psychoanalyst Carl Jung, and together further explore healing the digital wound.
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Reference links:
Carl Jung: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung]
Enantiodromia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enantiodromia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enantiodromia]
Individuation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuation [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuation]
The Shadow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_(psychology) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_(psychology)]
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