Magical Overthinkers

Overthinking About "Healthy" Relationships

45 min · 29. apr. 2026
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What does a healthy relationship actually look like, and who gets to decide? This week, Amanda is joined by relationship expert Dr. Sara Nasserzadeh (@dr.saranasserzadeh [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fdr.saranasserzadeh%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C6a164cb87cf546e49d1f08dea4adf9a5%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639129264324541968%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=y7k8jDu%2F5vii6hBpXTzEQiHcWUrvvsWVCE0ruy491b0%3D&reserved=0]) to overthink "healthy" relationships. Together, they unpack why “healthy” can feel impossible to define, and why a more useful question might be: Does this relationship leave you feeling fulfilled? They explore how many people waste energy trying to fix the wrong things, and Sara breaks down the six ingredients she believes help relationships thrive. From situationships that feel surprisingly safe to whether healthy couples are “boring,” this episode is a grounded spiral about connection, boundaries, and giving yourself permission to believe you deserve the kind of love that feels steady. * Further Reading: Love by Design: 6 ingredients to build a lifetime of love [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flovebydesignbook.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C6a164cb87cf546e49d1f08dea4adf9a5%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639129264324569979%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Sc4wb4DOoOaBTd86f7EjqgZPgSgtF4BokRpyhj%2Fx6zs%3D&reserved=0] by Dr. Sara * Further Viewing: The 6 Essential Ingredients of Loving Relationships [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ted.com%2Ftalks%2Fsara_nasserzadeh_the_6_essential_ingredients_of_loving_relationships&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C6a164cb87cf546e49d1f08dea4adf9a5%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639129264324591179%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=cGm0UGoIrAFcZpy4g5sbBUiAXh9XxYi1WwhgJ3%2FyLr4%3D&reserved=0]  - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers. [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmagicaloverthinkers&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C6a164cb87cf546e49d1f08dea4adf9a5%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639129264324615776%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Nbwv5zD6E%2BGbJncj9l7ANrC3cdOgt8q0QAi%2FpoRilQs%3D&reserved=0] - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Famandamontell.substack.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C6a164cb87cf546e49d1f08dea4adf9a5%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639129264324643655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TBl9T3U%2B7%2Bu3%2F0oTjb%2F6nAQ1dbww%2F9tUJokYVHz%2BKF0%3D&reserved=0]. - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FThe-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking%2FAmanda-Montell%2F9781668007976&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C6a164cb87cf546e49d1f08dea4adf9a5%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639129264324666809%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IT3fUHjlJTvOrz%2FnQcxIbz87zmIIKXD8XOeXUqVbMNU%3D&reserved=0], or listen to the audiobook [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FThe-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking%2FAmanda-Montell%2F9781797175577&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C6a164cb87cf546e49d1f08dea4adf9a5%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639129264324692389%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=iBXazyyXIX3DvrNtMr8AprNf70NDLLv5zvOTc8dH1dI%3D&reserved=0]. Shop plans at https://MINTMOBILE.com/magical [https://MINTMOBILE.com/magical] For 15% off your first order. Go to https://ZENNI.com/PODCAST and use code PODCAST15 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

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Overthinking About Aging

Why are we so afraid of getting older? Is it really about wrinkles... or are we actually afraid of losing our purpose, our identity, and the people we love? This week, Amanda is joined by oncologist, bioethicist, and Eat Your Ice Creamauthor Dr. Ezekiel "Zeke" Emanuel (@drezekielemanuel [https://www.instagram.com/drezekielemanuel/]) to unpack our culture's obsession with staying young. Together, they explore why the wellness industry's promises of longevity miss the point, why curiosity matters more than looking 25 forever, and why some of the happiest, most meaningful years of life may still be ahead of us. They answer listener thought spirals about Botox, becoming "invisible," feeling behind in adulthood, retirement, and whether getting older has to mean becoming less yourself. A hopeful spiral about learning to fear aging a little less... and living a little more. Further Reading: Eat Your Ice Cream [https://bookshop.org/p/books/eat-your-ice-cream-six-simple-rules-for-a-long-and-healthy-life-ezekiel-j-emanuel-md/5e67176bc282cfe8?ean=9781324117537] by Ezekiel J. Emanuel, MD - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers. [https://www.instagram.com/magicaloverthinkers] - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack [https://amandamontell.substack.com/]. - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality [https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking/Amanda-Montell/9781668007976], or listen to the audiobook [https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking/Amanda-Montell/9781797175577]. Thanks to our Sponsors: * Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at ⁠⁠https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical [https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

8. juli 202645 min
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Overthinking About Failure

Why does failure feel so much bigger than it actually is? This week, Amanda is joined by entrepreneur, author, and leadership coach Jane Marie Chen (@janemarie.chen) to spiral about failure: why we're so terrified of it, why we avoid it at all costs, and why it often hurts so much more than the thing that actually happened. Together, they explore perfectionism, rejection, burnout, imposter syndrome, and the childhood experiences that shape our relationship to failure long before we ever encounter it. And what if failure isn't evidence that we're unworthy? What if it's simply the price of catching bigger waves? A reflective spiral about risk, resilience, and learning to love yourself even when things don't go according to plan. Further Reading: Like a Wave We Break by Jane Marie Chen - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers. - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack. - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality, or listen to the audiobook. - If your glasses are overdue for a refresh, now is the time. Use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/3OdtU5X ⁠- Download Whatnot today and get $20 Off and free shipping on your first purchase.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

24. juni 202641 min
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Overthinking About Mommy Issues

No matter how old we get, there’s a decent chance a small part of us is still trying to impress, understand, forgive, rebel against, or be comforted by our mothers. This week, Amanda is joined by writer and editor Ashley Oerman (@ashleyoerman [https://www.instagram.com/ashleyoerman/?hl=en]), author of Motherf*cked, to spiral about one of the most loaded relationships in the human experience: the one between mothers and their children. Together, they unpack the impossible expectations placed on mothers, the ways our earliest relationships shape our adult identities, and why "mommy issues" have become both a punchline and a profound psychological reality. A tender spiral about the stories we spend a lifetime trying to rewrite. Further Reading: Motherf*cked: How to Stop Your Mothers Toxic Drama from Ruining Your Life [https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Motherf*cked/Ashley-Oerman/9781637748619] by Ashley Oerman - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers. [https://www.instagram.com/magicaloverthinkers] - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack [https://amandamontell.substack.com/]. - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality [https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking/Amanda-Montell/9781668007976], or listen to the audiobook [https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking/Amanda-Montell/9781797175577]. Thanks to our Sponsors: * Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at ⁠https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical⁠ [https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical] * Shop plans at ⁠https://MINTMOBILE.com/magical [https://mintmobile.com/magical] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

10. juni 202646 min
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Overthinking About Burnout

When we first aired this episode in 2024, burnout felt like the defining emotional state of modern life. Two years later… honestly, not much has improved. If anything, burnout has shape-shifted. The girlboss hustle era may be less aspirational than it once was, but it’s been replaced by new flavors of exhaustion: constant digital overwhelm, economic anxiety, doomscrolling, and the strange pressure to be “healing” productively at all times. So this week, we’re revisiting Amanda’s conversation with the brilliant Amelia Nagoski (@burnoutbookgroup [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fburnoutbookgroup%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7Ce051d2804f514454050508deb110d5f3%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639142883063301262%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5zxA%2FeCfaVw2ZX%2B1Ni42Mdjnve0cSaQ4VZEoGe1Nr4o%3D&reserved=0]), co-author of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, for a much-needed refresher on what burnout actually is. Together, they unpack what happens when our bodies get stuck in an incomplete stress response cycle, why modern life keeps us there, and what it actually takes to start feeling better. If you’re emotionally fried, physically depleted, or somehow both overstimulated and numb, this one’s for you. We’ll be back in two weeks with a brand new episode. Further Reading: Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.burnoutbook.net%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7Ce051d2804f514454050508deb110d5f3%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639142883063342238%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=x9OmXi6b6ljtyn3eI8FpAItmks6KRnVUK28GQL2gYmk%3D&reserved=0] by Emily Nagoski, PhD, and Amelia Nagoski, DMA - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers. [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmagicaloverthinkers&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7Ce051d2804f514454050508deb110d5f3%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639142883063384329%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=k%2FbIemEK9T5QPiyWs%2Fbw3Va9Slup7UevpRmqpPI0zZ8%3D&reserved=0] - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Famandamontell.substack.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7Ce051d2804f514454050508deb110d5f3%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639142883063411728%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hcWOO5ZsCC21zfjkxujmLMW5fqlHX1g0MlKKywPaLx0%3D&reserved=0]. - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FThe-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking%2FAmanda-Montell%2F9781668007976&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7Ce051d2804f514454050508deb110d5f3%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639142883063438425%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=YCaGTboETJ3H3Sysrc%2B0oGMZfQiBzcXeCnGM56WEgtU%3D&reserved=0], or listen to the audiobook [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FThe-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking%2FAmanda-Montell%2F9781797175577&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7Ce051d2804f514454050508deb110d5f3%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639142883063473390%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=cgSZlS07IRJnNpGkHQqtqbAErnfxObqNInIgdlEcVno%3D&reserved=0]. Thanks to our Sponsors: If your glasses are overdue for a refresh, now is the time. Use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order at ⁠bit.ly/3OdtU5X [http://bit.ly/3OdtU5X] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

27. maj 20261 h 5 min
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Overthinking About Critical Thinking

What does “thinking critically” actually mean and why is everyone so convinced they’re already good at it? This week, Amanda is joined by psychologist and author of Radical Thinking, Peter Lamont to explore how all of our beliefs are shaped by a limited slice of what we notice and how we interpret it, which means disagreement is inevitable. Peter reframes critical thinking as something quieter and more uncomfortable: recognizing the limits of your own perspective and being willing to engage with people who see the world differently. From the role of the internet and social media to why curiosity might matter more than certainty, this episode is a grounded spiral about attention, interpretation, and learning to question your own thinking before anyone else’s. * Further Reading: Radical Thinking: How to See the Bigger Picture [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fswiftpress.com%2Fbook%2Fradical-thinking%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C86c2f2fb789643c260ee08dea6f44a88%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639131765343022591%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4I7N%2BtS1yOhioJfoqo9hIbpx2I6YbsTPqdm4gdNkeBU%3D&reserved=0] by Peter Lamont - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers. [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmagicaloverthinkers&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C86c2f2fb789643c260ee08dea6f44a88%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639131765343044108%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kZNf16gJNri8Uavz9QWtVcTouO9NL37Tfpu%2FWeXdHYU%3D&reserved=0] - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Famandamontell.substack.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C86c2f2fb789643c260ee08dea6f44a88%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639131765343064299%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=X7hQjVBrgtGApvyHAjfE1dc%2B5L9spEyFpjvojeThGDI%3D&reserved=0]. - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FThe-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking%2FAmanda-Montell%2F9781668007976&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C86c2f2fb789643c260ee08dea6f44a88%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639131765343086640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=LJ3yPr43JyUVGUR4GOxoeNkb1Xcd0BCHxlEyMV4W7iI%3D&reserved=0], or listen to the audiobook [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FThe-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking%2FAmanda-Montell%2F9781797175577&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C86c2f2fb789643c260ee08dea6f44a88%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C639131765343105927%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jSUyNjzxM2f0ibyY7pSvA%2BlwmYYp5Toe%2FyCQSgkBO%2Bw%3D&reserved=0]. Thanks to our Sponsors: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical [https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical] If your glasses are overdue for a refresh, now is the time. Use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order at bit.ly/3OdtU5X [http://bit.ly/3OdtU5X] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

13. maj 202640 min