The Mindful Journey
We spend so much of our lives trying to outrun pain. We stay busy, stay distracted, stay one step ahead of the feeling. But what if pain is not the problem, and the real invitation is simply to learn how to be with it without being consumed by it. That quiet capacity has a name. On this episode of The Mindful Journey, host Sana sits with Brooklyn-based somatic coach and psychological bodyworker Devin Scott, founder of Find Your Meaning, to explore equanimity, compassion, and the meaning we make from suffering. It is an honest, unhurried conversation on the difference between pain and suffering, why the body holds what the mind cannot name, and how to begin again, gently, when you have been carrying something heavy for a long time. ABOUT THE GUEST: Devin Scott is a Brooklyn-based somatic coach, psychological bodyworker, and founder of Find Your Meaning. His practice integrates bodywork, energy healing, mindfulness, Buddhist philosophy, and existential inquiry to support people through complex trauma, shame, and long-held emotional pain. Before coaching, he led teams in a corporate career and now works with clients seeking a deeper, more embodied path to healing. KEY TAKEAWAYS: * Equanimity is not detachment or indifference; it is the capacity to feel the present moment fully while withholding the judgement of good or bad. * Pain is inevitable. Suffering is pain multiplied by resistance, and most of what overwhelms us is the layer of tension we add around the original wound. * Compassion needs equanimity to remain steady. Without it, empathy slides into empathic distress, and we react to soothe ourselves instead of responding with wisdom. * Tonglen meditation, breathing in another's suffering and breathing out a good wish, slowly expands your capacity to hold pain without collapsing. * Many people live disembodied lives by design. Healing often begins by simply listening to the body, which has been working hard to help you survive your environment. * Skip the perfectionist healing target. Ask instead, how can I be a little more fully lived today, and check in with the body after every small choice. CONNECT WITH DEVIN SCOTT: * Website: https://findyourmeaning.coach [https://findyourmeaning.coach] * Newsletter: https://findyourmeaning.coach [https://findyourmeaning.coach] (scroll to the bottom of the homepage to subscribe) * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devinscott.nyc [https://www.instagram.com/devinscott.nyc] EPISODE CHAPTERS: [00:00] Outrunning Pain, and the Quality That Lets You Stop [06:30] Devin's Journey, From Compulsive Goodness to Looking Inward [12:00] What Equanimity Actually Is, and the Parable of the Farmer [18:00] Equanimity vs Indifference, Tonglen, and Empathic Distress [22:00] Pain vs Suffering, Why Resistance Is the Real Wound [27:00] The Body Knows, Living Disembodied in a System That Asks for It [34:00] Starting the Journey Without Becoming a Project to Fix 🎙️ Want to Be a Guest on Healthy Mind, Healthy Life? 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