LEO Round Table, June 12, 2026

LEO Round Table, June 12, 2026

LEO Round Table with Chip DeBlock S11E115, House Finally Passes Border Security Package And Now Heads To Trump’s Desk House finally passes border security package and now heads to Trump’s desk. Judge dismisses murder indictment against cop who killed unarmed man in 2015. Stalking suspect shot by police after he charged at officers with gun. Suspect fires shots into officer's car during PIT maneuver. Border Security Funding, LAPD Legal Fallout, and High-Risk Police Shootings Border Security Funding Finally Advances Chip DeBlock opens the episode by introducing Chief Ralph Ornelas and previewing several law enforcement stories, then begins with the House passage of a border security funding package. The discussion focuses on funding for ICE, Border Patrol, airport-related services, and TSA, with Chip arguing that delays harmed public safety and created unnecessary strain. Chief Ornelas agrees that border enforcement funding is needed and says he is proud of the Republican support for the measure. Both speakers frame the issue as one of national security, law enforcement support, and political accountability. Media Influence and Public Perception of ICE The conversation expands into the role of the media in shaping public attitudes toward ICE, border enforcement, and national security. Chief Ornelas says the media has made ICE appear to be an enemy and encourages people to read multiple sources and make independent decisions. Chip argues that a person’s news source often strongly predicts their views and criticizes commentators who, in his view, allow false narratives to go unchallenged. The segment keeps the discussion within the speakers’ perspectives and presents their political claims as commentary from the episode. Ex-LAPD Officer’s Murder Indictment Dismissed The next major segment examines a dismissed murder indictment against former LAPD officer Clifford Proctor in the 2015 shooting death of Brendon Glenn. Chip highlights the long delay between the 2015 incident and the 2024 indictment, the earlier refusal by former District Attorney Jackie Lacey to prosecute, and the later decision under George Gascon to pursue a murder charge after the statute of limitations for manslaughter had expired. Chief Ornelas discusses the political and prosecutorial history of the case, comparing its complexity to L.A. Confidential and commending the judge for repeatedly reviewing the video evidence before dismissing the indictment. Body Cameras, Prosecutorial Politics, and Force Review Chip and Chief Ornelas use the LAPD case to discuss body-camera evidence, video quality in 2015, and the changing expectations placed on officers in court. Chip notes that when body cameras first rolled out, many officers resisted them, but later saw them as useful in defending against accusations. Chief Ornelas explains that he had experience researching Axon body-worn cameras and reviewing force cases as a commander and chief. Both speakers emphasize the importance of careful video review, political context, and fair treatment of officers, deputies, agencies, and communities. Orange County Stalking Suspect Shot by Deputies The episode then turns to an Orange County case in which deputies shot an armed stalking suspect after he allegedly approached a residence connected to a woman he was obsessed with. Chip describes Ring doorbell footage showing the suspect with a gun, the boyfriend’s confrontation at the door, the 911 call, and the later traffic stop that turned into a short pursuit. Chief Ornelas analyzes the tactics, criticizing the lead deputy for not exiting the patrol car quickly enough and stressing the importance of getting out of the vehicle, creating distance, and preparing for a suspect to bail out. He also praises the deputies’ calm response, crossfire awareness, and post-shooting control. Missouri PIT Maneuver Turns Into a Gunfight The final major story involves a homicide suspect in Missouri who fired shots at a State Trooper during a PIT maneuver. Chip describes the original shooting call, the pursuit by multiple agencies, and Corporal Brandon Harris moving to the front to conduct the PIT. During the maneuver, the suspect fired through the trooper’s vehicle, with one round passing dangerously close to the trooper’s head. Chief Ornelas praises Corporal Harris for his performance and questions why other agencies did not conduct the PIT themselves. The episode closes with Chip thanking Chief Ornelas, promoting The Wounded Blue, naming the sponsors, and inviting viewers back for the next live show.

LEO Round Table, June 11, 2026

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LEO Round Table, June 10, 2026

S11E113, 70 Billion Dollar Immigration Bill Passes The Senate Cementing A Huge Victory For Trump $70B immigration bill passes the senate cementing a huge victory for Trump. Paramedics convictions reversed in the death of Elijah McClain. Father who killed daughter's alleged molester has charges dismissed. **Six-Paragraph Summary** Senate Immigration Funding Victory The episode begins with discussion of the Senate passing a $70 billion immigration funding bill providing resources for ICE and Border Patrol for the next three years through the end of President Trump’s term. The hosts celebrate the vote as a major win after months of delays tied to unrelated political disputes. They criticize congressional opponents for using unrelated issues as leverage and express hope that the House will approve the measure soon while noting persistent challenges from some Republicans. Colorado Paramedics Ketamine Convictions Reversed The hosts cover the reversal of homicide convictions for two Aurora paramedics who administered ketamine to Elijah McClain during a 2019 incident. The appeals court found issues with jury instructions on the criminally negligent homicide charges, sending the case back for potential retrial on that count while upholding one assault conviction. Discussion highlights political hostility toward police in Colorado, the medical debate around excited delirium, and the challenges first responders face when tools like ketamine are restricted after high-profile cases. Hero Dad Charges Dismissed in Molester Shooting A judge dismissed murder charges against Aaron Spencer, who shot and killed Michael Fosler after catching him with Spencer’s 13-year-old daughter. The dismissal stemmed from Lonoke County Sheriff’s Office mishandling of key evidence, including a dashcam memory card, violating due process. The case involved Fosler, previously charged with multiple child sex crimes, being released on bond before the confrontation where Spencer intervened in what appeared to be a kidnapping in progress. Tactical and Political Commentary on Cases Chief Schulte provides insights on the McClain case, emphasizing Aurora’s high-crime environment and systemic anti-police sentiment in Colorado politics. He stresses the reality of excited delirium as a medical emergency and criticizes the removal of law enforcement tools based on singular incidents. On the Spencer case, he distinguishes civilian self-defense and intervention rules from police standards, expressing disappointment that charges were dismissed on a technicality rather than merits. Broader Law Enforcement Challenges Discussed The conversation addresses recurring narratives around police use of force, referencing cases like Michael Brown and George Floyd, and laments unchallenged media rhetoric. Hosts discuss the difficulties first responders face when political pressure leads to loss of tools and increased hesitation on calls. They also note the personal toll on officers involved in controversial incidents and the need for objective jury evaluations free from political influence. Show Wrap and Sponsor Mentions The hosts thank Dr. Joel Schulte for his expertise and encourage listeners to support The Wounded Blue organization. They promote sponsors including Galls, Complete Technologies, GunLearn, and others while reminding viewers of the show’s availability across platforms. The episode concludes by noting the value of candid discussion on these topics and promotes the next live show. **SEO Keywords / Key Phrases** Senate $70 billion immigration bill, border security funding victory, Elijah McClain ketamine convictions reversed, Aurora paramedics new trial, Aaron Spencer dad dismisses murder charges, Lonoke County sheriff candidate, excited delirium ketamine use, police use of force narratives, Colorado anti police legislation, father intervenes daughter molester

LEO Round Table, June 9, 2026

S11E112, 14-Hour Standoff Ends With Dead Bad Guy And No Innocent Lives Lost 14-hour standoff ends with dead bad guy and no innocent lives lost. Officer arrested for stealing $10K from a deceased man. Man shot after throwing Molotov cocktails and stabbed K-9. Cop arrested after allegedly pointing firearm at officer for microwaving fish. Woman armed with a knife fatally shot. Woman holding glass object shot dead by officers. **Six-Paragraph Summary** Bakersfield Hostage Crisis Resolution The episode opens with detailed coverage of a 14-hour hostage standoff at a Chase bank complex in Bakersfield, California, involving a bomb threat, eight hostages, and an armed suspect. Negotiators secured the release of hostages unharmed before the FBI engaged and fatally shot the suspect who refused to surrender. The hosts praise the inter-agency cooperation and patient approach as excellent training and a successful outcome with no innocent lives lost. Bad Cop Credit Card Theft Case A young Haines City police officer, Jeffrey Ziegler, was arrested by Polk County Sheriff’s Office for stealing over $10,000 using credit cards belonging to a deceased man he lived with through his girlfriend. The fraud went undetected for nearly two years until family members discovered past-due notices. Sheriff Grady Judd expressed strong disapproval, noting the theft permanently ends Ziegler’s law enforcement career after his immediate resignation. Grand Rapids Police Shooting of Armed Suspect Grand Rapids officers responded to a 911 call from a mother about her son threatening the family with knives and possible suicide. After prolonged negotiations, the suspect threw a Molotov cocktail at a police cruiser, attempted carjacking, and stabbed a police canine. Despite multiple less-lethal deployments, officers used lethal force when he charged with a knife, resulting in the suspect’s death. The guest critiques tactical positioning and over-reliance on less-lethal options. Microwave Fish Officer Incident A Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, police detective was arrested and fired after allegedly pointing his department-issued firearm at a fellow officer who was reheating fish in the department microwave, causing an odor complaint. The felony charge involves pointing and presenting a firearm. Both hosts express disbelief at the escalation over a workplace lunch dispute. Two Female Bathroom Deadly Force Videos The show reviews two body camera incidents. In Miami-Dade, deputies responded to a woman locked in a bathroom who had cut herself; she emerged with a raised knife and was shot after a taser deployment. In Louisville, officers and firefighters responded to a suicidal woman who exited the bathroom armed with broken porcelain and charged, leading to fatal shots. Discussion focuses on mental health crises, close-quarters threats, and lethal versus less-lethal decisions. Guest Commentary and Show Close Scott Steyer provides tactical insights on the Grand Rapids incident and broader use-of-force considerations, emphasizing the need for lethal cover when less-lethal is deployed. The hosts discuss public faith in institutions, FBI reforms, and sponsor promotions before closing the episode and promoting the next live show. **SEO Keywords / Key Phrases** Bakersfield hostage standoff, FBI officer involved shooting, Haines City police officer arrested, stealing from dead man, Grand Rapids police Molotov cocktail, police canine stabbed, Miami Dade deputy shoots woman with knife, Louisville police bathroom shooting, officer points gun over microwaved fish, law enforcement talk show use of force

LEO Round Table, June 8, 2026

LEO Round Table with Chip DeBlock S11E111, Florida Puts The Hammer Down On Thugs Who Target Police Dogs And Horses Florida puts the hammer down on thugs who target police dogs and horses. Death of Henry Nowak overseas sparks worldwide policing debate. Florida man in G-string arrested for thrusting at doorbell camera. Naked man who assaulted multiple people fatally shot by officer. Ex-trooper sentenced in death of child during pursuit of suspect. Protecting Police Animals, Policing Under Pressure, and Use-of-Force Judgment Calls Chip DeBlock Opens LEO Roundtable In this episode of LEO Roundtable, host Chip DeBlock welcomes the panel of law enforcement professionals, including Dr. Travis Yates, retired Tulsa Police Major; Lieutenant Randy Sutton, founder of The Wounded Blue; and Officer Danny King. Chip previews the day’s topics, including proposed protections for police animals, a controversial case from England, Florida indecent-exposure allegations, officer-involved shootings involving nude or mentally distressed suspects, a police workplace firearm incident, qualified immunity, and other law enforcement-related news. Senator Ashley Moody’s Police Animal Protection Bill The first major discussion centers on Florida Senator Ashley Moody’s proposed LEO Canine Protection Act, which would increase penalties for people who intentionally harm or kill federal police dogs or horses. Chip explains that the bill is named in honor of K-9 Leo, a fallen deputy canine from Marion County, Florida, and that a companion bill has been introduced in the House. The panel supports stronger protections for law enforcement animals and discusses how canines and horses help with apprehensions, searches, narcotics, explosives, crowd control, and public safety. Medical Transport and the Limits of Protecting K-9s Chip also notes that the bill would authorize emergency medical providers to transport injured law enforcement animals to medical facilities at their discretion. This leads into a broader discussion of how police animals are legally treated. Chip explains that while harming a K-9 can carry enhanced penalties, officers generally cannot use deadly force solely to protect a police dog because the animal is often legally treated as property. The panel discusses the tension between how officers emotionally and operationally view K-9 partners and how the law actually classifies them. England Case and Politics Over Policing Lieutenant Randy Sutton brings up a case from England involving a young white male who was stabbed and, according to Randy’s description, did not receive proper help from responding police. Randy argues that the case reflects a broader problem of politics overriding policing, especially when laws or policies treat people differently based on race. The panel connects this to concerns in the United States, saying some modern policing reforms are designed more around political pressure than practical public safety. Travis Yates and Danny King broaden the discussion to officer assaults, race narratives, de-escalation training, and the effects of reform movements on policing. Florida Man in a G-String Arrested After Doorbell Camera Incident The show then shifts to a lighter but bizarre Florida story. Chip describes a 79-year-old man accused of exposing himself to neighbors and thrusting at a doorbell camera while wearing a G-string thong. According to the discussion, neighbors had complained about repeated behavior in common areas, and the man allegedly confronted a responding officer while still dressed in the G-string. The panel treats the story with humor while noting that the man faced multiple indecent-exposure and lewd-behavior charges. Louisville Police Shooting of Naked Assault Suspect The most serious use-of-force discussion involves a Louisville Metro Police shooting of a naked man who had reportedly assaulted multiple people. Chip explains that the man was not visibly armed, but was sitting in the street, showing only one hand at a time, then stood up and walked toward the officer despite repeated commands to stop and show his hands. The officer shot him, and the panel discusses whether the shooting may still be legally and tactically defensible despite the man being nude and apparently unarmed. Use-of-Force Analysis and Officer Expectations Officer Danny King emphasizes that the officer was responding to reports of violence, possible weapons, and assaults, and that the suspect closed distance while failing to comply. Travis Yates argues that police leaders and reform movements often expect officers to perform unrealistic “Superman” actions in high-stress encounters. The panel notes that if an officer already has a gun drawn and a suspect closes distance, the officer may not have time to holster and go hands-on without risking a fight over the firearm. Randy Sutton adds that drug intoxication, excited delirium-type behavior, or extreme mental crisis may be relevant factors, even if not yet confirmed. New York Trooper Sentenced After Thruway Crash The panel also discusses former New York State Trooper Christopher Baldner, who was sentenced after a 2020 Thruway crash that killed 11-year-old Monica Goods. The transcript explains that the father, Tristin Goods, had been stopped while driving at high speed, was pepper-sprayed during the encounter, then drove away. Baldner pursued and rammed the vehicle, with the second impact causing the crash that killed the child. Danny King says he is confused that the father was not charged, since he fled with his family in the car. Randy Sutton calls the outcome another example of an officer being sacrificed politically. Closing and Wounded Blue Summit The episode closes with Chip thanking the panel and sponsors. Randy Sutton also promotes The Wounded Blue’s National Law Enforcement Survival Summit, scheduled for September in Las Vegas, and says Dr. Travis Yates will be one of the featured speakers. Chip ends by directing listeners back to LEO Roundtable and its sponsors, closing out another law-enforcement-focused discussion of policy, officer safety, public perception, and difficult real-world police decisions.