The Engine - Founders Stories
How does a "rebellious" student who failed his A-Levels go on to build a 25-person agency by age 22 and later launch a market-defining AI company? In this episode of Founder Stories, Donna Owen sits down with Leo Rogers, the founder of Curvo. Leo shares his unconventional journey from fixing corporate IT servers at 16 using nothing but a Google search bar to revolutionizing the sales industry with real-time AI coaching. This is a deep dive into the grit, "naive optimism," and the rigorous science required to scale a high-performance sales organization. In this episode, you’ll learn: The "Naive Optimism" Factor: Why the certainty to tackle challenges you don't yet understand is a prerequisite for survival in the early days. Managing "Gray Hair" at 22: Leo’s experience hiring and leading a senior leadership team with decades more experience than him. The $1 Million Founder Rule: Why founders must stay in the trenches and hit the first £1M in revenue before hiring an AE function. Gamifying MEDDPICC: How to move away from laborious "check-box" deal reviews and turn sales methodology into a live, fun, and high-adoption experience. The Future of Sales Tech: Why the trend for 2026 is moving away from annoying meeting bots toward seamless, on-device AI copilots. 🕒 Timestamps: 00:00 – The 75% jump in meeting Notetaker adoption in 2025. 01:55 – What is Kvo? Giving sellers a "second brain" in 500 milliseconds. 05:12 – The Science of Selling: Why MEDDPICC and Gap Selling are non-negotiable. 07:51 – Turning a "weaponized" methodology into a gamified experience. 11:24 – The "Lobby Bot" Fatigue: Why on-device recording is the future. 14:02 – Failing A-Levels and the "nail in the coffin" of academia. 17:15 – Naive Optimism: Fixing architecture servers at age 16. 21:11 – Respect in the Boardroom: Leading a senior team at age 22. 27:23 – Solving the Demand Problem: Why the founder must lead the first million in sales. 31:22 – Network Effects: Building a cap table of 18 top sales leaders. 38:00 – The Knowledge-Performance Gap: Selling complex tech to CTOs. 45:47 – Launching Kvo Self-Serve: The 2026 roadmap. 47:40 – Work-Life Integration: From the office to salsa dancing.
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