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02. Where Spirits Meet the Cross

20 min · 14. maj 2026
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Welcome to episode two of our series discussing the history of Burmese Christianity (Pearl Dive episode 221)! This series is part of Fuller’s Burma Diaspora Christianity Project led by Dr. Joseph Cheah and Dr. David Moe. Before the cross or the pagoda ever touched the soil of Burma, the land was alive with the whispers of the Nat. In this episode of Pearl Dive, we travel into the heart of the Burma Diaspora Christianity project. Hosts Tim Tseng, Dr. Joseph Cheah, and Dr. David Moe peel back the layers of history to reveal how ancient folk traditions — centered on powerful spirits and sacred landscapes — continue to pulse beneath the surface of modern Burmese American faith. It’s a journey that challenges everything you thought you knew about where “tradition” ends and “religion” begins. We aren’t just talking history; we’re talking identity. By integrating the lived narratives of the Burmese diaspora, this episode uncovers how pre-Buddhist folk religions were never truly erased but were instead woven into the very fabric of Christian life. Whether you’re interested in Asian American theology or the mysterious intersection of unseen forces and organized faith, this conversation offers a priceless pearl of wisdom for a global audience. Get ready to explore the spiritual geography of a people whose faith is as deep and complex as the land they call home. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com [https://fulleraachi.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

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10. The Parish Within the Parish

Welcome to episode 10 of our series discussing the history of Burmese American Christianity (Pearl Dive episode 229)! This series is part of Fuller AACHI’s Burma Diaspora Christianity Project led by Dr. Joseph Cheah and Dr. David Moe. Welcome to episode 10 of The Pearl Dive (Pearl Dive episode 229) brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at Fuller Theological Seminary! In this special installment of our Burmese Diaspora Christianity Project, host Tim Tseng and co-host Dr. Joseph Cheah dive into the inspiring journeys of John Lee and Elizabeth (Liz) Garrick-Law. Born to Chinese parents in Burma, both guests share their profound stories of resilience, grace, and maintaining a vibrant cultural identity in the United States. Liz recounts her life-changing experience at a convent school in Yangon and her family’s steadfast faith through severe medical trials, while John details his transition to American life and the deep-seated spiritual longing that sparked a movement. Together, John and Liz provide a remarkable look at the formation and legacy of the Burmese American Catholic Fellowship (BACF) in the San Francisco Bay Area. Founded in 1995 out of a pressing need for cultural and spiritual support after the passing of John’s father, BACF has grown into a cornerstone for Burmese immigrants and refugees over the last three decades. The episode beautifully explores the “parish within a parish” model at St. Thomas More Church [https://stmchurch.com/] — a stunning mosaic of five distinct ethnic communities—and highlights the vital, ongoing effort to pass down Burmese Catholic traditions, music, and spirituality to the next generation. Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges You are warmly invited to attend the 2026 Our Story, Our Faith (OSOF) Conference: Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges [https://ourstoriesourfaith.org/], taking place August 7–8, 2026 in Indianapolis, IN, and online. 📍Dates: August 7–8, 2026📍In-Person Location: Falam Baptist Church of Indiana in Indianapolis, IN📍Virtual Attendance: Airmeet Glossary * Burmese American Catholic Fellowship (BACF): A community established in 1995 in the Bay Area to offer Mass, prayers, and emotional support in a way that reflects Burmese culture and language. * St. Philomena’s Convent High School: A boarding school in Yangon run by Irish Good Shepherd nuns [https://www.goodshepherdmyanmar.org/our-history/], where Liz Law and her twin sister were educated and first introduced to Christianity. * Parish within a Parish: A structural model used by St. Thomas More Church, which houses five distinct ethnic communities (Burmese, Arabic American, Brazilian/Portuguese, English/Irish, and Filipino/Tagalog) under one overarching parish. * Feast of the Annunciation of the Lord: A Catholic feast celebrated on March 25th. Liz Law and her twin sister Jean share this birthday, with their names reflecting the Biblical relationship between Elizabeth and John the Baptist (Jean being the French variation of John). * American Needs Fatima [https://www.americaneedsfatima.org/]: is a special campaign to spread the message of Fatima in the United States. The goal of America Needs Fatima is to win the heart and soul of America for Mary by spreading Our Lady’s Fatima message and promoting devotion to Her Immaculate Heart. Discussion Questions * Liz Law faced several profound trials, including cancer and her husband’s medical issues, which ultimately deepened her reliance on God. How can cultural and faith-based immigrant communities better mobilize to support individuals going through severe physical or emotional hardships? * John Lee highlights the “real gap” between the faith experiences Burmese immigrants had in their home country and what they encounter in American parishes. In what specific ways can established churches honor and integrate the unique cultural traditions, music, and spirituality of immigrant congregations? * The “parish within a parish” model at St. Thomas More Church successfully accommodates five different ethnic groups. What are the potential benefits and challenges of this multi-ethnic ecclesiastical structure compared to a more culturally homogenous congregation? * BACF was created in part to preserve Burmese Catholic identity across generations. Without intentional effort, how might young Burmese Americans lose touch with their heritage, and what innovative spaces can communities create to pass down these values today? This podcast series is funded by the APARRI [https://aparri.org/] Working Grant and the American Baptist Home Mission Societies [https://abhms.org/]. Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI’s digital platform! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com [https://fulleraachi.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

9. juli 202627 min
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09. Beyond the Pulpit: Serving a Multi-Ethnic Diaspora Through Friendship and Mohinga Soup

Welcome to episode 9 of our series discussing the history of Burmese American Christianity (Pearl Dive episode 228)! This series is part of Fuller AACHI’s Burma Diaspora Christianity Project led by Dr. Joseph Cheah and Dr. David Moe. In this captivating episode of The Pearl Dive, Dr. David Moe sits down with Reverend Dr. Maung Maung Htwe, pastor of the Overseas Burmese Christian Fellowship [https://www.obcfboston.org/] (OBCF) in Boston, Massachusetts. Dr. Maung reflects deeply on his roots within the Pokhran Karen ethnic group in Myanmar, detailing how a compelling tribal folklore about a lost “golden book” paved the way for early Christian missions. He also opens up about his own unexpected path to ministry, transitioning from a chemistry major seeking to work abroad to answering a distinct divine calling. Stepping away from traditional hierarchical authority, Dr. Maung shares his refreshing approach to pastoring, which heavily prioritizes deep hospitality, friendship, and practical support. Listeners will hear the remarkable origin story of OBCF, which began in the 1990s as a Bible study group right across from the Harvard Stadium, and has since bloomed into one of the most ethnically diverse migrant congregations in America. From navigating complex multi-ethnic unity to cooking traditional Burmese mohinga soup for homesick students and families, Dr. Maung explores what true spiritual growth looks like in a modern immigrant church. Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges You are warmly invited to attend the 2026 Our Story, Our Faith (OSOF) Conference: Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges [https://ourstoriesourfaith.org/], taking place August 7–8, 2026 in Indianapolis, IN, and online. 📍Dates: August 7–8, 2026📍In-Person Location: Falam Baptist Church of Indiana in Indianapolis, IN📍Virtual Attendance: Airmeet Glossary * Po Karen (Pokhran) – One of the major ethnic and linguistic subdivisions of the Karen people in Myanmar, primarily situated in the Irrawaddy Delta region. * The Lost Golden Book Folklore – A traditional Karen folk story predicting that a long-lost sacred book would eventually be returned to the community by a “white-faced brother,” a narrative that heavily resonated with the introduction of the Bible by early western missionaries like Adoniram Judson. * Overseas Burmese Christian Fellowship [https://www.obcfboston.org/] (OBCF) – Founded in Boston around 1993–1994 by Harvard Divinity School student Dr. Maung Maung Yen, it began as a localized apartment Bible study and formally affiliated with the American Baptist Church in 1997. * Mohinga – A traditional Burmese rice noodle and fish soup, often considered a staple breakfast food and a vital cultural touchstone for the Burmese diaspora community. Discussion Questions * Christ Through Culture: Dr. David Moe suggests expanding H. Richard Niebuhr’s famous Christ and Culture typologies to include “Christ through culture,” pointing to how the Karen “lost golden book” folklore anticipated the Gospel message. How does this challenge or shift how we traditionally think about the intersection of indigenous cultures and Western missionary efforts? * Redefining Church Growth: Dr. Maung notes that while OBCF hasn’t grown numerically over its decades in Boston, he has observed profound transformation in individual members’ spirituality and priorities. In a ministry culture often obsessed with size and “megachurch” statistics, how can churches learn to measure and celebrate localized, organic spiritual growth? * The Ministry of Availability: Rather than viewing pastoring as an administrative or strictly pulpit-driven role, Dr. Maung views himself as a caseworker, friend, and cook. What are the practical costs and spiritual rewards of adopting a posture of friendship over institutional hierarchy in pastoral leadership? * Cultivating Intentional Multi-Ethnic Unity: Migrant churches frequently split along singular ethnic and linguistic lines. Yet, OBCF consciously brings together Chinese, Bamar, Karen, Chin, Kachin, and other sub-groups. How does Dr. Maung’s personal background of “growing up without ethnic bias” serve as a model for church leaders looking to maintain peace and unity across highly diverse communities? This podcast series is funded by the APARRI [https://aparri.org/] Working Grant and the American Baptist Home Mission Societies [https://abhms.org/]. Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI’s digital platform! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com [https://fulleraachi.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

2. juli 202637 min
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08. From Mali Island to the Crossroads of America: Faith, Resilience, and the Burmese Diaspora

Welcome to episode 8 of our series discussing the history of Burmese American Christianity (Pearl Dive episode 227)! This series is part of Fuller AACHI’s Burma Diaspora Christianity Project led by Dr. Joseph Cheah and Dr. David Moe. In this powerful episode of The Pearl Dive, host Tim Tseng sits down with theology professor, pastoral leader, and doctoral student Naw Eh Phaw to map her incredible life journey from a tiny, isolated village on Mali Island in southern Burma to the heart of Indianapolis. Naw openly shares the raw trials of her early ministry, from navigating the complexities of her mixed Falam Chin and Karen heritage to enduring international student poverty and personal health struggles in Los Angeles. Listeners will catch a rare glimpse into the early days of the mid-2000s refugee resettlement boom, during which Naw and her husband, Pastor Ci Lian Kap, acted as literal 24/7 lifelines—doing everything from fixing broken household appliances to translating critical legal documents for hundreds of arriving families. The conversation deeply explores the rapid, explosive growth of the Falam Baptist Church of Indiana (FBCI), tracing its evolution from a tiny fellowship of fewer than 100 people into the largest Falam Chin congregation in North America. Yet, Naw doesn't shy away from the hard realities, addressing how historical ethnic fractures caused by Burma's military junta cross oceans to impact diaspora communities in the West. Looking firmly toward the future, she discusses her intentional shift away from a 15-year career in language services to pursue a doctorate in Biblical Counseling at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Driven by an urgent need to treat the systemic trauma, marital strain, and hidden mental health crises impacting resettled families, Naw illuminates how the seeds planted by historic American Baptist missionaries in Burma are now blooming back to enrich the American church landscape. Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges You are warmly invited to attend the 2026 Our Story, Our Faith (OSOF) Conference: Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges [https://ourstoriesourfaith.org/], taking place August 7–8, 2026 in Indianapolis, IN, and online. 📍Dates: August 7–8, 2026📍In-Person Location: Falam Baptist Church of Indiana in Indianapolis, IN📍Virtual Attendance: Airmeet Glossary * Mali Island: A small, isolated island located in the Taninthayi Division of southern Burma near the Thailand border, traditionally populated almost entirely by the Karen ethnic group. * Falam Chin & Karen: Two distinct ethnic minority groups originating from Myanmar (Burma). The Chin people are predominantly from the mountainous Chin State in northwestern Burma and are overwhelmingly Christian, while the Karen people generally hail from southeastern Burma. * Military Junta: The authoritarian military government of Myanmar that seized total power and has historically stoked political instability and internal conflict among the country’s various ethnic minority populations. * Burma Diaspora Christianity Project: A collaborative academic and historical effort led by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at Fuller Theological Seminary to preserve, document, and integrate the unique stories of Burmese American Christians into broader Asian American faith studies. * FBCI (Falam Baptist Church of Indiana): Located on the south side of Indianapolis, this institution grew from a tiny group of around 100 people in 2005 to become North America’s largest Falam Chin church, boasting roughly 2,000 members. Discussion Questions * Navigating Inherited Scars: Naw notes that historical ethnic conflicts back home—deepened by the political manipulations of the military junta—can unfortunately travel with immigrants and manifest within diaspora churches in the United States. How can immigrant churches balance preserving their specific cultural/linguistic heritages while actively working to heal inherited tribal or ethnic divides under a shared Christian faith? * Holistic vs. Spiritual Ministry: In the early years of the Indianapolis resettlement wave, Naw and her husband functioned as pastors, mechanics, caseworkers, and translators all at once. What does their model of “all-encompassing” community care teach the modern Western church about the relationship between practical social work (housing, literacy, legal aid) and spiritual ministry? * The Evolution of Diaspora Needs: Naw explains that while the first generation of refugees initially needed basic physical survival tools (cars, houses, jobs), the current pressing crisis centers heavily around internal struggles like mental health, youth identity, and marital strain. How must the training and infrastructure of immigrant church leaders evolve to meet these complex psychological and generational shifts? Naw Eh Phaw is a mother of two and a pastor’s wife who has spoken across the nation on family and children’s ministry. She earned her Bachelor of Theology in 1996 and her Master of Arts in Ministry in 1998 from Far Eastern Fundamental School of Theology in Yangon, Myanmar. After graduating, she served as a professor at the same institution for two years. In 2004, she received her Master of Arts in Theology from International Theological Seminary in Los Angeles and is currently pursuing a doctoral degree in Biblical Counseling at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Following 15 years of service as the Director of Language Services, Naw answered God’s call in 2023 to serve in full-time ministry wherever He leads. She currently teaches a Biblical Counseling course at Chin Theological Seminary. Naw is passionate about guiding individuals and families to Christ through biblical truth, and her greatest joy is witnessing broken hearts find complete healing through Christ, our Great Healer. This podcast series is funded by the APARRI [https://aparri.org/] Working Grant and the American Baptist Home Mission Societies [https://abhms.org/]. Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI’s digital platform! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com [https://fulleraachi.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

25. juni 202639 min
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07. Faith Under Fire

Welcome to episode 7 of our series discussing the history of Burmese American Christianity (Pearl Dive episode 226)! This series is part of Fuller AACHI’s Burma Diaspora Christianity Project led by Dr. Joseph Cheah and Dr. David Moe. In this episode, we dive into the powerful and multi-layered responses of Burmese Christian communities navigating Myanmar’s ongoing political crisis. From the front lines of the pro-democracy movement to diaspora churches in the United States, faith has become both a shield and a catalyst for action. David Moe and Joe Cheah illuminate how both Protestants and Catholics are engaging in diverse forms of resistance. This spans from the beautiful “spiritual resistance” found in Indonesian/Malaysian gospel songs such as Kumau Cinta Yesus [https://youtu.be/7Rt7jQ906Rg?si=xqcMRRDKrYjvOJek] (I Want to Love Jesus), to radical acts of nonviolent protest—vividly captured in the globally symbolic image of a Catholic nun, Sister Ann Rose Nu Tawng, kneeling before armed police officers to protect protestors. The conversation moves deeper to examine the complex biblical and theological frameworks driving these actions, exposing the internal tensions that arise when interpreting scriptures like Romans 13 during a violent military coup. We also trace the transnational impact of this political witness on Burmese immigrant churches in the US. Prior to the coup, these congregations predominantly focused on cultural preservation and community life. Today, they have transformed into crucial hubs for global advocacy, human rights awareness, and cross-ethnic collaboration. However, this heightened political involvement has brought deep generational and ideological fractures to light, prompting critical questions about the role of the church, the use of tithes for physical defense, and how the second generation navigates social justice in the diaspora. Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges You are warmly invited to attend the 2026 Our Story, Our Faith (OSOF) Conference: Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges [https://ourstoriesourfaith.org/], taking place August 7–8, 2026 in Indianapolis, IN, and online. 📍Dates: August 7–8, 2026📍In-Person Location: Falam Baptist Church of Indiana in Indianapolis, IN📍Virtual Attendance: Airmeet Glossary * Adharma: A Sanskrit term meaning moral wrongdoing or evil. In the context of the Burmese political crisis, it represents the framework used by some Christians to define the military coup as an unjust entity that must be resisted. * Aung San Suu Kyi [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi] (b. 1945): A globally recognized Burmese politician, diplomat, author, and Nobel Peace Prize laureate. She served as the de facto head of government (State Counselling minister) prior to being deposed and arrested by the military during the February 2021 coup. * Chin State: A mountainous region in western Myanmar predominantly inhabited by the Chin people, an ethnic minority group that is overwhelmingly Christian. David Moe highlights Chin State as having one of the highest percentages of public servants who bravely refused to work under the military regime, leading the local Civil Disobedience Movement (CDM). * Civil Disobedience Movement (CDM): A massive, peaceful resistance campaign launched immediately after the 2021 military coup. It consisted of doctors, educators, engineers, and civil servants refusing to work under the junta to paralyze the regime’s administrative capabilities. * Dharma: A foundational term in Indian and Buddhist traditions broadly meaning moral order, righteousness, or the summary of Buddhist teachings. * Diaspora: Scattered communities of people who have been displaced or migrated from their original homeland. In this episode, it refers to Burmese Christian communities living and worshipping in the United States. * Kumau Cinta Yesus [https://youtu.be/7Rt7jQ906Rg?si=xqcMRRDKrYjvOJek] (I Want to Love Jesus): An Indonesian/Malaysian gospel song that has been cross-culturally adopted by Burmese Christians. Singing this specific song during times of intense political terror serves as a form of “spiritual resistance,” reinforcing absolute allegiance to Christ over a dictatorial regime. * MaBaTha [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Association_of_Myanmar] (Patriotic Association of Myanmar): A powerful, nationalist Buddhist organization that rose to prominence in Myanmar during the 2010s. It has historically driven anti-Muslim sentiments, advanced a hardline pro-Buddhist political agenda, and contributed to the social marginalization of religious and ethnic minorities (including Christians). * Min Aung Hlaing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_Aung_Hlaing] (b. 1956): The senior general of the Myanmar Armed Forces (Tatmadaw) who orchestrated the February 1, 2021 coup, ousting the democratically elected government and subsequently installing himself as the leader of the ruling military junta. * Natural Law Tradition: A philosophical and theological framework asserting that certain moral rights and values are inherent in human nature. This tradition argues that unjust laws passed by human governments do not legally or morally bind a person’s conscience. * Ne Win [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne_Win] (1911 – 2002): A military general who ruled Myanmar from 1962 to 1988 following a coup d’état. He established a totalitarian, isolationist regime under the banner of the “Burmese Way to Socialism,” which initiated decades of economic stagnation and systematic military dominance. * Romans 13 (1–7): A pivotal New Testament passage historically used to command absolute submission to governing authorities. In Myanmar, this text has sparked intense theological debate between literal submissionists and those who argue obedience is strictly reserved for just authorities. * Saffron Revolution [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_Revolution] (2007): A series of massive economic and political protests in Myanmar triggered by the military government’s decision to lift subsidies on fuel. The movement was named after the saffron-colored robes worn by thousands of Buddhist monks who led the nonviolent demonstrations, which were met with a severe, violent crackdown by the military junta. * Sister Ann Rose Nu Tawng [https://www.facebook.com/historyfeels/posts/sister-ann-rose-nu-tawng-is-photographed-begging-armed-police-officers-not-to-sh/1480085813914426/]: A Roman Catholic nun belonging to the Sisters of St. Francis Xavier in Myitkyina. She became a global icon of nonviolent bravery when photos and videos circulated of her kneeling in front of heavily armed police forces, begging them to shoot her instead of the young pro-democracy protestors. * Spiritual Resistance: The practice of using faith-based assets—such as prayer, humanitarian aid, scripture reinterpretation, and sacred music—to internally defy and publicly oppose oppressive political structures. * The 969 Movement [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/969_Movement]: A nationalist movement led by extremist Buddhist monks in Myanmar. It uses numerical Buddhist symbolism to counter what it claims is the expansion of Islam, frequently stoking religious tensions and sporadic communal violence across the country. Discussion Questions * The Limits of Submission: David Moe notes that while some Burmese Christians interpret Romans 13 literally to mean absolute submission to government, others read it in dialogue with Romans 12:9 (”hate what is evil; cling to what is good”) to justify resisting an unjust coup. How should Christians navigate passages on state submission when a government commits severe human rights abuses? Who decides when an authority has lost its legitimacy? * The Ethics of Sanctuary and Defense: The text highlights a controversial friction in diaspora churches regarding whether church tithes should be used to purchase weapons for local defense forces fighting the military regime. Where is the line between providing humanitarian aid (re-reading the Good Samaritan parable) and funding active physical defense, and how does a community maintain unity amidst such stark ethical divides? * The Evolution of Immigrant Ecclesiology: Prior to the political crisis, many Burmese diaspora churches in the US focused purely on community life, language, and cultural preservation. The crisis forced them to pivot into centers of political awareness and inter-ethnic collaboration. Should immigrant and minority churches inherently serve as political and social advocacy hubs, or should they focus strictly on spiritual and cultural sanctuary? Fr. Joe Cheah, OSM, is Professor and Chair in Philosophy, Theology and Religious Studies at the University of Saint Joseph in West Hartford, Connecticut. As a part of the first wave of immigrants from Burma, he came to the United States with his parents in 1966. He co-sponsors the St. Mary’s Home in Kyauktan, Myanmar. All donations and inquiries go through our 501(c)(3) organization in the US: The Children Charitable Foundation of Myanmar, Inc. (childrenofmyanmar.org [https://childrenofmyanmar.org/]) Joe has published extensively, including Race and Religion in American Buddhism: White Supremacy and Immigrant Adaptation (New York: Oxford University Press, 2011), Theological Reflections on “Gangnam Style”: A Racial, Sexual, and Cultural Critique (New York: Palgrave MacMillan, 2014) with Grace Ji-Sun Kim, and Anti-Asian Racism: Myths, Stereotypes, and Catholic Social Teaching (New York: Orbis Books, 2023). Joe can be reached at jcheah@usj.edu. Dr. David Thang Moe [https://macmillan.yale.edu/southeast-asia/person/david-thang-moe] is at Yale University in New Haven, CT. where he is a Postdoctoral Associate and Lecturer in Religion and Conflict at the Council on Southeast Asia Studies at MacMillan Center for International and Area Studies and Department of Religious Studies. He can be reached on Facebook at facebook.com/davidmoe83 [https://www.facebook.com/davidmoe83]. For more about Burmese American Christians, see David Thang Moe, “The Hidden Stories of Burmese American Christians: Understanding their Imagination of Identity,” International Bulletin of Mission Research 2024, Vol. 48(3), 383­ –398. This podcast series is funded by the APARRI [https://aparri.org/] Working Grant and the American Baptist Home Mission Societies [https://abhms.org/]. Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI’s digital platform! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com [https://fulleraachi.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

18. juni 202635 min
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06. Beyond the Golden Pagoda

Welcome to episode 6 of our series discussing the history of Burmese American Christianity (Pearl Dive episode 225)! This series is part of Fuller AACHI’s Burma Diaspora Christianity Project led by Dr. Joseph Cheah and Dr. David Moe. What happens when a deep-rooted faith travels thousands of miles to a new home? In this episode of Pearl Dive, we venture into the heart of the Burmese Diasporic Christianity project. Host Tim Tseng sits down with scholars Dr. Joseph Cheah and Dr. David Mo to uncover the “priceless pearls” of a community often left out of the mainstream narrative. We explore the initial hurdles of arrival and the complex numbers behind a growing population that the US Census doesn’t quite know how to count. This isn’t just a history lesson; it’s a look at the grit and grace required for adaptation. We dive into how Burmese Catholics and Protestants are navigating the tension between their ancestral traditions and the American religious landscape. From the staggering estimates of 3 million Asian Catholics in the US to the specific struggles of the Burmese diaspora, this conversation reveals how a community maintains its soul while building a future in the West. Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges You are warmly invited to attend the 2026 Our Story, Our Faith (OSOF) Conference: Burma Christian Diaspora in Indianapolis: Celebrating Our Stories, Embracing Our Challenges [https://ourstoriesourfaith.org/], taking place August 7–8, 2026 in Indianapolis, IN, and online. 📍Dates: August 7–8, 2026📍In-Person Location: Falam Baptist Church of Indiana in Indianapolis, IN📍Virtual Attendance: Airmeet Glossary * Burmese Diaspora: Refers to the population of people from Myanmar (Burma) living outside their home country, often due to political or economic reasons. * Diasporic Christianity: The practice of the Christian faith as it is adapted and transformed by immigrant communities living in a new cultural context. * Pew Research Center [https://www.pewresearch.org/]: A non-partisan “fact tank” often cited for religious demographics in the US, as the official Census does not track religion. * USCCB [https://www.usccb.org/] (United States Conference of Catholic Bishops): The source for the estimate of 3 million Asian Catholics currently living in the United States. Discussion Questions * Why is “counting” a community so important for its visibility and support in a new country? * The transcript mentions that 34% of Asian Americans are Christian. Does this number surprise you? Why or why not? * What are some specific cultural “pearls” from your own heritage that you would want to preserve if you moved to a different continent? * How does the lack of religious data in the US Census affect how churches serve immigrant populations? * What does “adaptation” look like to you? Is it possible to adapt without losing your original identity? Fr. Joe Cheah, OSM, is Professor and Chair in Philosophy, Theology and Religious Studies at the University of Saint Joseph in West Hartford, Connecticut. As a part of the first wave of immigrants from Burma, he came to the United States with his parents in 1966. He co-sponsors the St. Mary’s Home in Kyauktan, Myanmar. All donations and inquiries go through our 501(c)(3) organization in the US: The Children Charitable Foundation of Myanmar, Inc. (childrenofmyanmar.org [https://childrenofmyanmar.org/]) Joe has published extensively, including Race and Religion in American Buddhism: White Supremacy and Immigrant Adaptation (New York: Oxford University Press, 2011), Theological Reflections on “Gangnam Style”: A Racial, Sexual, and Cultural Critique (New York: Palgrave MacMillan, 2014) with Grace Ji-Sun Kim, and Anti-Asian Racism: Myths, Stereotypes, and Catholic Social Teaching (New York: Orbis Books, 2023). Joe can be reached at jcheah@usj.edu. Dr. David Thang Moe [https://macmillan.yale.edu/southeast-asia/person/david-thang-moe] is at Yale University in New Haven, CT. where he is a Postdoctoral Associate and Lecturer in Religion and Conflict at the Council on Southeast Asia Studies at MacMillan Center for International and Area Studies and Department of Religious Studies. He can be reached on Facebook at facebook.com/davidmoe83 [https://www.facebook.com/davidmoe83]. For more about Burmese American Christians, see David Thang Moe, “The Hidden Stories of Burmese American Christians: Understanding their Imagination of Identity,” International Bulletin of Mission Research 2024, Vol. 48(3), 383­ –398. This podcast series is funded by the APARRI [https://aparri.org/] Working Grant and the American Baptist Home Mission Societies [https://abhms.org/]. Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI’s digital platform! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com [https://fulleraachi.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

11. juni 202632 min