Playing The Inner Game

#53 Andrew Li - Self Worth and Self Belief

1 h 21 min · 11. feb. 2026
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Andrew Li grew up feeling like an outsider. At 12 years old, he was sent to boarding school. Far from home. Far from family. Feeling like a fish out of water. After graduation, reality hit fast. He couldn’t even land entry-level hotel jobs. Not leadership roles. Basic ones. Eventually, someone gave him a chance. So he started at the bottom. Making beds. Cleaning rooms. Doing the jobs nobody talks about. No ego. Just work. Over time, small wins stacked. Confidence grew through repetition, not shortcuts. Years later, that same kid who felt out of place found himself leading one of the most iconic lifestyle brands in the world: Zouk Group. [https://zoukgroup.com/singapore/] From housekeeping… to the CEO’s chair. Seriously incredible. But success didn’t solve everything. Imposter syndrome showed up. Pressure multiplied. The title got bigger, and so did the weight that came with it. That’s when the real work began. Separating who he is from what he does. Learning to lead without ego. Mastering the inner game. Andrew’s story is a reminder that success is built quietly, long before anyone is watching. It’s hard to beat the person who just keeps showing up. Andrew did. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Guest - Andrew Li (https://www.instagram.com/andrew_m_li/ [https://www.instagram.com/andrew_m_li/]) Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/] Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/  [https://www.michaelxcampion.com/]

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#58 Michael Campion - How Great Leaders Communicate Their Way to the Top

I grew up shy, introverted, and terrified of public speaking. A bookworm in Hong Kong. A wallflower who couldn’t hold a room. A kid who went into investment banking because that’s where smart people were supposed to go, not because it was right for me. So I walked away. Professional football. BBC radio. The Premier League. A microphone. A stage. And somewhere along the way, the worst public speaker in the room became one of the most sought-after communication coaches in the world. But here’s what I’ll tell you: it wasn’t talent. It was never talent. It was one conversation with a stranger every single day, for years. What I discovered through football, banking, 15 years on stage, and six years coaching some of the most senior executives on the planet is this: communication is not a gift. It is a skill. And most leaders are operating at seven out of ten of their potential without even realizing it. The expertise is there. The knowledge is there. The years of experience are there. But if you can’t make people feel something, none of it lands. I sat down with Nick Day, CEO of JGA Recruitment Group and host of the HR L&D Podcast, for one of the most honest and wide-ranging conversations I’ve had on communication, leadership, and influence. We go deep on public speaking, the art of listening, why preparation is the only thing that separates great communicators from average ones, and why in a world flooded with AI-generated content, the human touch has never been more valuable. Nick and I unpack the real reason most presentations fail, why following your passion is terrible career advice, what every great leader he’s ever interviewed has in common, and the one question you should ask before you build your next deck. This is one of the most practical and honest conversations I’ve been part of on communication and leadership. I hope it changes the way you speak. Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/ Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/ This episode is from the HR L&D Podcast hosted by Nick Day. Connect with Nick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickday/ Learn more about JGA Recruitment Group: https://jgarecruitment.com/ I’m a Hong Kong-born, UK-based professional speaker, executive coach, and corporate trainer with over 15 years of experience on the global stage. Before stepping into this world, I worked in investment banking and played professional football, representing the Hong Kong national team and competing in the Premier League. Today, I help senior leaders and high-performing teams unlock their communication potential. I’m also a Partner and Head of Corporate Training at Quinlan and Associates, working with organizations across Hong Kong, Singapore, London, and the Middle East. My one-line thesis is simple: talent is practice in disguise. (00:00) Why Communication Is the Skill Every Leader Is Missing (01:26) Human First, Not Resource First (02:23) From Banking to Professional Football, Michael's Story (07:56) Talent Is Practice in Disguise (09:35) Curiosity Beats Chasing Passion (15:58) The Communication Gap Most HR Leaders Don't Know They Have (21:07) Preparation Is the Only Thing That Earns Confidence (23:41) The Art of Listening on Stage (40:09) AI and the Rising Value of Human Connection (44:38) Design Emotion, Not Slides

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#57 Philipp Knuepfer - Why Experience is the New Luxury

Philipp Knuepfer spent 21 years mastering luxury hospitality at one of the world's most iconic hotel groups. General Manager in Boston. Area Vice President across Singapore, Taiwan, Vietnam, and the Philippines. A career built on white-glove service, five-star standards, and the kind of brand loyalty that takes decades to earn. Then he walked away from all of it. Not because it wasn't working. But because he could see where hospitality was going  and it wasn't where most hotel groups were headed. The traveler has changed. The expectations have changed. And the old formula marble lobbies, chandelier entrances, scripted service, brand prestige  is quietly losing its grip on a new generation of guests who want something the traditional luxury hotel was never designed to give them. Connection. Community. A reason to stay that has nothing to do with the bed. What Philipp discovered after two decades at the top of global hospitality is this: when you turn off the light, every hotel room is the same. The room was never the product. It was always everything around it. That insight is what led him to Sunset Hospitality Group, a 360° lifestyle company that started with beach clubs and restaurants and is now one of the most aggressive hotel brands on the planet  as Chief Operating Officer of Sunset Hotels & Resorts. [https://www.sunsethospitality.com/] Now he's building something from scratch. A global hotel brand called Mett [https://www.metthotelsandresorts.com/]. Thirty to forty properties over the next three to five years. Europe, Asia, the Americas. A model where guests don't just sleep in a hotel, they become part of a local community, a membership club, a wellness ecosystem, a living, breathing lifestyle experience that owns the full 24-hour cycle.  This conversation goes deep on the future of luxury hospitality, what modern travelers are really searching for, how AI fits into the human side of service, and what it takes to leave a 21-year career behind and bet on a vision. Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/  Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/ Guest - Philipp Knuepfer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipp-knuepfer-mba-22437014 https://www.metthotelsandresorts.com/  https://www.sunsethospitality.com/  Philipp Knuepfer is the Chief Operating Officer of Sunset Hotels & Resorts, part of Sunset Hospitality Group  a global lifestyle hospitality company operating across hotels, dining, daylife, nightlife, gaming, and membership clubs in over 28 countries. With more than 20 years of experience in luxury hospitality, including senior leadership roles at Mandarin Oriental Hotel Group across Asia, the US, and the Middle East, Philipp now leads the global rollout of the Met Hotel brand. He holds a hotel management degree from the International School for Hotel Business in Germany and an MBA from RMIT University in Melbourne, Australia. (00:00) Every Hotel Room is the Same (01:19) What Modern Luxury Guests Actually Want  (04:42) Why Sunset Hospitality Is Betting Big on Hotels  (07:59) Where Met Hotel Is Expanding Globally  (10:30) The Wellness & Longevity Shift in Travel  (17:12) Designing Spaces for Community & Connection  (26:04) AI in Hospitality Where It Helps & Where It Stops  (32:53) How Philipp Manages a Global COO Role  (37:33) Why He Left Mandarin Oriental for Sunset  (47:09) Owning the Full 24-Hour Guest Experience

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#56 Louisa Robb - Don't Fit the Institution: One Executive's Journey From Finance to Finding Her Voice

Louisa Robb grew up in a chaotic and creative household. A dreamer father who never quite landed his visions. A mother pioneering her way through the Australian film and television industry. Dinner parties with actors. No financial safety net. No predictable path. So she built one. Economics degree. Hong Kong. Zurich. UBS. Managing Director. Global COO overseeing thousands of people. She fit the institution. She wore the suit. She prepared, over-prepared, and prepared some more just to feel like she belonged at the table. And for years, it worked. But something kept pulling at her. The creative child who grew up watching her mother break barriers. The woman who kept asking: should we really have to earn the right to be ourselves? What Louisa discovered after two decades at the top of global finance is this: culture is not a values poster on a wall. It is the set of behaviors people believe they must exhibit just to fit in. And that costs everyone. Especially women. The micro-injuries accumulate quietly. The promotions come without support. The networking happens on golf courses and in spaces that were never designed for you. And one by one, talented women disappear from the pipeline. Louisa left banking to fix that. Not with more compliance. Not with more control. But with a mirror, a whiteboard, and tools that finally put a number on what everyone could feel but no one could prove. This conversation goes deep on imposter syndrome, organisational culture, women in leadership, and what it really means to lead on your own terms. One of the most honest and grounded conversations I have had on this show. I hope it stays with you. Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/ [https://www.michaelxcampion.com/] Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/] Guest - Louisa Robb (https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisa-robb/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisa-robb/]) Louisa Robb is the Founder and Managing Director of Lucella AG, a professional coaching and consulting firm based in Zurich, Switzerland. With over 20 years of experience as a senior executive in international finance, including roles as Managing Director and Global COO at UBS AG, she now helps organizations and leaders diagnose and shift organizational culture, develop executive capability, and unlock untapped potential. She is the creator of the Athena program, a year-long women's leadership cohort designed to help women identify who they are, what they want, and how to get it. Her tools include Human Synergistics culture measurement frameworks and the Japanese philosophy of ikigai. She works with investment banks, insurance companies, and major international organizations across Europe and beyond. (00:00) Growing up creative in a world that rewarded conformity  (04:10) A filmmaker mother, a dreamer father, and the hunger for security  (06:41) Graduating into a recession and landing in Hong Kong  (09:07) Being the only woman on the desk and knowing when to walk  (12:37) Meeting a Swiss man on the Trans-Siberian Railway  (16:36) What it takes to rise through each stage of a finance career  (20:43) Micro-injuries and why women disappear at mid-career  (27:54) Imposter syndrome and the discipline of over-preparation  (33:46) Why she left UBS and what organizational culture really means  (37:07) The mirror: closing the gap between intent and impact  (44:35) Ikigai, the Athena program, and unlocking untapped potential  (59:34) Words to live by, life principles, and what she is most grateful for

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episode #55 Nick Day - Are You Paying the "Fear Tax"? (The Hidden Cost of Playing It Small) cover

#55 Nick Day - Are You Paying the "Fear Tax"? (The Hidden Cost of Playing It Small)

Nick Day was driving his car half a mile from home. On his way to pick up his daughter.  Half a second later, everything changed and his whole life turned upside down.  The person who showed up after the accident was someone he didn't recognise. Nick, an extrovert with a theatre degree. Loud. Social. Full of life. He closed the curtains and didn't leave his house for months. He told himself it was out of respect. But when he got really honest, it was fear. That was the beginning. Years of struggle followed. His daughter was diagnosed with an eating disorder. His father, his hero, passed away. And through every one of those moments, fear showed up again. Different shape. Same game. What Nick discovered is this: fear isn't the enemy. It's a signal.  It points directly at the things that matter most. And fear’s greatest disguise? Wisdom. It’s that quiet voice telling you to keep your distance. To play it safe. To play it small. That voice isn't wisdom. That's fear in a suit. Failure you can heal from. But regret lingers forever. Where are you paying “The Fear Tax” in your life? This is one of the most vulnerable and moving conversations I've ever had on this show.  I hope it resonates with you the way it did with me. Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/ [https://www.michaelxcampion.com/] Guest - Nick Day (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickday/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickday/]) Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/] Nick Day is the CEO and founder of JGA Recruitment Group, a B-Corp certified executive search firm specializing in Payroll and HR. An ILM Level 7 certified executive coach, author, speaker, and podcast host, he is the #1 Global Thought Leader in Payroll and one of the Top 10 HR Voices. His work focuses on the intersection of leadership, talent, mindset, and performance. Host of: The Payroll Podcast, The HR L&D Podcast, and The Mindful Paths Podcast. As the creator of The Fear Equation™ and B.O.L.D.™, he helps leaders transform fear and uncertainty into purposeful action. His book, The Payroll Pivot: From Invisibility to Influence was released in March.  (00:00) Opening proverb: the secret to lasting happiness (02:18) The accident that changed everything (07:05) Fear as a signal, not a stop sign (09:37) The three-part fear equation explained (14:50) The fear paradox and success anxiety (21:01) The BOLD framework: a practical tool for courage (26:52) Dealing with fear during a family crisis (44:08) The fear tax: what inaction really costs you (47:36) Finding joy in the struggle (50:04) Nick's life philosophy: be more kind (55:45) What Nick would regret most (57:05) His father's final words: keep opening new doors

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#54 Rasheed Shroff - Unlocking the Power of Authentic Communication (Entrepreneur Stories Interview)

I had the opportunity to sit down with Rasheed Shroff from 'Entrepreneur Stories' for a conversation about authentic communication and the leadership edge it creates. Recorded in front of a live audience, we explored the experiences that shaped my thinking, from investment banking to professional sport, entrepreneurship to podcasting, and how each environment forced me to refine how I show up under pressure. One of the key themes we discussed was intentionality.  At 15, I realised talent alone would never be enough.  That shift in mindset changed the trajectory of my life.  I set myself a simple target - 1 conversation with a stranger every single day.  And I've been hitting the books on communication and psychology ever since.  “It takes effort to make things look effortless” I hope find our conversation valuable as you seek to unlock new levels within yourself Apply to work with me: www.michaelxcampion.com  [https://www.michaelxcampion.com/] Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/] Connect with Rasheed Shroff: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rasheedshroff/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rasheedshroff/] Entrepreneur Stories: https://www.youtube.com/@entrepreneurstories.podcast [https://www.youtube.com/@entrepreneurstories.podcast]

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