The Elephant and the Teacher
In this episode, Michelle sits down in person with her friend and colleague Stephanie Hardeman — educator, executive coach, and founder of Teton Teams Development — to explore two powerful commitments from The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership: taking 100% personal responsibility and speaking candidly. Together they unpack the "above and below the line" model, examining how fear drives us into reactive, energy-draining patterns — whether we show up as the victim, the villain, or the surprising one — the hero. Stephanie breaks down why heroing others, though it feels generous, can quietly erode confidence and rob people of the at-bats they need to grow. The conversation then turns to the courage it takes to speak candidly — not to convince or explode, but to genuinely connect. Michelle and Stephanie leave listeners with three concrete practices to start noticing their own energy patterns, body signals, and the conversations they've been avoiding. If you've ever wondered why you feel exhausted despite working so hard, this episode will give you a new lens for understanding where your energy is actually going. Stephanie Hardeman with Teton Teams: * INSTAGRAM [https://www.instagram.com/tetonteams] * www.TetonTeams.com [applewebdata://1305E17B-ADD0-47DA-8949-AB52038A7B13/www.tetonteams.com] The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership Book: A New Paradigm for Sustainable Success [https://a.co/d/06m8NOiD] Ask a Question: Have a question for Michelle? Fill out the listener form [Linked Here] [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdWAYAAj5U-n4ecUt0DVb6Ad-D-yu8pHEsVc8ZFyQu3YG2yng/viewform?usp=header]. Support the Podcast: If this episode moved your thinking, please leave a 5-star review and tag @DearMrsRoundy [https://www.instagram.com/dearmrsroundy/]on social media!
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