9 Is Modern Worship Wesleyan? Wesley, Augustine, and the Theology of Flow w/ Dr. Debbie Wong

14 Sweet Caroline (Divines) and Other Wesleyan Anglophilia w/ Dr. Ryan Danker

In this episode of Wesleyan Option, Lane sits down with “notorious Anglophile” and renowned scholar Dr. Ryan Danker to discuss his two newest books: Dynamic Grace and To Spread Scriptural Holiness. They dive deep into the fascinating historical roots of the Wesleyan movement, exploring how the Glorious Revolution and the Caroline Divines shaped John Wesley’s vision of an "evangelical Catholicism." Dr. Danker also shares his insights on why early Methodism is best understood not as a static institution, but as a dynamic movement of restoration and renewal within the church. GUEST BIO Dr. Ryan Danker is the founding director of the John Wesley Institute in Washington, DC. He previously taught on the faculties of Wesley Theological Seminary and Greensboro College. He holds degrees from Northwest Nazarene University, Duke University, and Boston University, and is the author of numerous works on Wesleyan theology and early Methodism. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS * The Story of Dynamic Grace: Why Dr. Danker wrote a highly accessible, 100-page introductory book on early Methodism for the laity. * The Anglican Context: How the Glorious Revolution of 1688 and the high-church "Caroline Divines" laid the foundation for Wesley's pursuit of holy living. * Evangelical Catholicism: Unpacking Wesley’s unique blend of experiential faith and universal, historic church tradition. * Collaborative Scholarship: A look inside the John Wesley Institute’s summits and their latest multi-denominational project, To Spread Scriptural Holiness. * Movement vs. Institution: Why Methodism thrives when it operates as a leavening force of renewal rather than settling into a rigid institutional structure. RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE * Book: Dynamic Grace: The Story of Early Methodism [https://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Grace-Story-Early-Methodism/dp/B0GXLJQYZF] by Ryan N. Danker (Available on Amazon) * Book: To Spread Scriptural Holiness: Theological, Social, and Missional Foundations for the Wesleyan Movement [https://nextmethodism.org/books/] https://nextmethodism.org/books/edited by Ryan N. Danker (Available on Seedbed and Amazon) * Article: Dr. Danker’s essays on early Methodism and church renewal can be found at Firebrand Magazine [https://firebrandmag.com/articles/the-charism-of-the-wesleyan-movement]. * Organizations: Learn more about the [https://nextmethodism.org/]John Wesley Institute [https://nextmethodism.org/]. [https://nextmethodism.org/] Connect With Us! We would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. If you have questions, feedback, or ideas for future topics, please reach out to us at wesleyanoption@gmail.com [wesleyanoption@gmail.com].

13 How Jesus Unlocks the "Old" Testament: A Discussion of Luke 24

Email us at: wesleyanoption@gmail.com In this episode, Lane Davis, Joy J. Moore, and Rob Haynes dive into the Gospel lectionary passage of Luke 24:44-53. They explore how Jesus serves as the "key" that unlocks the Old Testament, the Wesleyan concept of the "inner veil" being removed, and how the Ascension serves as a pivot from a life of worship to a life of global mission. Key Questions Answered WHY IS THE GOSPEL LECTIONARY PASSAGE (LUKE 24:44-53) OFTEN SPLIT INTO SECTIONS? Dr. Joy J. Moore explains that while modern Bibles use chapter and verse divisions as "zip codes" to help us navigate, these breaks can sometimes undermine our interpretation. The transition from Jesus’ teaching to His Ascension is a single, continuous drama of the Creator God’s promise being fulfilled through the life of Jesus. WHAT IS THE "WESLEYAN OPTION" FOR UNDERSTANDING DIFFICULT SCRIPTURE? Rob Haynes notes that Jesus explains Himself as the fulfillment of the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms. For Wesleyans, the "opened mind" isn't just about intellectual study; it’s about what John Wesley called the removal of the "inner veil." Through the Spirit, our hearts are illumined to grasp the scriptures we have heard but not yet fully understood. DOES THE ASCENSION MEAN THE CHURCH SHOULD STAY IN "CONTINUAL WORSHIP"? While Luke 24 ends with the disciples praising God in the temple, the panel emphasizes that this is only "Volume One." By reading Luke and Acts as a continuous narrative, we see that the joy of worship is the fuel for the mission. The "continual prayer" of the disciples provided the foundation for the administrative and missional work that follows in the book of Acts. Keywords: Wesleyan Option, Luke 24, The Ascension, Methodist Theology, Lectionary Study, Inner Veil, Book of Acts, Church Mission.

12 Wonder and Power and Ascension! Oh My! (Greater Works in John 14)

What does it mean for followers of Jesus to perform "greater works" than the Messiah himself? In this episode we dive into John 14 to explore the tension between reason and wonder, activism and faith. * Defining "Greater": How the church continues Christ’s mission through social holiness. * The Reason/Wonder Divide: How do we live in the tension between reason and wonder? * The Greatest Work: Why Wesley believed that converting hearts and practicing holiness remains our highest calling. THE SUMMER READING LIST * Rob’s Pick: Love Goes First [https://www.amazon.com/Love-Goes-First-Transform-Relationships/dp/0310119413/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34VJ3A1YX6DLZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.hHmspfF2_HX2owtJ0o3jVEBxSwoezXCaoh544Ja7WLqGCBqUMwEEWNZ9a5hamdXKuli6HI6W3gg8YNotKJhXUdb1KSwvOX0XWI27-t3LtTm-_b9BCt3XY477Qpcs3egNq7WaZXBCTNZlP1RA7BXQ67sVyKfTE-gjhWQdCqN44gc_etQmypQdzhzdtvdOPQbA9tGbYZokf-kFMxRYgoN9MaD374fLkjAeJGKkaGPVCzo.X6jPBbDxiGvxiaFictFKn_x5RFRc-e5-nZUIwJIDOp0&dib_tag=se&keywords=love+goes+first&qid=1777467036&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=love+goes+fi%2Caps%2C285&sr=8-1]by Andrew Forrest * Joy’s Picks: * Disability and Evangelism [https://www.amazon.com/Disability-Evangelism-Fullness-Kingdom-Ministry/dp/1514009781/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2O8CN1VB0VZBC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._Yom-SBh_jobco_1pM_cIZqRbG0EGWccog-UHCwRZKEVPx85RECvyyL1O2Sb-Jbpk2y3Vc8GYhmMfTNiXY6S-DSVDPZsq2MUTlsDf7eelXhINu9PdbJ4arnrHg-Sblbvm_n250A3ZpsNyzYS5qm7vkIIgmcnlqawt1JQ5XRoE5diSPqLCqTKULjQiZgbiRUwPyF1QF2yE0TwLTQj_PD4-GL9Gwt11StqPakc5YwpQBw.LvIbs-Mr713pPch7p5djWOm5_0gxjHPrUGG4KY8hpc8&dib_tag=se&keywords=disability+and+evangelism&qid=1777467070&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=disability+and+evangelis%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-1]by Rochelle Scheuermann * The Divided Mind of the Black Church [https://www.amazon.com/Divided-Black-Church-Religion-Ethnicity/dp/1479806005/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3KHBWTOMQ10ST&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.vi8pUp-7QZm3ixT16lYo7K7Lk5SWadJD3_aSLWC3Uvtw3Mjoz1DwP3Nf9pHv4nZM.3idoEUZRw74hkn1O00GokDwUwpnEsZXGQMoyWHt-jyg&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+divided+church+warnock&qid=1777467100&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=the+divided+church+warnock%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-1] by Raphael Warnock * Tony Stark, Odysseus, and the Myths Behind Marvel [https://www.amazon.com/Stark-Odysseus-Myths-Behind-Marvel/dp/0063382644/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1QECTCFLAWD9B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iEsa17A4Ci9KNQc9Q62TXFmSTjuYIP65m8PkbZ2zGl90PHligR88V7aTYhBfDohYMVLbs1EYLmz6Fy0SUAoREzpNc8Tsfvawvj0SmjXqMFsJ9kVZVAjoPgBuImG935Erz3HU09F5TZD6szBEwEzRljNXEnEoacv5IdeT_E1UGDa_cZ3XIasFFrhbTxkzjcNX_SRCraAY01YqgD2KOpI-R6V4wi27SAXPX0qqOZ0aUoU.RdQrVFBKFyNLa2oQbcr5y3N7RwYm8_0uVBkiq5O2Smk&dib_tag=se&keywords=tony+stark+myths&qid=1777467137&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=tony+stark+myths%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-1]by Peter Meinick * Lane’s Pick: Reformations [https://www.amazon.com/Reformations-Early-Modern-World-1450-1650/dp/0300240031/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HGERJCFOSLZX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fEmgd5KckJ8vtxBjzYa1v4UU_h3NhttRLKxvOjPQCbMiGlHOptKJqJF-rVdQsmUyv95EZx4kz_1lAFM1dsvsJcVCIANAipDl3js4dKnaZvI.1GX2kPofxhvVhBI5XvMY0dLBnRdrkQJ6P0iWYupSlMo&dib_tag=se&keywords=reformations+carlos+eire&qid=1777467172&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=reformations+carols+%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-1] by Carlos Eire Email: WesleyanOption@gmail.com

11 Wrestling and Welcoming in the Church - Faith and Justice w/ Brandon Murphy Ward

Email us at wesleyanoption@gmail.com [wesleyanoption@gmail.com] "I don't think seminary is about giving you ways to defend the Jesus you believe in... it's about breaking down your biases to build that faith back up even stronger." What does it mean to "grow in grace" when the institution of the church feels imperfect? In this episode, Lane sits down with Brandon Murphy-Ward, a second-year MDiv student at Duke Divinity School, to explore the beautiful, often messy intersection of theological education and pastoral calling. From a transformative childhood encounter on a Kansas highway to the academic "unraveling" of Old Testament scholarship, Brandon shares his journey of navigating the Wesleyan tradition. We dive deep into: * The Calling: How a 13-year-old’s "Happy Birthday, Jesus" prayer evolved into a commitment to the elder track in the UMC. * Head vs. Heart: Why the modern church has lost the art of "reasoning" and why questioning God isn't a sin—it's a tradition. * Wesleyan Nerd-Out: A refreshing look at Christian Perfection and why the early Methodist movement’s focus on the marginalized is the key to modern justice work. * The Seedbed of Seminary: A candid look at the "pruning" process of theological school and why wrestling with the church is a sign of a healthy vocation.

10 Church Cancel Culture and Some Easter Hope

Email us at: WesleyanOption@gmail.com In an era of "pastors not on their best behavior" and high-profile church scandals, how should Christians navigate the messy tension between righteous judgment and transformative grace? In this episode of Wesleyan Option, hosts Lane Davis, Dr. Joy J. Moore, and Dr. Rob Haynes tackle the heavy reality of leadership failures and the "shame game" of social media. Moving beyond the clickbait, the panel explores a deeply Wesleyan approach to accountability, restoration, and the "soteriological way of thinking" that defines our tradition. Key topics discussed in this episode: * The Shame vs. Accountability Tension: How the Wesleyan tradition balances a strong notion of grace with a historical commitment to strict accountability. * Honor and Shame Culture: A look at how biblical contexts differ from modern Western "guilt/innocence" frameworks and the impact of social media on restoration. * Personal Transformation: Rob shares a powerful personal story of radical change and the role of the Holy Spirit in breaking long-held habits. * The Three H’s of Community: Joy breaks down the essential relationship between Hope, Honesty, and Hospitality in the life of a disciple. * The Evolution of Evangelism: Why many modern conversions are happening in the "dark of the night" rather than at the altar rail, and what that means for the local church. * The Wesleyan Distinctive: Why salvation must exist within the bounds of accountability—from the early "bands and classes" to modern-day sanctification. Whether you are a leader navigating church conflict or a layperson seeking a deeper understanding of holiness and sanctification, this episode offers a grounded, theological roadmap for moving from brokenness to wholeness. ---------------------------------------- KEYWORDS: Wesleyan Theology, Grace and Accountability, Church Scandals, Sanctification, Restoration, John Wesley, Discipleship, Christian Leadership, Spiritual Transformation, Methodist History.