The Messy Middle Podcast

21 | The Quiet Grief of "Wasted Years"

20 min · 23. apr. 2026
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In this episode, I’m talking about something that almost every woman I’ve ever worked with eventually hits: the quiet grief of “wasted years.” It’s that heavy moment of looking back at a relationship and thinking, I lost myself in that. Sometimes it’s years, sometimes decades. And it often comes with shame, confusion, and a harsh inner narrative that says you should have known better. But what if that whole story is built on hindsight that your past self simply didn’t have access to yet? Let’s get into it. In this episode, I cover: *  The quiet, often unspoken grief that shows up after narcissistic abuse and emotional control  * Why “I should have left sooner” is usually hindsight talking, not truth  *  How abuse dynamics, coercive control, and gaslighting distort your perception while you’re inside them Why your brain rewrites the past once you finally learn the language for what happened  * How survival, timing, and nervous system capacity all shape when you were able to see and act  *  Why those “wasted years” are often years of adaptation, not failure  * The shift that happens when grief turns into clarity, discernment, and self-trust  *  How survivors often emerge from this stage with a strong refusal to lose themselves again  This episode is not about reframing pain into positivity or skipping over grief. It’s about giving it space, naming it properly, and removing the self-blame that so often gets attached to it. Because once you understand what you were actually navigating, the question stops being “Why did I stay?” and starts becoming “How did I survive that?” And that shift changes everything about how you move forward. 📩 Send in YOUR questions [http://theerikaleon.com/podcast] and get them answered on the podcast! 📢 Get a Laster Coaching call for only $150. [https://calendly.com/theerikaleon/1-1-intro-rate-laser-coaching] A 45-minute session to get to know me, experience my approach, and receive a personalized plan to kickstart your healing journey. Perfect for testing the waters before diving deeper. 🎬 Watch Unfu*kwithable Boundaries Masterclass for FREE. [https://www.theerikaleon.com/boundaries-masterclass] Learn how setting clear boundaries can change your life for good and where to start!  📝 Get the Somatic Keys Course. [https://www.theerikaleon.com/somatic-course] Learn how to recognize your signals, regulate your responses, and reclaim your nervous system as a place of truth.

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27 | Why Healing Doesn't Feel the Way You Expected

Have you ever caught yourself thinking, "I seem okay on the outside... but inside I'm still struggling"? After narcissistic abuse, emotional control, betrayal, or a high-conflict separation, many women find themselves functioning long before they feel healed. You're going to work, looking after the kids, handling responsibilities, showing up for everyone else, and from the outside it might seem like you've moved on. But underneath? You're still carrying grief, triggers, confusion, anger, and moments that knock the wind out of you. In this episode of The Messy Middle, Erica explores the uncomfortable feeling that you're somehow "faking" your healing because the version the world sees doesn't always match what's happening inside. She unpacks why functioning is often mistaken for recovery, how societal pressure can make you feel like you should be "over it by now," and why healing is never as neat or linear as people expect. You'll learn: * Why healing and functioning are not the same thing * How shame and unrealistic timelines keep women judging their own recovery * Why feeling triggered doesn't mean you've gone backwards * The difference between processing and being stuck * How real healing often shows up in quiet, subtle ways * Why you can be moving forward and still be affected at the same time If you've been wondering whether you're doing recovery "wrong" because you're still having hard days, this episode is your reminder that healing isn't a performance, a personality, or a finish line. It's messy, layered, unpredictable, and completely human. You are not faking it. You're simply in the middle of it. 📩 Send in YOUR questions [http://theerikaleon.com/podcast] and get them answered on the podcast! 📢 Get a Laster Coaching call for only $150. [https://calendly.com/theerikaleon/1-1-intro-rate-laser-coaching] A 45-minute session to get to know me, experience my approach, and receive a personalized plan to kickstart your healing journey. Perfect for testing the waters before diving deeper. 🎬 Watch Unfu*kwithable Boundaries Masterclass for FREE. [https://www.theerikaleon.com/boundaries-masterclass] Learn how setting clear boundaries can change your life for good and where to start!  📝 Get the Somatic Keys Course. [https://www.theerikaleon.com/somatic-course] Learn how to recognize your signals, regulate your responses, and reclaim your nervous system as a place of truth.

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episode 26 | The 'Was it really that bad?" Thought Spiral.. cover

26 | The 'Was it really that bad?" Thought Spiral..

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episode 25 | Dating as a Practice Ground for Self-Trust cover

25 | Dating as a Practice Ground for Self-Trust

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episode 24 | The “Oh Hell No” Phase of Healing: When All You See are Red Flags cover

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episode 23 | Dating After Abuse: Slower, Safer Sparks cover

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