Ep. 56: From Running Drugs to Running to Jesus: How God Uses Our Worst Decisions for Good

Ep. 58: When Life Doesn’t Go as Planned: Re-scripting Your Story with Judith Sabbert

What do you do when life turns out nothing like you imagined? In this conversation on the Eternal Echoes podcast, host Katharine Rose sits down with Judith Sabbert, who shares her story of walking through divorce, a seven-year battle with breast cancer, the devastating loss of her son, and countless unexpected turns she never saw coming. Yet through every heartbreak, Judith discovered something powerful: God was still writing her story. Rather than allowing suffering to define her, Judith learned how to “re-script” her life—embracing faith, surrender, gratitude, and the unexpected ways God reveals His presence in our darkest moments. From powerful stories of “Godwinks” and signs of comfort after unimaginable grief to wisdom on forgiveness, surrender, and learning to move forward when life falls apart, Judith offers hard-earned truths that will encourage anyone navigating disappointment, loss, or uncertainty. Together, we discuss: -Recognizing “Godwinks” and signs of God’s presence -The role of community during suffering -Why surrender became a turning point in healing -Learning the power of forgiveness -How gratitude can sustain us in difficult seasons -What it means to “believe and you will see” If you've ever found yourself grieving the life you thought you'd have, this conversation is for you. Connect with Judith Sabbert: Website: https://www.judithsabbert.com/ Daring to Dance Again book: https://a.co/d/018EL12n Follow Katharine and Eternal Echoes: Facebook and Instagram: @EternalEchoesMinistry TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@eternal.echoes.mi/ Substack: http://katharinerrose.substack.com Website: www.eternalechoesministry.com Email: ⁠⁠Katharine@eternalechoesministry.com⁠⁠ for speaking events or interviews Sow a seed: https://donorbox.org/eternal-echoes-giving Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr-SRIRbcmw

Ep. 57: Living From Your Spirit: Fighting for Your Destiny after Endless Trauma with Juliet Dawn

What do you do when your life feels marked by heartache and tragedy? In this episode of Eternal Echoes, host Katharine Rose sits down with British singer-songwriter and former X Factor contestant Juliet Dawn to hear her extraordinary testimony of suffering, perseverance, and God’s redeeming power. Juliet opens up about the unimaginable losses she has endured over the past 35 years—including multiple miscarriages, the devastating death of her twin boys, an abusive marriage, PTSD, chronic trauma, and years of emotional and physical pain. Yet woven through every chapter of grief is a testimony of God’s faithfulness, restoration, and miraculous hope. Together, Katharine and Juliet discuss: -How to hold onto faith in seasons of deep suffering -The tension of reconciling pain with the goodness of God -The importance of speaking truth and God’s promises over your life -What it means to live from the spirit instead of the soul -Fighting for your destiny and finding purpose in suffering This conversation is filled with wisdom, encouragement, and hope for anyone walking through grief, disappointment, trauma, or spiritual exhaustion. If you’ve ever wondered where God is in the middle of suffering, this episode will remind you that He is still present, still faithful, and still writing your story. Connect with Juliet Dawn: Website: https://www.julietdawn.co.uk/ "Born to Be" album: https://rocketfuelhq.com/product/11788 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JulietDawnMusic Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/julietdawnmusic/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julietdawnmusic/ Follow Katharine and Eternal Echoes: Facebook and Instagram: @EternalEchoesMinistry TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@eternal.echoes.mi/ Substack: http://katharinerrose.substack.com Website: www.eternalechoesministry.com Email: ⁠⁠Katharine@eternalechoesministry.com⁠⁠ for speaking events or interviews Sow a seed: https://donorbox.org/eternal-echoes-giving Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=820qnVlE23I&feature=youtu.be

Ep. 56: From Running Drugs to Running to Jesus: How God Uses Our Worst Decisions for Good

In this episode of Eternal Echoes, host Katharine Rose sits down with Bill Gray—a husband of nearly 45 years, father of six, grandfather of 21, and a man whose life was radically transformed by the grace of God. From a rebellious teenage lifestyle filled with drugs and self-reliance to living a double life after coming to faith, Bill shares how he tried to hold onto both worlds—until everything came crashing down. An arrest in Florida and time in prison became the moment that changed everything. Bill opens up about the quiet conviction of the Holy Spirit, the unexpected peace he experienced in prison, and the powerful restoration of his relationship with his parents after years of distance. Through it all, you’ll hear how God pursued him—not with condemnation, but with grace. And how even the consequences of his choices became the very tools God used to reshape his life. Raised in the Catholic faith, Bill also shares about learning the difference between religion and relationship, and discovering that life is ultimately not about us—but about God’s greater purpose. This conversation will challenge you, encourage you, and remind you that no one is too far gone—and that God can use every part of your story for good. Follow Katharine and Eternal Echoes: Facebook and Instagram: @EternalEchoesMinistry TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@eternal.echoes.mi/ Substack: http://katharinerrose.substack.com Website: www.eternalechoesministry.com Email: ⁠⁠Katharine@eternalechoesministry.com⁠⁠ for speaking events or interviews Sow a seed: https://donorbox.org/eternal-echoes-giving Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=dK4LgxhO6g0&feature=youtu.be

Ep. 55: It’s Never Too Late: Facing Fear, Overcoming Rejection, and Living Your Dream at Any Age with Anona Tolar

What if it’s not too late – to pursue your dreams or live the life you always imagined? In this episode of Eternal Echoes, host Katharine Rose sits down with actress and breast cancer survivor Anona Tolar. Anona shares her journey of coming to faith at 16, laying down her dream of acting, and then—decades later—stepping back into it at age 50 with bold trust in God. From landing roles in films like Ride Along to working alongside industry icons like Glenn Close and Ron Howard, her story is a testament to God’s perfect timing and faithfulness. But beyond the spotlight, this episode dives deep into the heart. Anona vulnerably opens up about her lifelong struggle with believing she is truly loved and enough—and the pivotal moments where God met her in that pain. From a life-changing acting class breakthrough to surrendering fear during her battle with breast cancer, her testimony is filled with raw honesty and hope. You’ll walk away reminded that: -It is never too late to pursue the dreams God has placed in your heart -Rejection is not a reflection of your worth -Fear does not get the final say—faith does -And most importantly… you are already enough in Christ This conversation will stir your faith, challenge your perspective, and inspire you to take the next step of obedience—no matter your age or stage of life. Connect with Anona Tolar: IMBD: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5403522/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anonatolar/ Follow Katharine and Eternal Echoes: Facebook and Instagram: @EternalEchoesMinistry TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@eternal.echoes.mi/ Substack: http://katharinerrose.substack.com Website: www.eternalechoesministry.com Email: ⁠⁠Katharine@eternalechoesministry.com⁠⁠ for speaking events or interviews Sow a seed: https://donorbox.org/eternal-echoes-giving Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EA7QYrOS6g

Ep. 54: Lonely, Anxious, and Searching: Why Gen Z Needs Spiritual Mothers and Fathers

What if the solution to youth loneliness, identity confusion, and generational division isn’t another program—but a return to spiritual family? In this deeply moving episode on the Eternal Echoes podcast, Dr. Rich Griffith shares why identity confusion is rising, how cultural institutions have unintentionally abandoned young people, and why the Church must become a true spiritual family again. With insight from decades in youth ministry and his books "Voices" and "Reimagining Church as Family," Dr. Rich explains: -What’s really behind adolescent identity struggles -Why fear keeps generations apart -How to respond when young people ask hard questions -Why listening is one of the most powerful forms of discipleship -The simple first steps any church can take to bridge the gap This conversation is both sobering and hope-filled. If you care about the next generation—or feel unsure how to connect with them—this episode will inspire you to step through the door. Connect with Dr. Rich Griffith: Email: rwgriffith@tfc.edu Books: Voices: Helping Our Children and Youth Listen to Wise Counsel: https://www.amazon.com/Voices-Helping-Children-Listen-Counsel/dp/1614841640 Discipleship is Leadership: Stages of Generational Development: https://www.amazon.com/Discipleship-Leadership-Stages-Generational-Development/dp/1614841861 Reimagining Church as Family: https://www.amazon.com/Reimagining-Church-Family-Rich-Griffith/dp/1614841985 Follow Katharine and Eternal Echoes: Facebook and Instagram: @EternalEchoesMinistry TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@eternal.echoes.mi/ Substack: http://katharinerrose.substack.com Website: www.eternalechoesministry.com Email: ⁠⁠Katharine@eternalechoesministry.com⁠⁠ for speaking events or interviews Sow a seed: https://donorbox.org/eternal-echoes-giving Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHrv3Ap6Cs