Finding Hope on the Spectrum
Brooke hosts an episode of “Finding Hope on the Spectrum” on art therapy with board-certified art therapist and RDI consultant Christine “Kiki,” and guests Debbie Zimmer and her 22-year-old son Ben. Kiki explains how she was drawn to art therapy, how RDI deepened her work through parent involvement, and clarifies misconceptions by distinguishing “art as therapy” from clinical art therapy with a trained mental health professional as a guide and witness. She describes focusing on process over product, observing engagement and family dynamics, and tailoring art materials to sensory and physical needs to support regulation, communication, and growth. Ben shares via his AAC device how art helps him move from frustration to calm, choose colors/tools, and give, sell, or keep his work. Debbie describes Ben’s post-COVID and post-surgery challenges, how art therapy improved family support, confidence, vocabulary, wellbeing, and led to exhibitions, community classes, commissions, and broader family connection through art. 00:00 Art Heals Without Therapy 00:53 Podcast Welcome and Guests 02:54 Kiki Origin Story 06:39 RDI Meets Art Therapy 09:29 Art Therapy Myths 13:08 Not Artistic No Problem 15:32 Brain and Nervous System 17:51 Why It Helps Autism 20:32 Sensory Smart Materials 24:56 Communication and Agency 27:43 Coping Through Sensory Discomfort 28:13 Strength Building With Art 29:28 Ben Joins The Conversation 30:07 Ben Shares His Art Story 31:36 Debbie Preps Ben’s Message 33:31 Before Art Therapy Challenges 34:47 Why They Tried Art Therapy 35:50 Mom’s Mindset Shift 38:31 Art Show Breakthrough 41:06 Confidence And Communication Gains 42:42 Regulation And Wellbeing 43:50 Family Connection Through Art 45:49 Advice For Unsure Parents 49:10 Village Support And Collaboration 52:18 Finding Art Therapy Resources 53:52 Final Thanks And Goodbye Connect with Finding Hope on the Spectrum: www.findinghopeonthespectrum.com Email: bwagner@findinghopeonthespectrum.com [bwagner@findinghopeonthespectrum.com] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574918739411 [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574918739411] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brooke-wagner-4819233a/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brooke-wagner-4819233a/] Instagram: @findinghopeonthespectrum TikTok: Findinghopeonthespectrum Guest Contact: www.tagforgrowth.com [http://www.tagforgrowth.com] Resources: https://atcb.org/ [https://atcb.org/]
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