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#15 - Guest: Kevin Kelley

1 h 44 min · 25 de abr de 2026
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Kevin Kelley joins Kevin Bright and Ryder Walton for a wide-ranging conversation that starts personal and gets historically deep. Kevin Kelley grew up in Weatherford, Oklahoma, the son of a hardcore atheist engineer and a devout, joyful Christian mother who eventually opened her own real estate agency. He came to faith in his early teens, was raised in the Mennonite Brethren church, and today runs nearly 200 rental units while quietly battling the stress that comes with it. In this episode we get honest about the pressures of property management, learning to say no, marriage counseling, and what it actually means to build something for your kids. From there the conversation opens up into history, theology, and the state of Western civilization. We cover the real context behind the Crusades, the Syriac Christians who spread the gospel all the way to China, the Mongols, Rome, the Catholic Church as the foundation of Western civilization, and what modern society loses when it throws out rites of passage. We also touch on Pope Leo XIV, Trump, Iran, the Civil War, G.K. Chesterton, democracy eating itself, and why growing in virtue is the only real answer to any of it.

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#20 - Dragon Series: Are you a Dragon?

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episode #19 - Dragon Series: Western Medieval Dragons artwork

#19 - Dragon Series: Western Medieval Dragons

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episode #18 - Dragon Series: Dragons in the Bible artwork

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episode #17 - Dragon Series: Symbolism & Function artwork

#17 - Dragon Series: Symbolism & Function

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