S2, E14: Dan Benshoff & AJ Nielsen - Volunteers of America, Utah

Utah’s Drought Reality Check

Utah’s leaders are telling all of us to conserve water, fix leaks, and rethink thirsty lawns, and they’re right to. But the same week Governor Spencer Cox declares a statewide drought emergency, he also publicly admits the Stratos data center rollout “was not that good,” a major reversal on a massive Box Elder County proposal tied to the Great Salt Lake. We sit with that contradiction and unpack what it means for democratic process, water rights, energy demand, and whether Utah is building a future that matches its climate reality. From there, we head straight to Salt Lake City Hall for a fast, unexpected resolution in the Ava Lopez-Chavez saga. A residency finding vacates the District 4 seat immediately under state code, and the council drops the separate sexual misconduct investigation once she’s no longer a member. We talk through the timeline, the documents at the center of the dispute, and what happens next as the city races to appoint an interim replacement during budget season. Then we explain the giant smoke plume you might have seen over Davis County, and why it was good news. The Farmington Bay prescribed burn targets phragmites, an invasive, water-hungry reed that chokes wetlands and threatens habitat, and researchers say restoration could save huge amounts of water each season. We close with quick hits, from school district background check changes to new Utah culture plans, sports notes, and a preview of next week’s conversation with foster care advocate and author Celeste Edmonds. If you care about Salt Lake City news, Utah politics, and the Great Salt Lake, subscribe, share this update, and leave a review so more neighbors can find it. Have a Question? Ask it here! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/fan_mail/new] Check out the DLX 313 at Via313 today! Questions about buying or selling a home in Utah? Email Spencer spencer.ford@vuere.com or use the contact form here [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6Fu7-y3J9RMSvatzK-9Px06OMfjvydFjLwP7i1jC_3W8xRg/viewform?usp=header] to get in touch Please be sure to like, review, follow, subscribe and share the podcast with your friends and family! See you next time  Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/support] Join the Small Lake City Discord: https://discord.gg/RRXGR7kP Subscribe to the Newsletter! https://www.smalllakepod.com/newsletter-landing-page Instagram: @smalllakepod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SmallLakeCityPodcast TikTok: @smalllakepod

S2, E15: Rosie Card

Once someone working for the LDS church and creating temple dresses became a voice for womens rights. Rosie Card, a Utah creator and writer whose path through Mormonism is about as classic as it gets: BYU, a mission, church work, and even running a temple dress company for nearly a decade. What makes her story hit is how clearly she names the tension so many people feel in Salt Lake City and beyond: we want community and tradition, but we also want women’s rights, LGBTQIA dignity, and room for nuance. We get into the experiences that start the shift, including seeing real poverty on a mission and realizing “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” collapses when people don’t have boots. Rosie talks about trying to change the LDS Church from within, what it costs to be publicly outspoken, and the scary reality of being doxxed by people using ward tools. We also dig into Mormon feminism, how history gets erased, and why so many women feel like they’re reinventing the wheel alone in Relief Society. On the other side of faith deconstruction, Rosie describes a bigger kind of freedom: the world opening up when you stop living by a preset life plan. We talk about spirituality after Mormonism, accountability without the old frameworks, and why women’s financial independence matters when marriage and motherhood are treated as the only righteous path. If this conversation made you nod along, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review. What was the moment that made you stop twisting yourself into knots? Have a Question? Ask it here! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/fan_mail/new] Check out the DLX 313 at Via313 today! Questions about buying or selling a home in Utah? Email Spencer spencer.ford@vuere.com or use the contact form here [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6Fu7-y3J9RMSvatzK-9Px06OMfjvydFjLwP7i1jC_3W8xRg/viewform?usp=header] to get in touch Visit www.luxeautomotive.com or use this link [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdldVYSCUzLhiGWyCpHcOVpzOlqqwiN57PuL01lhYnMKwjKxA/viewform?usp=header] to request a quote Please be sure to like, review, follow, subscribe and share the podcast with your friends and family! See you next time  Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/support] Join the Small Lake City Discord: https://discord.gg/RRXGR7kP Subscribe to the Newsletter! https://www.smalllakepod.com/newsletter-landing-page Instagram: @smalllakepod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SmallLakeCityPodcast TikTok: @smalllakepod

The Great Salt Lake Data Center Fight

A project pitched as “the future” is running straight through the most sensitive nerve in Utah: the Great Salt Lake. I break down the latest developments in the proposed O’Leary Digital data center campus in Hansel Valley, including the procedural twist that has people fired up. After thousands of formal protests, the developers withdrew a water-rights application, then immediately refiled under House Bill 60, a new Utah law that narrows what can be considered in water-rights protests. If you’ve been trying to follow the story, this is the part that makes the stakes feel more urgent, not less. I also share what I’m hearing and seeing around the public response: the Capitol rally, the petition delivered to Governor Spencer Cox’s office, and the growing call for independent environmental review and genuine public comment. Utah has spent years and huge amounts of money trying to rescue the Great Salt Lake, so the tension between sacrifice and unchecked growth is not going away anytime soon. Even if permitting takes years, the fight over whether this project should exist at all is happening right now. Then we shift to the stuff that hits closer to home day-to-day: Chow Bao Bao is closing both of its Salt Lake City locations, a tough loss for anyone who loved that tiny space and the food coming out of it. We also talk Temple Square’s Visitors Center reopening and why the new, more open visitor experience matters for downtown, no matter where you stand religiously. To wrap up, I run through quick city updates on the Utah Jazz draft conversation, new affordable housing momentum in Ballpark, homeownership funding, and an early reminder that Utah fire season is already here. If the show matters to you, subscribe, share it with someone who cares about Salt Lake City, and leave a review where you listen. Have a Question? Ask it here! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/fan_mail/new] Check out the DLX 313 at Via313 today! Questions about buying or selling a home in Utah? Email Spencer spencer.ford@vuere.com or use the contact form here [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6Fu7-y3J9RMSvatzK-9Px06OMfjvydFjLwP7i1jC_3W8xRg/viewform?usp=header] to get in touch Please be sure to like, review, follow, subscribe and share the podcast with your friends and family! See you next time  Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/support] Join the Small Lake City Discord: https://discord.gg/RRXGR7kP Subscribe to the Newsletter! https://www.smalllakepod.com/newsletter-landing-page Instagram: @smalllakepod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SmallLakeCityPodcast TikTok: @smalllakepod

Vault Episode 13: Adam Barker

He built a life around skiing, then rebuilt his identity around a camera and now he’s rebuilding it again as a startup founder. Adam Barker joins us to talk about the real mechanics behind an “overnight success” in outdoor photography: the grit from team sports, the obsession that made him chase better skiers, and the unglamorous work of planning shots, directing athletes, and executing when conditions and daylight don’t wait. If you’re into action sports, active lifestyle photography, or the creative craft behind iconic ski images, you’ll hear what most people miss about how those photos get made. We also go deep on the business side of creativity. Adam shares how he moved from PR and marketing into freelancing, why he refused to keep doing work he dreaded, and how he thinks about pricing, value, and sustainability in a world with no standard rates. We talk first impressions, branding, portfolios, and why “fake it till you make it” only works if you’re putting in the reps to make the technical side automatic so your creativity can lead. Then the conversation takes a sharp and fascinating turn: Bolt Skin and Shave. Adam explains why men’s leg shaving is far more common than people think, what it takes to design a purpose-built razor and skincare line, and how intense it is to raise money, learn manufacturing, and live inside the uncertainty of a consumer packaged goods startup. It’s a candid look at entrepreneurship, fear of failure, and the decision to bet on yourself when your family is counting on you. If this one hits, subscribe to Small Lake City, share it with a friend who’s building something, and leave a review with the risk you’re finally ready to take. Have a Question? Ask it here! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/fan_mail/new] Check out the DLX 313 at Via313 today! Questions about buying or selling a home in Utah? Email Spencer spencer.ford@vuere.com or use the contact form here [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6Fu7-y3J9RMSvatzK-9Px06OMfjvydFjLwP7i1jC_3W8xRg/viewform?usp=header] to get in touch Visit www.luxeautomotive.com or use this link [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdldVYSCUzLhiGWyCpHcOVpzOlqqwiN57PuL01lhYnMKwjKxA/viewform?usp=header] to request a quote Please be sure to like, review, follow, subscribe and share the podcast with your friends and family! See you next time  Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/support] Join the Small Lake City Discord: https://discord.gg/RRXGR7kP Subscribe to the Newsletter! https://www.smalllakepod.com/newsletter-landing-page Instagram: @smalllakepod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SmallLakeCityPodcast TikTok: @smalllakepod

The Jazz Land No. 2 And The State Finally Gets A Bit Of Good News

The Utah Jazz just got the kind of lottery luck that should feel like a party, and somehow it still stings. We break down what it means to jump to the No. 2 overall pick in the 2026 NBA Draft, why losing out on BYU star AJ DeBanza hits a nerve across the state, and what the next few weeks could look like as the trade-up question hangs in the air. I also look at the roster context and why a top-two addition could finally make the rebuild feel concrete. From there, we shift to a headline Salt Lake City doesn’t get often enough: progress in the homelessness numbers. Utah’s 2026 point-in-time count shows a decline overall, and unsheltered homelessness drops by nearly 10%. I put that in context after last year’s spike, talk through what leaders say is working with a more “human first” approach, and call out the hard part that can’t be ignored, including a rise in seniors experiencing homelessness. If you listened to my recent conversation with Volunteers of America, Utah, you’ll hear the connection between the data and the day-to-day work on the ground. We also hit an end-of-an-era business story as Crumbl Cookies’ founders step back from day-to-day leadership after scaling from Logan to more than 1,100 locations worldwide. Plus: the latest reasons critics are skeptical of the Stratos Project data center in Box Elder County, a new affordable housing complex proposed for the Ballpark neighborhood, and a quick look at Midvale’s Main Street revitalization. Then I tease next week’s interview with Rosie Card on women’s rights and post-Mormon identity, a conversation that feels impossible to separate from life in Salt Lake. Subscribe for weekly Utah news with context, share the episode with someone who loves this city, and leave a review to help more people find the show. Have a Question? Ask it here! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/fan_mail/new] Check out the DLX 313 at Via313 today! Questions about buying or selling a home in Utah? Email Spencer spencer.ford@vuere.com or use the contact form here [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6Fu7-y3J9RMSvatzK-9Px06OMfjvydFjLwP7i1jC_3W8xRg/viewform?usp=header] to get in touch Please be sure to like, review, follow, subscribe and share the podcast with your friends and family! See you next time  Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2253231/support] Join the Small Lake City Discord: https://discord.gg/RRXGR7kP Subscribe to the Newsletter! https://www.smalllakepod.com/newsletter-landing-page Instagram: @smalllakepod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SmallLakeCityPodcast TikTok: @smalllakepod