Generations (Talking 'bout My Sports...)
S4 E15 - An Oral History of the New York Knicks — 50 Years of Heartbreak, Bad Drafts & James Dolan | Generations
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Mark is a tortured Knicks fan. He has been for decades. And this week, he finally gets to tell the whole story. From the championship Knicks of Clyde Frazier, Willis Reed, and Dollar Bill Bradley — the consummate team that Steve watched dominate with roles and passing and smart basketball — all the way to Jalen Brunson giving New York a reason to care again. Everything in between is a masterclass in being close enough to hurt, but never close enough to win. THE ERAS, THE HEARTBREAKS & THE MOMENTS Patrick Ewing arrives in 1985. The Knicks are relevant again. The problem? Jordan. The Celtics. The Lakers. The timing was always just slightly off. 1994 Finals. John Starks. Two for eighteen in Game 7. Mark's defense of Starks is thorough, data-driven, and genuinely compelling — the man had just come back from knee surgery and was the only shooter on the roster. Herb Williams was 35 going on 53. Tony Campbell was somehow still in the league. The offensive depth was nonexistent. Riley probably should have gone to Rolando Blackman. He didn't. The Rockets won. Reggie Miller and eight points in nine seconds. The wound that never fully healed. Patrick Ewing's missed finger roll against the Pacers in 1995. His legs were shot. The ball hit the back of the rim and came out. Mark was the angriest he's ever been as a Knicks fan. The PJ Brown/Charlie Ward brawl in Miami — the fight that created the rule preventing players from leaving the bench. The Knicks got the worst of the suspensions. John Starks gave the Miami crowd the finger. Mark saved that New York Post edition. Larry Johnson's four-point play against the Pacers in 1999. The rare moment something actually went right. The lockout season run to the Finals as an 8-seed. Alan Houston's floater against the Heat. The Spurs ended it. THE DRAFT DISASTERS A full tour through Knicks draft history — the misses, the near-misses, and the guys who became All-Stars somewhere else: * Frederic Weis instead of Ron Artest — drafted 12th while Artest went 11th, then became famous as the man Vince Carter jumped entirely over at the Olympics * LaMarcus Aldridge and Joakim Noah surrendered in the Eddie Curry trade * Michael Sweetney instead of David West or Boris Diaw * Frank Ntilikina instead of Donovan Mitchell * Five power forwards signed in one offseason — Julius Randle, Marcus Morris, Taj Gibson, Bobby Portis, and Mitchell Robinson all on the same team THE JAMES DOLAN MICHAEL SCOTT GAME Mark runs Jonathan and Steve through a game: is this situation more like James Dolan or Michael Scott? The answers are funnier than they should be. Confidently sticking with a failing plan — Dolan. Responding to criticism and making it worse — Dolan. Charles Oakley removed from Madison Square Garden. The email to a fan telling him to root for the Nets. The triangle offense era. Phil Jackson. $50 million. The vibes-based leadership approach — also Dolan, because he has a band. DID HE EVER WEAR A KNICKS JERSEY? A rapid-fire game covering Chauncey Billups, Derek Rose, Baron Davis, Steve Francis, Stephon Marbury, Jason Kidd, Tyson Chandler, Rasheed Wallace, Kemba Walker, Evan Fournier, and Derek Fisher — who has 259 career playoff appearances, second only to LeBron, and was only ever a Knicks coach, never a player. WHERE IT STANDS Brunson made it cool to come to New York again. Josh Hart wears number 3 like Starks. The culture is back. The team is good. Are they a championship team? That's a different question — and the Hawks are currently making it painful all over again, one point at a time, in ways that feel exactly like 1994, 1995, and every bad Knicks moment in between. Jonathan closes it perfectly: he roots for the Knicks in the playoffs because he wants Mark to be happy. That's what thirty years of Raider fandom does to a person. #NewYorkKnicks #PatrickEwing #JohnStarks #JamesDolan #NBA #GenerationsPodcast #OralHistory #MadisonSquareGarden #JalenBrunson #ReggieMiller #SportsPodcast #NBAHistory #Linsanity #PhilJackson
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