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CTL Financing with Elyssa McMullen of PGIM

1 h 0 min · 6 de abr de 2026
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Elyssa McMullen, Head of Lease and CTL Financing at PGIM, joins the program. As a subset of the net lease industry, credit tenant lease or CTL financings are more structured finance than typical real estate lending. From underlying basics like standard CTL metrics and counterparties – to the esoteric specifics of unique deal construction, Elyssa shares insights and observations on CTL’s past, present, and future. With career lending totals approaching $15 billion over nearly 3 decades at PGIM, McMullen’s master class will benefit market participants of all experience levels. Check out www.netleaseobserver.com for all net lease and sale/leaseback content.

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