081: Taking on Fair Play, Decentering Discomfort, & Protecting Your Unicorn Space with Eve Rodsky
It's time to take on Fair Play, Decentering Discomfort, & Protecting Your Unicorn Space with Eve Rodsky.
Listen in as Mel & Michelle welcome the one and only Eve Rodsky into their Unicorn Space.
Eve is a New York Times bestselling author of Fair Play and Find Your Unicorn Space, a Harvard-trained organizational expert, and the founder of the Fair Play Policy Institute. She calls herself "the ghost of your Christmas future" — and after fifteen years of studying the gender division of labor across 27 countries, she has the receipts.
This is the conversation to play back when you're sitting in your car after a hard day, wondering why partnership feels so heavy. Eve goes well beyond the cards: she reframes what "two truths" actually means (spoiler: it's usually not conflict, it's us absorbing someone else's discomfort), explains why an ownership mindset is the real Fair Play formula, and shares the tooth fairy story that we won't stop thinking about. She's funny, fierce, and refuses to let women carry this alone — naming Fair Play as nothing less than the antidote to 2,000 years of conditioning about how women should spend our time.
What stood out:
* The reframe we needed: most "two truths" aren't conflicting — we're just making decisions to spare someone else's discomfort
* Why "get help" was never the answer, and what an ownership mindset (DRI — directly responsible individual) actually looks like at home
* The low-emotion, high-cognition rule that finally makes hard conversations land
* Where resentment quietly lives — in the thank-you notes, the kin-keeping, the cards no one sees you holding
* The tooth fairy email that captured accountability, repair, and trust in one perfect story
* Modeling it forward and her own proof that emotional labor is teachable
* The permission slip we all needed: you're allowed to be unavailable from your roles
This isn't about dividing chores. It's about treating your time like the diamond it is — and refusing to live any other way.
Come take on fair play, decentering discomfort, and protecting your unicorn space with us.
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Want more of Eve? We've got you covered!
* For all things Eve Rodsky, visit her website here [https://www.everodsky.com/].
* To learn more about Fair Play, visit their website at Fair Play Life [https://www.fairplaylife.com/].
* Follow along on Instagram: @everodsky | @fairplaylife
* Ready to dive deeper into Fair Play and Unicorn Space? Shop Eve’s books on Amazon:
* Fair Play: A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live) [https://amzn.to/4wahxsG]
* Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World [https://amzn.to/3QS0oDS]
