Ep. 78: When 'Blind Faith' Becomes Uncertainty

Ep. 83: Therapist Breakup & Learning to Trust Yourself with Liz Glazer

Liz Glazer spent years doing everything right: law school, a philosophy degree, a tenured law professorship, and a stable career path. Then she discovered stand-up comedy and began questioning whether success and fulfillment were actually the same thing. In this episode, Liz shares how therapy, sobriety, recovery programs, and nearly two decades of self-reflection helped her learn to trust her own judgment. Together, we explore intuition, major life pivots, ending a 19-year therapy relationship, and how to know when it's finally time to choose a different path. Bio: Liz Glazer is an award-winning standup comedian, actor, and writer known for her smart, personal comedy. Her new special, Do You Know Who I’m Not?, is streaming on YouTube. She has appeared on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, Don’t Tell Comedy, and The Showcase, and opened for Maria Bamford and Judy Gold. Liz won first place at the Boston Comedy Festival and Ladies of Laughter, and was profiled in The Wall Street Journal. As an actor, Liz has appeared on ABC's For Life and CBS's BULL, and teaches at Lesly Kahn & Co. She is currently developing a TV pilot based on her life, which was a Stage 32 semi-finalist. Before comedy, Liz was a tenured law professor at Hofstra Law. She earned her BA/MA from UPenn, her JD from the University of Chicago Law School (serving on Law Review), practiced real estate law at Fried Frank, and published scholarship in top journals like the Georgetown Law Journal. Liz's Social Media: @LizGlazer Liz's Website: https://www.dearlizglazer.com/ * 00:00 Into the Mud: Intro * 01:09 Comedy, Academia, and Netflix * 02:23 Law Professor to Stand-Up: The Not-So-Classic Route * 05:22 Finding Comedy in Chicago * 08:23 Standup for Lawyers and Sex Educators * 09:43 Coming Out & Discovering Comedy's Call * 10:03 The Knowing: Trusting Yourself with Big Decisions * 12:13 Signs, Journals, and When to Leap * 14:04 The Nine-Year Exit: Quitting with a Plan * 18:11 Buffers, Health Insurance, and Rolling into Standup * 21:38 Supporting Your Craft without Starving * 22:48 The Voice Inside: Intuition, Timing & Feeling * 25:11 Buffer Time: Therapy, Debt, and Getting Better * 27:27 Sobriety, Self-Trust, and Program Life * 30:29 Dropping Bad Habits: From Stalking Instagrams to Small Choices * 32:08 Sober Decisions: Controlled Experiments and Instinct * 38:07 Ending Therapy: Tennis, Growth, and Letting Go * 44:00 Facing the Last Session: Nerves and Readiness * 46:02 What Happens When Therapy Ends? * 49:07 85% Over the Net: Trust, Growth, and Mystery * 50:17 Wrapping Up: Mutual Admiration and Tennis Jokes * 51:06 Final Credits & Where to Follow Follow along at @IntoTheMudPodcast on all platforms! For the visual version, follow along on YouTube! Your Hosts: Alex Kumin (@Alex.Kumin) and Drew King (@DrewKingNYC).  Contributing Editors: Manthan Baldha, Sarah Webb (@SWAudioPost) and Drew King. Filmed and recorded at @TheMalin in New York City. www.IntoTheMudPodcast.com

Ep. 82: Getting Older Is Actually the Best Part with Emil Cohen

DJ, photographer, and Mother Disco co-creator Emil Cohen joins Into the Mud for a conversation about aging, queer joy, disco culture, chosen family, and why getting older might actually be the best part. From body image, therapy, nightlife, and nostalgia to queer history, community building, parenting, and the pressure to stay young, this episode explores what it means to grow older as a queer person while creating spaces rooted in music, connection, and joy. Bio: Emil Cohen is a New York-based artist, photographer, DJ, and co-creator of Mother Disco, the beloved queer dance party celebrating disco and community. Born and raised in Canada and the United States, Emil holds an MFA in fine arts from the School of the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston at Tufts University. He is a staff photographer for the New York City Council. As an artist, his photographs have been featured in group exhibitions across the United States and in solo exhibitions. Most recently, he was named by Logo TV as one of their 2022 Logo30 Honorees. Selected clients and publications include Todd Snyder, The New York Times, Town and Country, People Magazine, The Hollywood Reporter, Out Magazine and many more. He is a proud New York, Queer, Jew. Emil's Social Media: www.EmilCohenPhotography.com, @EmilCohen. Follow along at @IntoTheMudPodcast on all platforms! For the visual version, follow along on YouTube! Your Hosts: Alex Kumin (@Alex.Kumin) and Drew King (@DrewKingNYC).  Contributing Editors: Manthan Baldha, Sarah Webb (@SWAudioPost) and Drew King. Filmed and recorded at @TheMalin in New York City. www.IntoTheMudPodcast.com

Ep. 81: The Superpower of Feeling Alien with Project Hail Mary's James Ortiz

James Ortiz, the actor and puppeteer behind Rocky in Project Hail Mary alongside Ryan Gosling, joins Into the Mud for a conversation about identity, creativity, and what it means to feel “alien” in your own life. From queer identity and imposter syndrome to artistry, puppetry, belonging, and the pressure to fit into society’s expectations, James opens up about embracing the parts of himself that once made him feel different. The conversation explores creative insecurity, authenticity, feeling out of place in your career or community, and why “weird” people often become the most fully realized versions of themselves. Plus: behind-the-scenes stories from Project Hail Mary, working with Ryan Gosling, building Rocky through puppetry and improv, and why worrying about being “cringe” might be holding you back from your real life.  Bio: Based in New York City, James Ortiz is a designer, performer, playwright, and director best known for his award-winning puppetry work. He won the 2022 Drama Desk Award for the massive dinosaur puppets in The Skin of Our Teeth at Lincoln Center, and stars as Rocky in the blockbuster film Project Hail Mary from Amazon MGM Studios. His interpretation of Milky White in the 2022 Broadway revival of Into the Woods became a viral fan favorite. James is also widely recognized for creating The Woodsman, which earned him a 2016 OBIE Award for puppet design and was later filmed for PBS and released on BroadwayHD. His work has appeared at major institutions including The Public Theater, Hartford Stage, Paper Mill Playhouse, Yale Repertory Theatre, The Kennedy Center, and Ars Nova. A recipient of the 2017 Eugene O’Neill residency and multiple Jim Henson Foundation grants, James is also the co-founder and co-artistic director of Strangemen & Co.. His work continues to blend movement, theatricality, and innovative puppetry across stage and screen. James' Social Media: @JortFace, www.JamesOrtiz.co Follow along at @IntoTheMudPodcast on all platforms! For the visual version, follow along on YouTube! Your Hosts: Alex Kumin (@Alex.Kumin) and Drew King (@DrewKingNYC).  Contributing Editors: Manthan Baldha, Sarah Webb (@SWAudioPost) and Drew King. Filmed and recorded at @TheMalin in New York City. www.IntoTheMudPodcast.com

Ep. 80: The Exhaustion of 'Taking the High Road' with Mykal Kilgore

Emmy-nominated artist Mykal Kilgore joins Into the Mud for a raw, unfiltered conversation about the emotional toll of always taking the high road. From growing up in a strict religious environment to navigating Broadway, the music industry, and public scrutiny, Mykal unpacks the pressure to be exceptional, likable, and silent in the face of disrespect. This episode dives into identity, power dynamics, systemic inequality, and the breaking point of “being the bigger person” in a world that doesn’t always reward integrity. If you’ve ever felt exhausted from doing the right thing while others get away with everything, this one hits deep.  Bio: Mykal Kilgore is an Emmy-nominated and Grammy-nominated singer, songwriter, and Broadway performer known for his powerhouse vocals and dynamic stage presence. He made history as the first openly gay artist nominated in the Traditional R&B Performance category at the Grammys and has appeared in major productions including Motown: The Musical, Hair, and The Book of Mormon, as well as NBC’s The Wiz Live!. A sought-after live performer, he has taken the stage at events like the Met Gala and continues to build a multifaceted career across music, theater, and television. Mykal is celebrated not only for his talent, but for his fearless voice, advocacy, and commitment to truth both on and off stage.  Mykal's Social Media: @MykalKilgore. Follow along at @IntoTheMudPodcast on all platforms! For the visual version, follow along on YouTube! Your Hosts: Alex Kumin (@Alex.Kumin) and Drew King (@DrewKingNYC).  Contributing Editors: Manthan Baldha, Sarah Webb (@SWAudioPost) and Drew King. Filmed and recorded at @TheMalin in New York City. www.IntoTheMudPodcast.com

Ep. 79: Addicted to Escapism with Ren McAslan

What does it actually mean to be addicted to escapism? Writer and Emmy-nominated storyteller Ren McAslan breaks down the nine types of escapism, from work and relationships to media, sex, and substance use, and how constant distraction is reshaping our ability to sit with ourselves. This episode explores trauma, shame, addiction, and the uncomfortable truth that the things we use to cope might be keeping us disconnected from our own lives. Bio: Renwick McAslan is an Emmy-nominated, London-born, NYC-based writer.  By day, the 36 year old works as a Creative Director in Ad-Land but works on numerous creative projects on the side, including film / TV and has recently-finished his first novel, Come Undone.  This August he’s also taking his debut solo-written, one-woman show, Woman Seeking Cuddles to the world-renowned Edinburgh Fringe Festival.  His hobbies include getting punched in the face (he’s a keen boxer).  Ren's Social Media: @RenwMcas, www.RenMcAslan.com Follow along at @IntoTheMudPodcast on all platforms! For the visual version, follow along on YouTube! Your Hosts: Alex Kumin (@Alex.Kumin) and Drew King (@DrewKingNYC).  Contributing Editors: Manthan Baldha, Sarah Webb (@SWAudioPost) and Drew King. Filmed and recorded at @TheMalin in New York City. www.IntoTheMudPodcast.com