City So Real with Kevin Coval

Cousin Jackie

46 min · 26. huhti 2026
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Here's another Chicagoan who shoots straight. "Most people are afraid to get old," says Kevin's cousin Jackie. In her 94 years, Jackie has lived a large life surrounded by the complications of a very loving family. This is a chat with a family matriarch who shares how first gens survive in this town. Get full access to Kevin's Substack at kevincoval.substack.com/subscribe [https://kevincoval.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

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This conversation is about artistic bloodlines, and the social forces that fuel creators in Chicago. Elise Seigenthaler [https://eliseseigenthaler.com/] & Sébastien Johnson [https://www.instagram.com/sflj_/] are partners in life and curation. Both have separate practices. Elise opened a gallery this year in West Town, and Sébastien has seen the World Cup reignite his work as a painter. Both are French-American, and could choose any place on the planet to practice their collective joys. During this convo, Kevin gets into why Chicago suits their exploration of the world, and what Elise & Sébastian have learned from the unexpected. Get full access to Kevin's Substack at kevincoval.substack.com/subscribe [https://kevincoval.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

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