Joe St John - It All Started at a Career Fair: A Conversation About What Still Works in Sales

Joe St John - It All Started at a Career Fair: A Conversation About What Still Works in Sales

In this episode of Beyond Obscurity, Chris sits down with his first mentor and longtime friend — the man who gave him his first shot in America. From selling cars together to leading teams across industries, this conversation is packed with real talk, sales wisdom, and stories that still hit today.

Paul Mathurin - Raised to Rise Together: Same Drive, Same Blood

In this first episode of Beyond Obscurity, Chris sits down with his brother Paul Mathurin to reflect on their parallel paths — two brothers raised in the same home, but shaped by different trials. From growing up in a different country to carving their own lanes in business and leadership in America, this conversation dives deep into grit, identity, and the unshakable drive they both carry. Same blood. Same ambition. Two different journeys — one shared legacy.