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How a Tech Co-Owner Invested in Real Estate on the Side for 14 Years Then Went Full Time — With Neal Bawa

41 min · 16 de abr de 2026
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Neal Bawa was paying nearly 50% of his tech salary in taxes. So he got into real estate to save them. Then he got addicted to it. Today he manages a $600M+ portfolio with 1,300 accredited investors — using data science and AI where most operators rely on gut instinct. Neal Bawa | Multifamily U --- How He Built a Portfolio While Running a Tech Company Neal ran a tech and healthcare company for 14 years while investing on the side. He discovered depreciation in 2003 building a campus for his business, bought a dozen brand new homes for $90,000 each during the 2008 crash, then went full time into multifamily when his company sold in 2013. --- How He Uses AI to Run His Business Every employee spends 30 to 60 minutes daily on AI and presents new tools weekly in a session called Sparkle. Over 400 custom GPT tools built — rent comps, T12 analysis, neighborhood scoring, and more. AI gets you 50 to 70 percent of the way there. --- Where the Market Cycle Stands Right Now Cap rates peaked and fell slowly throughout 2025 — prices are rising. Neal's framework: 2023 to 2025 were the three years of pain. 2026 is the gap year. 2027 is when it gets exciting — supply will be scarce and rents will rise. The bottom is already in. --- Moonlight Coaching Round — Neal Bawa For New Investors: Real estate is a risk based business. If you want zero risk put your money in a money market. If you want real wealth — get in with eyes wide open. Balancing Business and Life: Work nine focused hours and compress your meetings. Do not sacrifice balance. And always watch interest rates and supply — they can break even the best deal in the best market. Starting With Little Time or No Money: Start with education. AI at $20 a month and YouTube at zero cost are the two best teachers available. Let knowledge guide how much time and money to commit. Why Passive Investing in Real Estate Is So Powerful: Bonus depreciation and opportunity zones. Neal no longer leads with cash flow. At this stage of the cycle the tax advantages are the single greatest reason to invest passively in real estate. --- Connect with Neal Bawa Free webinars: multifamilyu.com/club [http://multifamilyu.com/club] --- Full episode on the Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustles and Syndication Show with Eric Lindsey. 👉 Mastermind Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/ [https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/] 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations [https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations] Free e-book: https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/ [https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/] Website: https://moonlightcre.com/ [https://moonlightcre.com/] Schedule a call: https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversation [https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversation] Learn more: https://linktr.ee/ericlindsey [https://linktr.ee/ericlindsey] Financial security over job security — always. #RealEstateSideHustle #MoonlightRealEstate #PassiveIncome #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #SideHustle #W2Investor #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialSecurity #WealthBuilding #RealEstatePodcast #ApartmentSyndication #RealEstateInvestor #FinancialFreedom #BuildingWealthOnTheSide

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