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21: Carpenters

1 h 7 min · 4. touko 2025

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SUPPORT THE OFFICIAL RELEASE You can listen to Carpenters’ self-titled 1971 release on: * Apple Music [https://music.apple.com/us/album/carpenters/1423235747] * Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/album/3Br6amYT7sC9y3uvHkfRDI?si=l79BHQ8nTIiovt4m1UcmgQ] Or purchase the LP on: * Amazon Music [https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B07G8PGKTQ?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_nmq8qM6y4j4JAI3vVagbHXpP7] NOTES * Carpenters’ discography up to their self-titled: * 1969’s Ticket to Ride [https://music.apple.com/us/album/ticket-to-ride/1434887508] * 1970’s Close to You [https://music.apple.com/us/album/close-to-you/1423766994] * Carpenters’ Christmas Portrait [https://music.apple.com/us/album/christmas-portrait-special-edition/1434882633], which we discussed at length in Episode 18 [https://badmusichertz.com/post/christmas-portrait]. * Eagles [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/eagles/1053549]’ Desperado [https://music.apple.com/us/album/desperado/635800390], which Michael wrote on at length here [https://badmusichertz.com/post/desperado]. * The Beatles [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/the-beatles/136975]’ self-titled, most commonly referred to as simply The White Album [https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-beatles-the-white-album/1441133180]. Marc mused off-hand that Carpenters’ strikingly simple album art reminded him of The White Album’s cover art. * Craig Braun [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Braun]—credited for the design of Carpenters’ iconic typographic logo—is most well known for his work on the The Rolling Stones [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/the-rolling-stones/1249595]’ “Tongue and Lips” [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue_and_lips_logo] logo. The Rolling Stones' "Tongue and Lips" logo [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/carpenters/images/the-rolling-stones-tongue-and-lips-logo.png] * Michael mused that Carpenters’ logo reminded him of Lucasfilm [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucasfilm]’s logo, which similarly showcases typographic symmetry. Lucasfilm's logo [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/carpenters/images/lucasfilm-logo.jpg] * Richard’s ridiculous shirt in the LP’s gatefold. Richard in his ridiculous ruffled shirt [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/carpenters/images/richard-what-are-you-wearing.jpg] * Despite his love of the record, Michael said Lord Huron [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/lord-huron/393068687]’s Strange Trails [https://music.apple.com/us/album/strange-trails/962688212] sometimes drags (mentioned when noting how brisk and easy Carpenters is for any given listen). Listen to Episode 2 [https://badmusichertz.com/post/strange-trails] for a full deep-dive. * John Bettis [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bettis], who shares in songwriting credit with Richard throughout the album. * Gerry Rafferdy [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/gerry-rafferty/5569956], Randy Newman [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/randy-newman/200900], and Devendra Banhart [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/devendra-banhart/5621730] to Marc’s ears all had similar inflections or delivery to Richard. * Paul Williams [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Williams_(songwriter)] and his original performance of “Rainy Days and Mondays” [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOtfqYZH3Ho], which caught Michael’s ire since to his ears Paul’s delivery had an unusual cadence and timing that failed to properly match the backing instrumental. * The Beatles [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/the-beatles/136975]’ “Yellow Submarine”. Fun song, terrible anchor for a Jimmy Buffett [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/jimmy-buffett/61232] concert. * Lord Huron [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/lord-huron/393068687]’s Vide Noir [https://music.apple.com/us/album/vide-noir/1440909604] & Tame Impala [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/tame-impala/290242959]’s Lonerism [https://music.apple.com/us/album/lonerism/1440825369] Michael felt both rode the fine line of being almost too over-baked, but were able to stick the landing and make it work. * “Groupie (Superstar)” [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b2xa6cYNpU] by Delaney & Bonnie [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/delaney-bonnie/461815], which while performed adequately, Marc & Michael both felt didn’t capture the track’s core essence like Carpenters did. * “Superstar” [https://music.apple.com/us/album/superstar/1423235747?i=1423235860]’s backing instrumentals were performed by none other than the Wrecking Crew [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wrecking_Crew_(music)], famous collection of studio musicians who performed for the likes of Sonny & Cher [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/sonny-cher/855411], The Mamas & The Papas [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/the-mamas-the-papas/62313], and of course the Beach Boys [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/the-beach-boys/562555] on Pet Sounds [https://music.apple.com/us/album/pet-sounds/1440841241]. * Don’t lie, you love that scene from Tommy Boy, too [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7ZLIqJ8RN4]. * Abbey Road [https://music.apple.com/us/album/abbey-road-2019-mix/1474815798]’s Side 2 Medley [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_Road#Medley], arguably the most well known rock medley in history. * Lonesome Dove [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonesome_Dove_(miniseries)], the miniseries Michael mentioned on the show and has been trying to get me to watch for years. * The Zombies [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/the-zombies/930280]’ Odessey and Oracle [https://music.apple.com/us/album/odessey-and-oracle/1719880807], which Marc felt “Druscilla Penny” could slip right into. * Henry Menchini [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Mancini], highly regarded as one of the greatest film composers in history. * Go home, Apple Music, you’re drunk. Strange Apple Music results for Michael's "Sometimes Mancini" query [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/carpenters/images/apple-music-why.jpg] * 1970’s Lovers and Other Strangers [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz4qKBUkTPc&pp=ygUqbG92ZXJzIGFuZCBvdGhlciBzdHJhbmdlcnMgZm9yIGFsbCB3ZSBrbm930gcJCX4JAYcqIYzv], featuring the original recording of “For All We Know” by Robb Royer and Jimmy Griffin. * Michael found Fighting Shadows [https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Shadows-Overcoming-Becoming-Fully/dp/1400243300] by Jefferson Bethke and Jon Tyson to share similar themes in its use of “shadows” as Randy Sparks’ use in “(A Place To) Hide Away”. * In “For All We Know”, Michael found it shared some lyrical connections with Fleet Foxes [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/fleet-foxes/275727569]’ “Montezuma” [https://music.apple.com/us/album/montezuma/425059566?i=425059569]. * Lord Huron [https://music.apple.com/us/artist/lord-huron/393068687]’s Lonesome Dreams [https://music.apple.com/us/album/lonesome-dreams-bonus-track-version/1758066410], a record Michael similarly finds to be extremely familiar, comforting, and extremely easy to listen to start to finish. REFERENCES * Karen’s performance on “Superstar” was recorded in a single take: the first one. [https://books.google.com/books?id=1-pH4i3jXvAC&pg=PA185#v=onepage&q&f=false] * The Wrecking Crew getting their name from the grey hairs at the company that felt “Rock ‘n Roll” would ruin the industry. [https://pullmydaizy.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/meet-the-wrecking-crew-interview-w-denny-tedesco/] * Carpenters were indeed the first to record Sometimes [https://secondhandsongs.com/work/4764/all]. The instrumental recording Michael referenced was released in 1972 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30glS79-okw https://www.discogs.com/master/378578-Henry-Mancini-and-Doc-Severinsen-Brass-On-Ivory], a year after Carpenters’ performance on their self-titled. * “Sunday Firesides: Be Someone’s Atmospheric Getaway” on Dying Breed [https://www.dyingbreed.net/p/sunday-firesides-be-someones-atmospheric?r=m3xz1&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true], which Michael said exactly described the way Carpenters makes him feel; Carpenters is an emotionally warm sonic getaway. > “What are you telling your partner? Well as far as I can tell if you live with someone [prior to the commitment of marriage] here’s what you’re saying to each other: ‘you’re the best I can manage at the moment’.” > > Dr. Jordan B. Peterson in “Here’s Why You Shouldn’t Live With Your Significant Other Before Marriage” [https://youtu.be/J4_d7nENMFM?si=IifkaglXLMwm69x8&t=721] ART Digital cover art [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/carpenters/images/album-art.jpg] Physical cover art with the envelope-style fold [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/carpenters/images/physical-album-art.jpg] ♫︎

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19: Infinite Arms

SUPPORT THE OFFICIAL RELEASE You can listen to Band of Horses’ Infinite Arms on: * Apple Music [https://music.apple.com/us/album/infinite-arms/371190956] * Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/album/08fkw9uDP2KET6cPIl74Xo] Or purchase Infinite Arms on: * Amazon Music [https://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Arms-Band-Horses/dp/B003CIG7AE] LINKS * Marvis Pro [https://apps.apple.com/us/app/marvis-pro/id1447768809], the iOS music player Michael mentioned using to see his play counts. * Vacationer [https://vacationer.bandcamp.com/album/wavelengths]’s Relief [https://www.discogs.com/release/5918946-Vacationer-Relief], the only album that came close to Infinite Arms’s play count number in Michael’s library. You can read Michael’s previous review on the record here [https://badmusichertz.com/post/relief]. * Michael mentioned having a Fracture [https://fractureme.com] print of Infinite Arms, which is a picture printed directly on glass for a minimal, sleek presentation. This is his current collection. Michael's growing collection of Fracture prints of his favorite album's cover art [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/infinite-arms/images/michael-fractures-1000w.jpg]https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/infinite-arms/images/michael-fractures.jpg * Sun Kil Moon [http://sunkilmoon.com]’s Benji [https://www.discogs.com/master/660647-Sun-Kil-Moon-Benji], the album Marc claimed to be a perfect foil to the easily digestible and repeatable Infinite Arms. You can listen to our previous discussion on the record in Episode 8 [https://badmusichertz.com/post/benji]. * Band of Horses’ new lineup during Infinite Arms, and would remain unchanged for years—the first “true” Band of Horses lineup: * Benjamin Bridwell * Creighton Barret * Ryan Monroe * Bill Reynolds * Tyler Ramsey * The star at the center of the pivot point in the album art is Polaris [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris] (more commonly known as the “North Star”). The star seems to stand still in long exposure photography while the rest of the northern hemisphere stars spin around it due to the North Star being in a (mostly) direct line with the Earth’s rotational axis with respect to the North Pole. * Christopher Wilson [https://www.christopherwilsonphotography.com], the Photographer for Infinite Arms’s cover art and all the band’s album art up to that point. (information courtesy of the Albums app on iOS [https://apps.apple.com/us/app/albums-album-focused-player/id1469948986]). * Michael’s insane graph of “vibrancy”/”energy” by track number A crudely drawn graph with "energy"/"vibrancy" as the "y" axis and each of the album's tracks in the "x" axis as a measure of time. The plotted lines rise and peak with "Compliments" in the beginning, gradually fall until the low point of "Evening Kitchen" in the middle, then rise back up at the end with "NW Apartment" before finally settling back down with "Neighbor" [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/infinite-arms/images/michael-is-nuts.jpg]https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/infinite-arms/images/michael-is-nuts.jpg * Infinite Arms was nominated for “Best Alternative Music Album” for the 53rd Grammy Awards [https://web.archive.org/web/20120102034138/http://theenvelope.latimes.com/awards/grammys/la-et-env-grammys-nominees-2010-list,0,2463095.htmlstory] in 2011, the same year Arcade Fire [https://www.arcadefire.com] famously secured [https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2011/02/14/133747543/what-the-hell-who-is-arcade-fire] Album of the Year with The Suburbs [https://www.discogs.com/master/264742-Arcade-Fire-The-Suburbs]. You can read Marc’s thoughts on The Suburbs here [https://badmusichertz.com/post/the-suburbs]. * Marc found “Factory” to share similarities with Paul McCartney and Wings [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_McCartney_and_Wings]’s “Let Me Roll It” [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Me_Roll_It] off 1973’s Band on the Run [https://www.discogs.com/master/48878-Paul-McCartney-And-Wings-Band-On-The-Run] and Vacationer’s “Turning” off 2018’s Mindset [https://www.discogs.com/master/1415389-Vacationer-Mindset]. You can read Marc’s review of Band on the Run here [https://badmusichertz.com/post/band-on-the-run] or listen to our discussion on Mindset in Episode 14 [https://badmusichertz.com/post/mindset]. * “Factory” utilizes both a Memotron [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memotron] and Theremin [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theremin]. The Theremin also appeared in Lord Huron [https://www.lordhuron.com/]’s “Love Like Ghosts” & “Way Out There” off 2015’s Strange Trails [https://music.apple.com/us/album/strange-trails/962688212], and you can listen to our previous discussion on that record in Episode 2 [http://localhost:4000/post/strange-trails]. * Michael’s writeup on Jimmy Buffett [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Buffett]’s A1A [https://www.discogs.com/master/300442-Jimmy-Buffett-A1A] mentioned during the show can be found here [https://badmusichertz.com/post/a1a], the finest publication on the site thus far. * The Last Bison [https://thelastbison.bandcamp.com]’s Quill [https://thelastbison.bandcamp.com/album/quill], a record Michael felt was similar to “Compliments” since they both are high in character and charm in large part because of their imperfections. * Grizzly Bear [http://grizzly-bear.net]’s Yellow House [https://www.discogs.com/master/58220-Grizzly-Bear-Yellow-House], the record Marc felt similarly leaned into “everything & the kitchen sink” production. * Eagles [http://eagles.com], a classic rock band Michael could very easily see playing “Laredo” * ChrisCorradi’s comment on the “bullet in my Kai Lorenzo” lyric on genius.com [https://genius.com/12791946] * “Band Of Horses Survived… Barely” [https://www.spin.com/2022/03/band-of-horses-ben-bridwell-things-are-great-interview/], The SPIN [https://www.spin.com] interview Marc mentioned where Ben touches on his then-recent separation with his spouse. * “Grumpy Old Men” [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107050/] (the 1993 film) and “Old City Bar” by Trans-Siberian Orchestra [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Xl0ayzNmc] both evoked similar feelings and visuals in Michael as “Blue Beard”. * The Explorer’s Club [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Explorers_Club_(band)], a classic rock & roll and classic pop-influenced band that Marc found strikingly similar to Band of Horses’ experiments in “Blue Beard” and “Dilly”. * “I need more cowbell!” [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsQLlk-T0s] * Long in the Tooth [https://www.yelp.com/biz/long-in-the-tooth-philadelphia] and Repo Records [https://www.reporecords.com] referenced in the show are Marc’s favorite record haunts in the Philly area. Support your local music stores! * Marc kept saying “Dilly” was very “70’s” but meant to say “60’s” (oops). * Ludo [http://www.ludorock.com]’s “Good Will Hunting by Myself” [https://songwhip.com/ludo/good-will-hunting-by-myself], the song Michael mentioned takes the stereotypical “I’m better off without you, anyway” attitude from pop breakup songs and cranks it up to a comical extreme. * Admiral Fallow [https://www.admiralfallow.com], the band Michael mentioned was also sometimes similarly “rough” in vocal delivery like in “Evening Kitchen” and also works because of those edges. * Arcade Fire [https://www.arcadefire.com]’s “We Used To Wait” [https://songwhip.com/arcade-fire/we-used-to-wait]—which explicitly and intentionally makes the audience “wait” for a final chorus that never again returns—Michael cheekily claimed to be the antithesis to the infinitely repeating chorus in “Older”. * “Basement Shows” (also known as “House Shows”) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basement_show], a staple of Philadelphia college life. * “Are You My Neightbor?” [https://bigidea.fandom.com/wiki/Are_You_My_Neighbor%3F], a deep cut Marc made to the classic VeggieTales [https://bigidea.fandom.com/wiki/VeggieTales] episode. Yes, this was a real thing. * Grizzly Bear [http://grizzly-bear.net]’s “Colorado” [https://songwhip.com/grizzly-bear/colorado], a song Marc found just as boring as “Neighbor”. Yes Michael, I will put it down there. * The Arcade Fire [https://www.arcadefire.com] lyric Marc was flopping around trying to remember is “Took a drive into the sprawl / To find the house where we used to stay” [https://genius.com/1804790], where their usage of “house” instead of “home” is meant to communicate emotional distance and lack of attachment to the physical place they grew up. * Please use a good podcast player! [https://apps.apple.com/us/app/overcast-podcast-player/id888422857?ls=1] * Rooibos tea [https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/rooibos-tea-benefits] is best tea. * Premium Steap [https://premiumsteap.com] and August Tea [https://august.la] are incredible tea suppliers and are “Marc & Michael Approved”. Don’t just drink Lipton and say our tea tastes like soap, anonymous coworker of Michael’s. REFERENCES Listed in order of reference on the show. > “We actually started with a tonne of songs—about twenty-five or so—so we didn’t even know which ones would make it, or which ones were good or bad really. So you don’t really know until you’re recording them, because we weren’t really playing a lot of them live, so once they’re recorded you’re like, ‘Okay, this actually sounds like a real song, and this one sounds like a joke’—we’re just taking the piss out of some soul song or something, you know? So we kinda learned as we went, like, ‘Oh wow, is what the record sounds like’.” > > “Band Of Horses Interview”, CLASH [https://www.clashmusic.com/features/band-of-horses-interview/] > “‘We have this time off before we gotta go back out on the road again—let’s just go do it ourselves. We’ll get another engineer… We think we know what the songs sound like—let’s just go for it’. And so we were like, “This is actually really fun”. That’s when we really discovered we don’t have to beat each other up on this, we can just have fun with it and enjoy the process.” > > “Band Of Horses Interview”, CLASH [https://www.clashmusic.com/features/band-of-horses-interview/] > “I did stretch myself pretty much to being broke, at the same time we didn’t have to worry about anybody even coming in and hearing mixes or anything, we could really take our time with it.” > > “Band Of Horses Interview”, CLASH [https://www.clashmusic.com/features/band-of-horses-interview/] > “It’s the first time the line-up hasn’t been this revolving door. With this record it’s a real band that I’m part of. No one’s going anywhere, everyone’s contributing to the songwriting process and this is our coming-out party.” > > “Band of Horses: Infinite Arms Q&A with Ben Bridwell, Uncut Magazine (archive)” [https://web.archive.org/web/20100615005215/http://www.bandofhorses.com/uk/node/151] > “… But that’s the best part about it—the fact that it is a mystery. People get the lyrics wrong—I do that all the time with my favorite songs. You read the lyrics five years later, or hear it differently, and you’re like, ‘Oh, I always kinda sang something to that effect when I was singing along, but I didn’t really realize what they were talking about’, you know? In a way it’s like little hints come around and the mystery kinda reveals itself, but the fact that people don’t really know is my favorite part, because that’s what I appreciate about songs as well.” > > “Band Of Horses Interview”, CLASH [https://www.clashmusic.com/features/band-of-horses-interview/] > [With Regards to “Factory”] “I was listening to a lot of Nick Drake and was really enamored by the string arrangements in his songs. Also, I was trying to make it a bit dramatic sounding in a Bittersweet Symphony kinda way.” > > “Track-byTrack: Band of Horses’ Infinite Arms”, THE SKINNY [https://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/playlists/track-by-track-band-of-horses-infinite-arms] > “I was actually out writing songs for the new record, and I had some crazy stuff going on. That song just kind of ended up tapping me on the shoulder. Even though some of it is a bit maybe too autobiographical for my own tastes, a lot of it dances around subjects like all my songs do. I try not to be too specific.” > > “Infinite Arms: A conversation with Band of Horses’ Ben Bridwell”, Mike Ragogna of HuffPost Entertainment [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eminfinite-armsem-a-conve_b_597126] > “We got to the point where we were touring so much that nowhere was really home. So I figured, at least if I’m gonna come home after these long stretches of traveling, it would nice to be around my family; my parents, and my brother and sister are having babies. So it was like, when I come home, at least I’m close enough so I get to see them at least twice a year compared to like maybe once a year.” > > “Band Of Horses Interview”, CLASH [https://www.clashmusic.com/features/band-of-horses-interview/] > “This song [‘Infinite Arms’] deals a lot with the major theme of the record, and being the title track that’s maybe a little obvious, but this is one I’m not quite ready to unveil the mask on. But I can tell you that it almost didn’t make the record.” > > “Track-byTrack: Band of Horses’ Infinite Arms”, THE SKINNY [https://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/playlists/track-by-track-band-of-horses-infinite-arms] > “We went bonkers with Infinite Arms, because we could. It was a challenge to see what we could do, but we also overcooked some shit.” > > “Band of Horses: Mystery Riders”, Magnet Magazine [https://magnetmagazine.com/2014/09/17/band-of-horses-mystery-riders/] ART Cover art [https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/infinite-arms/images/album-art-1000w.jpg]https://cargo.badmusichertz.com/infinite-arms/images/album-art.jpg ♫︎

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21: Carpenters

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