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Accessibility Isn’t Enough: The Real Difference Between Inclusion and Belonging

1 h 17 min · 11. touko 2026
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Expect real talk on disability, mental health, and belonging—plus practical ways to improve accessibility, shift attitudes, and advocate without burning out in your life, work, and community. In this episode of Hindsight the Podcast, Lee Jones sits down with disability advocate and accessibility educator Jenna Udenberg to unpack her personal journey from juvenile rheumatoid arthritis and growing up in a wheelchair to leading meaningful disability advocacy focused on inclusion that goes beyond ramps and checklists. Jenna shares the “attitudinal barriers” people don’t see, how community support and faith helped her survive a dark season with suicidal thoughts, and why self-advocacy and interdependence are the real foundations of change. You’ll also hear the pivotal moments that shaped her advocacy work—including the Blandin retreat—and how she built Above and Beyond with You to push systemic change and create public spaces where people don’t just access them… they actually belong. Get to know Jenna at: https://www.aboveandbeyondwithu.org/ [https://www.aboveandbeyondwithu.org/] https://www.instagram.com/aboveandbeyondwithu/ [https://www.instagram.com/aboveandbeyondwithu/] https://www.facebook.com/ [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091881005060] Get MORE of Hindsight the Podcast: https://www.imlj.com [https://www.imlj.com] https://www.instagram.com/imleejones1/ [https://www.instagram.com/imleejones1/] https://x.com/imleejones/ [https://x.com/imleejones/] https://www.facebook.com/hindsightthepodcast [https://www.facebook.com/hindsightthepodcast]

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