Post-Peru Reflections

90's Parties and Crime Fighting

A ’90s Party, AI Anxiety, and an Unexpected Brushfire Bust Joy and Claire chat about the fast passage of time, a full moon, and Claire’s ’90s outfit for a decades-themed 40th birthday party—complete with butterfly clips, a choker and mini backpack borrowed from her daughter—sparking nostalgia about music, school routines, and teen insecurities. They discuss aging and appearance pressures amplified by phones, Zoom, Botox, facelifts, and celebrity standards, plus skepticism about gurus after a flawed Stacey Sims hydration take. The conversation turns to AI: fears, a papal critique, productivity benefits, data-center controversies, and how AI accelerates workplace expectations. Claire shares a Moab encounter with an engineer connected to the James Webb Space Telescope, highlighting creativity in STEM. Joy recounts spotting and reporting an arsonist starting a brush fire near I-25, leading to an arrest. They close with product notes (Act&Acre hard water shampoo, sun gloves, ORLY breathable polish, Ilia SPF skin tint). 00:00 Welcome and June Time Warp 00:53 Full Moon and 40th Party 01:21 Clueless Outfit Breakdown 03:50 Reunions and Disposable Cameras 06:10 90s Bedrooms and Bunk Beds 07:46 90s Routines and Hair Hacks 10:02 Chumbawamba Grasslands Story 11:13 Teen Insecurities Then Now 13:20 Mirrors Phones and Zoom Face 16:02 Facelifts Ozempic and Gurus 18:18 Hydration Myth and Electrolytes 19:45 Commercialization and GLP-1 Talk 20:30 Pharma Ads Culture Shock 21:15 AI Anxiety and The Pope 22:47 AI at Work and Data Centers 27:35 Moab Ice Cream NASA Encounter 34:55 Arsonist Spotted and 911 Call 41:23 Rec Center Fitness Reset 42:37 Products and Pet Peeves 47:41 Wrap Up and Goodbye

Jellycats, Community Cliques, and Redefining Normality

Memorial Day Plans, Jellycat Shopping, and the GLP-1 Cultural Debate Joy and Claire catch up over Memorial Day weekend, sharing family activities in Moab, recurring McDonald’s order mishaps, an e-bike picnic, paddleboarding plans, and a quick Arizona trip for a friend’s daughter’s high school graduation. They discuss the cliquey dynamics of making friends in a Utah town with a strong LDS subculture plus humorous travel stories including a seatmate chewing tobacco on a plane. A highlight is Scott’s Chicago shopping spree at a Jellycat store, buying a sold-out grumpy turtle for Miles. They then address Instagram responses about GLP-1 medications, emphasizing benefits for metabolic health while criticizing cultural trends toward extreme weight loss, unsafe normalization, marketing, and stigma. They end with favorite products: Theraface red-light mask, ILIA makeup, and the Intake nose opener. 00:00 Memorial Day Catchup 00:34 Makeup At 7 AM 01:05 McDonalds Order Chaos 03:02 Park Picnic And Paddleboard 03:40 Arizona Graduation Trip 05:46 Hibachi And Choir Memories 08:29 Mormon Town Culture Shock 10:52 Making Friends In Moab 14:02 Jellycat Store Adventure 20:59 Library Pets And Dog Tales 23:21 Brandon Phone Jump Scares 24:19 Gross Plane Seatmate Story 25:47 Travel Brings Out Weirdness 28:26 Short Person Overhead Bag Hack 29:21 GLP-1 Nuance Not Judgment 33:51 Culture Shift Toward Waif Era 38:27 Health First Not Weight Loss 40:17 Marketing Profits and Safety Concerns 44:27 Vitamins Malnutrition and Hair Loss 45:57 Favorite Products and Wrap Up

Lenet Rivas on Building Wealth

Blue Otter Financial Planning: [https://www.blueotterfinancialplanning.com/] Joy and Claire welcome back Lenet Rivas to discuss her new business, Blue Otter Financial Planning, launched after a layoff and inspired by conversations at a Surf with Amigas retreat. Lenet shares her background in financial aid at Emory, then Fidelity and investment management, and explains leaving product- and target-driven models to offer flat-fee planning for people—especially women—who don’t meet typical $500K asset minimums. They discuss consolidating scattered old employer 401(k)s into an IRA, aligning investments with risk tolerance and time horizon, and how target-date funds often default people into mismatched allocations; Joy describes gaining confidence, discovering a pension, and improving results after adjusting investments. The episode also covers money shame, patriarchy in finance, spending vs. saving mindset, and practical questions to ask parents about estate plans, accounts, and wills. 00:00 Meet Lenet and Blue Otter 01:19 From Taxes to Entrepreneurship 04:15 The Retreat Seed and Layoff Leap 06:51 Traveling While Building the Plan 09:40 Who Blue Otter Serves 13:33 Joy’s Account Consolidation Win 15:28 Money Fear and the KFC Analogy 22:01 Fixing Default 401k Investments 27:05 Target Date Funds vs ETFs 28:22 Confidence to Manage Your 401k 29:13 Fix Your 401k Mix 29:42 Shame And Money Talk 31:28 Beating The Patriarchy 33:20 From Saving To Spending 36:16 Facing The Real Numbers 40:37 Family Money Planning 42:26 Questions For Parents 47:39 How To Work Together 49:50 Why Blue Otter 52:18 Coffee Cart Dreams 53:58 Where To Find Lenet 54:22 Final Wrap And Goodbye

Turn In & Travel Plans

Mother’s Day on the Green River, Moab Race Meetup, and Puppy Turn-In Updates Joy and Claire chat about early wake-ups, airline announcements, and pilot “too much detail” stories. They share Mother’s Day plans to float the Green River “Daily” near Moab and discuss refining their rafting boat packing system. From their Peru group chat, they float the idea of an unofficial Moab meet-up around a trail race weekend (15K, half, marathon, 50K) and advise booking hotels over pricey Airbnbs, noting the April 24, 2027 date. They discuss nostalgia for No Doubt, a gory dark-comedy film “Send Help” starring Rachel McAdams and directed by Sam Raimi, and Joy finishing the climbing docuseries “The Dark Wizard.” Joy previews Lilas' upcoming CCI puppy turn-in, talks puppy-raising realities and grief, answers Q&A on Mind Pump, finding a workplace mentor, and dog toy recommendations for strong chewers. 00:00 Podcast Welcome 00:47 Pilot Oversharing Stories 03:04 Listening In Flight 03:49 Flight Tracking Anxiety 05:01 Pentagon Twin Day 06:16 Mothers Day Float Plan 08:30 Rafting Gear Systems 10:14 Moab Race Meetup Idea 13:09 Where To Stay In Moab 15:19 No Doubt Nostalgia 17:24 Send Help Movie Review 19:40 Dark Wizard Doc Update 21:21 Climbing Doc Obsession 23:18 Leila Turn In Emotions 26:30 Service Dog Reality Check 28:20 Haynes Toy Chase Antics 30:46 Puppy Raising Community 32:17 Mind Pump Bros Take 34:55 Finding Work Mentors 39:12 Toys For Strong Chewers 44:17 Moab Meetup And Wrap

What We're Watching & Reading

Social Media Breaks, Peru Reset, and What We’re Watching & Reading Claire and Joy open with Arrested Development jokes and then discuss how meme culture and news consumption feel bleak, leading Joy to describe a mental-health-improving Peru “hard reset” of staying off social media, avoiding push notifications, and getting news from traditional outlets instead. They reflect on feeling helpless about Supreme Court decisions and on social media outrage/cancel culture, citing “Therapy Jeff” and mentioning Mel Robbins. Claire shares family updates, including Evie’s Beauty and the Beast dance recital and Miles’ extra energy now that he’s between sports, plus a chat about slow unpacking and liking Away luggage. They recommend HBO’s climbing docuseries “The Dark Wizard” about Dean Potter, discuss Lena Dunham’s memoir and Girls, and Claire lists recent fiction reads while panning The Comfort Crisis, before plugging their Instagram, TikTok, and email. 00:00 Welcome and Hop Ons 00:22 Arrested Development Quotes 01:39 Meme Days Check In 02:21 Social Media Detox 03:54 Supreme Court Spiral 06:47 Peru Airplane Mode 08:16 Therapy Influencer Drama 11:28 Dance Recital Chaos 15:28 Post Trip Unpacking 17:44 Away Luggage and Points 19:37 Dark Wizard Docuseries 22:20 Climbing Subculture World 23:51 Climbing Brotherhood 24:20 Rivalry and Territorialism 25:24 Dean vs Alex Debate 26:02 El Cap Ethics 27:30 Watching Free Solo 29:11 Series Recommendation 29:32 Lena Dunham Memoir 33:15 Girls Fame Fallout 37:25 Fiction Book Picks 39:20 Comfort Crisis Rant 42:37 More Reads and Wrap 43:15 Social Media Goodbye