If The Public Only Knew- Behind Every Success, a Story Worth Telling

Jesse Gilmore: Systems, Scalable Offers, and the Leverage for Growth Method

24 min · 10. kesä 2026
jakson Jesse Gilmore: Systems, Scalable Offers, and the Leverage for Growth Method kansikuva

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From lucid dreaming to leverage, this is the story of an entrepreneur who stopped trading hours for income and built a business that runs without him. In this episode, Gary and Jesse Gilmore discuss: * Early fascination with psychology and lucid dreaming * Door-to-door sales and learning from brick-and-mortar owners * Three early businesses and the trap of “show business.” * Corporate experience, valuation, and discovering strategic strengths * Creating Niche in Control, Leverage for Growth, and the Scalable Agency Accelerator Key Takeaways: * Entrepreneurship doesn’t automatically equal freedom; if the business depends entirely on the founder showing up, it’s just another job with a different label. * Studying how other owners think about success, systems, and leverage can shorten the learning curve dramatically. * Corporate experience can reveal the missing pieces in small businesses—especially around valuation, structure, and strategic thinking. * Moving from one-on-one delivery to leveraged models (group, masterminds, and courses) is often essential if a founder wants to scale without burnout. * Coachability, assertiveness, and a clear vision for the company are critical traits for any leader who wants to implement real, lasting change. "I guess the only personality types that wouldn't work really well is if they're just not good, they're not coachable, they don't have some type of vision for the company, or where they're wanting to go." — Jesse Gilmore About Jesse Gilmore: Jesse Gilmore is the founder of Niche in Control and creator of the Leverage for Growth method, a framework that helps agency owners reclaim their time, build systems, and scale beyond a personality-driven business. Starting as an 18-year-old door-to-door salesman obsessed with psychology and lucid dreaming, he spent years interviewing business owners and filling journals with real-world lessons on success. After launching multiple ventures that still depended entirely on his own effort, Jesse stepped into a $4B global corporation, where he finally saw how strategy, systems, and valuation work at scale. Combining his entrepreneurial scars with his corporate experience, he now coaches and consults agencies on building scalable offers, installing client acquisition systems, and empowering their teams—so the business can grow without the founder being in “show business” every day. Through his Scalable Agency Accelerator, mastermind programs, and the Leverage for Growth Podcast, Jesse helps leaders move from overworked operator to strategic, freedom-focused CEO. Connect with Jesse Gilmore:   Website: https://nicheincontrol.com/ [https://nicheincontrol.com/]  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessepgilmore/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessepgilmore/]  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@nicheincontroltv [https://www.youtube.com/@nicheincontroltv]  Free Guide – The Agency Owner’s Guide to Freedom: https://www.nicheincontrol.com/free-guide [https://www.nicheincontrol.com/free-guide]  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://betterpathtraining.com/ [https://betterpathtraining.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/] Audio production by https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/Turnkey Podcast Productions. [https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/] You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

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jakson Dr. Oliver Degnan: Never Burn Out Again—Redefining Success, Stress, and the Future of Work kansikuva

Dr. Oliver Degnan: Never Burn Out Again—Redefining Success, Stress, and the Future of Work

What if burnout were a fixable “defect” in how you relate to your work and your future? Discover the science-backed framework that helped a high-powered tech executive walk away, rebuild, and design a life where burnout can’t take hold. In this episode, Gary and Dr. Oliver Degnan discuss: * Redefining burnout beyond exhaustion * Early warning signs and personal story of executive burnout * Rebuilding a career and life that makes burnout impossible * Machine learning vs. true AI and real-world applications * Using AI as a business fabric, not just a tool, to scale and reduce burnout Key Takeaways: * Burnout isn’t about being tired; it’s about losing the belief that your future self can succeed within your current environment. * Constant micro-stress and “firestorm culture,” where everything is urgent and high priority, silently push high performers onto the burnout spectrum. * You can systematically repair your relationship with your environment and future outlook, treating burnout as a “defect” that can be fixed rather than a permanent condition. * Aligning your work with purpose, autonomy, and the right structure can make it practically impossible to burn out, even in high-responsibility roles. * AI becomes a true competitive advantage when treated as an organizational fabric that improves decision-making, scale, and client outcomes—not just as a writing or productivity gadget. "When we talk about business AI, I like to think of AI as like a fabric; it's the underlying fabric, a system of your business." — Dr. Oliver Degnan About Dr. Oliver Degnan: Oliver is a career executive leader passionate about technology innovation, entrepreneurship, and business strategy. He holds technology patents for breakthrough inventions cited by Fortune 100 companies, such as Apple, Google, and Intuit, in Silicon Valley. Over the past 20 years, Oliver has led more than 1,600 employees worldwide to disrupt the status quo in healthcare innovation to help prevent physician burnout and improve people's health. He founded several businesses in Germany and the United States with successful multi-million-dollar exits. Oliver coaches and mentors CIOs, CTOs, and startup CEOs worldwide to reach their fullest potential in their careers and lives. He draws from his work in the trenches of the C-Suite and his scientific research during his doctoral studies at the University of Wisconsin. Dr. Oliver Degnan published research articles on AI culture and innovation with Berkeley University and is the author of “NEVER BURNOUT AGAIN,” a self-help and corporate workshop that teaches readers how to boost their productivity to new heights without risking burnout. The book is based on Oliver’s own journey and experience climbing the corporate ladder from a software developer to Chief Information Officer and PE Venture CEO. Connect with Dr. Oliver Degnan:   Website: https://www.drdegnan.com/ [https://www.drdegnan.com/]  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://betterpathtraining.com/ [https://betterpathtraining.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/] Audio production by https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/Turnkey Podcast Productions. [https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/] You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

22. heinä 202649 min
jakson Rhonda Frith-Lyons: The Sassy Entrepreneur Redefining Founders, CEOs, and AI kansikuva

Rhonda Frith-Lyons: The Sassy Entrepreneur Redefining Founders, CEOs, and AI

Some founders build products; others build systems that outlast them. Hear how an engineer-turned-consultant uses pattern recognition, psychology, and bold truth-telling to rescue businesses from their own blind spots. In this episode, Gary and Rhonda Frith-Lyons discuss: * Career evolution from engineering to consulting * Pattern recognition and systems thinking in business * Consulting and executive coaching philosophy * Founder-to-CEO challenges and ego dynamics * AI, middle-market companies, and the vision behind Vantyx Partners Key Takeaways: * The most powerful career advantage often comes from combining great technical skills with strong people, sales, and business development capabilities. * Solving the right problem matters more than having the flashiest solution; pattern recognition and systems thinking help uncover the real issues beneath the surface. * Effective advisors don’t just give answers—they ask provocative questions that help leaders confront blind spots and arrive at their own realizations. * The traits that make a great founder rarely map directly to being an effective CEO, and ego can be a company’s biggest hidden risk if left unexamined. * AI should be used to reimagine and repurpose human talent, not replace it; human discernment, nuance, and relationship skills remain central to long-term business success. "AI has some big implications. It can be a great thing if used properly and responsibly, like any piece of technology." — Rhonda Frith-Lyons About Rhonda Frith-Lyons: Rhonda Frith-Lyons is an architectural engineer turned “professional problem solver” for founders and middle-market companies. After cutting her teeth at Bank of America in technology, operations, and complex problem-solving, she built a consulting and executive coaching practice that blends systems thinking, organizational psychology, and bold, no-nonsense advice.  As founder of The Sassy Entrepreneur and co-founder of Vantyx Partners, she helps leaders move from scrappy founder to capable CEO, using AI as a strategic tool while keeping human judgment, culture, and execution at the center of every business transformation. Connect with Rhonda Frith-Lyons:   Website: https://www.thesassyentrepreneurllc.com [https://www.thesassyentrepreneurllc.com]  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhondalfrithlyons [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhondalfrithlyons]  Blog: https://www.thesassyentrepreneurllc.com/leadershipbydegrees [https://www.thesassyentrepreneurllc.com/leadershipbydegrees]  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://betterpathtraining.com/ [https://betterpathtraining.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/] Audio production by https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/Turnkey Podcast Productions. [https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/] You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

15. heinä 202627 min
jakson Derek Sloan: Leading with Curiosity in Trauma and Organizational Change kansikuva

Derek Sloan: Leading with Curiosity in Trauma and Organizational Change

What if the key to better mental health and better managers was the same skill: deep, disciplined curiosity? This conversation digs into that connection. In this episode, Gary and Derek Sloan discuss: * Childhood instability and the birth of deep curiosity * Early leadership, open letters, and external affirmation * College, internships, and an unconventional path into the helping professions * Bridging trauma therapy and organizational consulting * Body-first approaches to trauma, regulation, and healing Key Takeaways: * A habit of asking questions in response to change can evolve from simple curiosity into a powerful tool for serving and connecting with others. * External affirmation from trusted authority figures can become a crucial validator that nudges people further into their natural strengths and callings. * Deep impact often begins with listening well; being present with others in hard seasons does not require having all the answers. * Workplace dynamics and leadership behavior have a profound effect on mental well-being, sometimes rivaling or exceeding the influence of therapists and doctors. * Sustainable trauma work usually starts with regulating the body first and only then moving into cognitive processing, because an unregulated nervous system limits access to higher-level thinking. "Trauma by nature shows up in the body, stress, fear, anxiety." — Derek Sloan About Derek Sloan: Derek Sloan is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor, Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, and executive coach with over 20 years of experience working with leaders across industries. He is the host of the Mental Stillness Podcast. What sets Derek apart isn't just what he knows - it's what he's lived. He has built and sold businesses, coached C-suite executives, and worked with teams under genuine pressure. His proprietary frameworks - the Device States Model™, PACE Reboot™, CARE Model™, and Resilience Playbook™ - are grounded in neuroscience and immediately applicable. He is the author of Pressurized: A Field Guide to Leading Well Under Pressure. Connect with Derek Sloan:   LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/derekbsloan [https://linkedin.com/in/derekbsloan]  Website: https://www.abridgeleadership.com/ [https://www.abridgeleadership.com/]  Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mental-stillness/id1717076433 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mental-stillness/id1717076433]  Book: https://www.abridgeleadership.com/bookorders [https://www.abridgeleadership.com/bookorders]  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://betterpathtraining.com/ [https://betterpathtraining.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/] Audio production by https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/Turnkey Podcast Productions. [https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/] You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

8. heinä 202625 min
jakson Noa Ronen: From Command-and-Control to Peer-to-Peer Leadership kansikuva

Noa Ronen: From Command-and-Control to Peer-to-Peer Leadership

In a world obsessed with frameworks and slide decks, this conversation dives into what actually transforms people at work: real stories, real peers, and real change. From the Israeli Navy to tech and healthcare, this episode uncovers how peer-to-peer leadership outperforms traditional training—and why the human side of change can’t be outsourced. In this episode, Gary and Noa Ronen discuss: * Early leadership lessons in the Israeli Navy * Navigating relocation, identity, and grief in major life changes * The rise of coaching and human-centered leadership * Peer-to-peer learning vs. traditional corporate training * Building self-coached, high-trust teams in tech and healthcare Key Takeaways: * Deep, lasting learning happens when people teach and coach each other through real work, not when they passively consume theory in a classroom. * Every major change, even a “positive” one like a promotion, relocation, or becoming a parent, carries a form of grief and identity loss that leaders must recognize. * Leaders who step out of the spotlight and into a facilitator role create more ownership, more trust, and stronger cultures than traditional top-down trainers. * Peer-to-peer systems naturally build essential skills—listening, questioning, feedback—without labeling them as “skills training,” making the learning stickier and more authentic. * The goal of effective organizational coaching is to design environments and practices that allow teams to eventually self-coach, reducing dependence on external experts over time. "I believe that training is the dead horse, and we need a different way to develop and grow people." — Noa Ronen About Noa Ronen: Noa is a Master Certified Executive, Team, and Group Coach.  She has over 20 years of experience in Change Management, Human Resources, Leadership Development, Talent Development, and Coaching. Noa’s personal relocation experience shaped her perspective on what it means to be different and her passion for creating bridges between people and staying in a landscape of curiosity. She partners with fast-growing teams, companies, communities, and beyond to build peer-based systems that strengthen collaboration, trust, and alignment—at scale. She’s the author of Beyond Leadership: From AwareLess to AwareNess. In her personal time, Noa keeps meaningful connections by sipping a good cup of coffee at one of the locally owned coffee shops while writing or ideating, or going for a walk-and-talk with friends/family. Connect with Noa Ronen:   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noarcoach/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/noarcoach/]  Website: https://coachingconnection-on.com/ [https://coachingconnection-on.com/]  Book: https://www.amazon.com/BEyond-Leadership-AwareLess-AwareNess-Leader/dp/0578640732/ [https://www.amazon.com/BEyond-Leadership-AwareLess-AwareNess-Leader/dp/0578640732/]  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://betterpathtraining.com/ [https://betterpathtraining.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/] Audio production by https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/Turnkey Podcast Productions. [https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/] You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

1. heinä 202625 min
jakson Mitchell Levy: Building Parallel Six-Figure Businesses with Credibility and Clarity kansikuva

Mitchell Levy: Building Parallel Six-Figure Businesses with Credibility and Clarity

A seasoned entrepreneur who’s watched multiple six‑figure businesses go to zero—twice—shares how credibility, clarity, and servant leadership became his blueprint for rebuilding. This conversation tracks the journey from dot‑com busts and publishing shakeups to a new operating system for CEOs leading into the future. In this episode, Gary and Mitchell Levy discuss: * Career journey from Boston finance to Silicon Valley and Sun Microsystems * Dot‑com boom, dot‑bomb, and pivoting into CEO networking * Launching and scaling a hybrid publishing company, then surviving COVID and Amazon * Redefining credibility and creating the Credibility Nation and Executive Abundance frameworks * Ethical LinkedIn outreach, servant leadership, and integrity in business relationships Key Takeaways: * When markets shift, and a business collapses, it doesn’t mean you’ve failed; it often means the world changed, not your worth. * Running several smaller, parallel six‑figure ventures can create resilience and optionality compared to betting everything on a single play. * Real credibility lives at the intersection of being trusted, known, and liked, and it shows up as servant leadership, integrity, and respect. * Clarity of purpose, expressed in fewer than ten words, becomes a powerful filter for strategy, messaging, and who you choose to serve. * Sustainable leadership means creating abundance for all key stakeholders—self and family, employees, customers, investors, and community—not just shareholders. "Credibility is the quality in which you're trusted, known, and liked." — Mitchell Levy About Mitchell Levy: Mitchell Levy is a parallel entrepreneur, executive coach, and credibility expert who has built more than 20 businesses and written 65+ books, including Credibility Nation. After early roles in finance and systems work in Boston, he moved to Silicon Valley, spending nine years at Sun Microsystems during the commercialization of the internet before launching multiple six‑figure ventures in e‑commerce, executive education, CEO networking, and hybrid book publishing. Twice, market shocks wiped out thriving businesses—the dot‑com bust and later the one‑two punch of COVID and Amazon on publishing—cementing his philosophy of building multiple income streams and never confusing self‑worth with a balance sheet. His deep dive into what makes leaders truly believable led him to interview 500 thought leaders on credibility, define credibility as being “trusted, known, and liked,” and codify a set of values rooted in servant leadership, integrity, and respect. Today, Mitchell focuses on clarity and what he calls “executive abundance,” helping fast‑growing CEOs articulate their purpose in under 10 words and design companies that create value for five stakeholder groups: self and family, employees, customers, investors, and community. He also runs a LinkedIn agency for business owners “tired of slimy LinkedIn sales tactics,” and is currently pursuing a PhD to put academic rigor behind his frameworks for credibility, leadership, and stakeholder‑centric growth. Connect with Mitchell Levy:   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchelllevy/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchelllevy/]    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CredibilityNation [https://www.youtube.com/c/CredibilityNation]   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/happyabout [https://www.facebook.com/happyabout]  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://betterpathtraining.com/ [https://betterpathtraining.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/] Audio production by https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/Turnkey Podcast Productions. [https://www.turnkeypodcast.com/] You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

24. kesä 202640 min