123: Part 7/8, Legally Married, Personally Single: A Radical Family Experiment: Designing a Relationship that Works Series

125: We Loved It Enough to Let It End: Andrea & Janelle's Conscious Final Episode

125: We Loved It Enough to Let It End: Andrea & Janelle's Conscious Final Episode This final episode is less a goodbye and more a mic drop on three years of evolution, experimentation, and radical honesty. Andrea and Janelle close out Permission to Be Human NOT because they ran out of things to say—but because the podcast served its purpose, teaching them how to figure out what they want and ask for it. What started as processing relationships in real time became an accidental roadmap for anyone willing to question everything, and a massive return on their own life investment. There's a nod to LVDY, Sophie Howell and We Can Do Hard Things. You'll hear: -Why ending "on a high note" can be a radical act -The arc of the becoming and the gratitude for bravehearts -Why it was never about their way, but an invitation to find yours -The vital shift from external validation to internal alignment -A recap of Seasons' 1-6 -How building a relationship with self is always the first move -About their next big adventures -------------- We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure. You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills. Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues. If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you. With glitter and radical acceptance, Janelle & Andrea. Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/ [https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/] Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY https://www.lvdymusic.com/ [https://www.lvdymusic.com/]

REPEAT: 2: Question Everything, Especially Your Mothers' Advice

REPEAT: 2: Question Everything, Especially Your Mothers' Advice What have you questioned lately? In this episode, we cover how questioning everything--including formats for marriage, religion, birth, parenthood and matching outfits has led to aha moments. You'll even hear some Billy Joel. Some key points in this episode: -A review of our mother's advice! -The power of social conditioning -How questioning your own rules can lead to epiphany Additional resources: * Natalie Goldberg's" Long Quiet Highway" -------------- We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure. You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills. Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues. If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you. With glitter and radical acceptance, Janelle & Andrea. Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/ [https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/] Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY https://www.lvdymusic.com/ [https://www.lvdymusic.com/]

124: Part 8/8, Relationship Death Doulas Talk Repair, Intimacy & Rebirth: Designing a Relationship that Works Series

124: Part 8/8, Relationship Death Doulas Talk Repair, Intimacy & Rebirth: Designing a Relationship that Works Series What if the problem isn't your relationship… it's that you won't let it die? In this episode, Andrea & Janelle interview relationship death doulas Yana Rumi and Cari Caldwell, who don't just "work on" their relationship—they burn it down on purpose. No catastrophe required. Just a willingness to stop pretending, drop the roles, and meet each other again from zero. Truth: most relationships don't fail because of conflict—they suffocate under unspoken agreements, stale identities, and quiet resentment. Like computers, relationships require a defrag and a restart ;-). You'll hear: -About the flatlined nature of "Happily Ever After" -Why you should schedule sex without intercourse expectation -How predictability can be such a cage -Truth: Repair isn't a failure, its a gym where the intimacy muscles get stronger -How jealousy, desire and curiosity are all just sensations Why they're NOT committed to forever, but to each other's fullest expression -The beauty of choosing each other again after brief separation -Validation about the "weight of survival" Learn more at relationshipdeathdoulas.life [https://relationshipdeathdoulas.life/] -------------- We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure. You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills. Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues. If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you. With glitter and radical acceptance, Janelle & Andrea. Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/ [https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/] Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY https://www.lvdymusic.com/ [https://www.lvdymusic.com/]

123: Part 7/8, Legally Married, Personally Single: A Radical Family Experiment: Designing a Relationship that Works Series

123: Part 7/8, Legally Married, Personally Single: A Radical Family Experiment: Designing a Relationship that Works Series In this episode, Andrea and Janelle sit down with Nitsan Mesika, a wilderness therapist and psychedelic practitioner who has spent 25 years legally married to her partner… while both consider themselves single. Instead of divorce, they designed something new: a shared home, separate bedrooms, fluid parenting roles, independent romantic lives, and a fierce commitment to the family rather than a formula. Nitsan's story is a reminder that relationships aren't static agreements — they're living ecosystems. There's a nod to Non Violent Communication. You'll hear: -How she explained it all to her kids -Why Nitsan and her partner don't strive to be the same -The difference between conflict and rupture -When texting is better than talking -How Nitsan parented in her non-traditional setting -Why a relationships don't have to follow norms to be stable, loving, or ethical. -------------- We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure. You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills. Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues. If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you. With glitter and radical acceptance, Janelle & Andrea. Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/ [https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/] Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY https://www.lvdymusic.com/ [https://www.lvdymusic.com/]

122: Part 6/8, Polyamory, Parenting, and the Art of Staying Yourself: Designing a Relationship that Works Series

122: Part 6/8, Polyamory, Parenting, and the Art of Staying Yourself: Designing a Relationship that Works Series What if the real secret to a lasting relationship isn't the structure — monogamy, polyamory, swinging, or anything else — but the willingness to approach with love? In this episode, Andrea and Janelle sit down with John Holle and Katie Wise, a Boulder-based couple married for 17 years who have experimented with nearly every relationship format imaginable. From open play and live-in partners to raising teenagers inside a radically honest household, their story is less about labels and more about curiosity, growth, and choosing each other again and again. It's messy, tender, funny, and surprisingly wise. There's a nod to play therapy, the book "Polysecure", Tamera and the documentary, "The Village of Lovers." You'll hear: -How their childhoods--chaotic divorce and big-time care--impacted their own choices -About the Burning Man that began their foundation -The intense chapter of a household with three adults and two kid -Navigating jealousy, attachment styles, and the myth that one person must meet every nee -Why community, coaching, and conscious conversation have been essential to their marriag -Why the structure matters less than the love residing inside Learn more about John's mediation practice at consciousfamilyfirm.com [http://consciousfamilyfirm.com/]. Katie's band can be found online at Katie Wise + Bhakti Explosion [https://www.bhaktimama.com/] -------------- We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure. You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills. Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues. If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you. With glitter and radical acceptance, Janelle & Andrea. Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/ [https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/] Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY https://www.lvdymusic.com/ [https://www.lvdymusic.com/]