Surviving the Sub-Internship: An Insider's Guide to Orthopaedic Away Rotations

Surviving the Sub-Internship: An Insider's Guide to Orthopaedic Away Rotations

Episode Summary With sub-internship (away rotation) season approaching, the hosts pull back the curtain on what orthopaedic faculty and residents are actually evaluating when a visiting medical student rotates through their program — and how to make the most of a high-stakes, high-anxiety few weeks that can shape where a student matches. Timestamps 00:00 — Intro Welcome and standard disclaimer: discussion is for informational purposes only, not professional medical advice. Setup for the episode topic — sub-internships and the residency match process. 00:30 — What sub-internships are and why they're stressful Framing the away rotation as an audition: students are trying to show programs who they are in a compressed, high-pressure window, often while living out of a temporary apartment in an unfamiliar city. 03:00 — What "being a good fit" actually means Programs are evaluating who they'll want to work closely with for 5 years — not just intelligence, but genuine likability and motivation. Surgical skill and knowledge can be taught; character is harder to change. 06:00 — Knowing your patients cold Being over-prepared on rounds — knowing the patient's history as well as or better than the intern — is one of the clearest signals of a strong sub-intern. Also covers outpatient/clinic prep and being a true team player, not just to faculty but to residents and staff alike. 09:00 — It's not about what you know — it's how you think Faculty don't expect med students to have read every paper. What stands out is how a student approaches an unfamiliar problem, reasons through it, and engages honestly rather than performing. Also: don't fake being busy or "look like you're learning" for show — it's noticeable. 12:00 — Phones, timing, and letters of recommendation Being visibly on your phone reads badly, even if you're doing legitimate reading between cases. Advice to request letters of recommendation about a week in advance so faculty can ask a few thoughtful questions about motivation and goals, rather than being asked last-minute. 15:00 — Flip the script: evaluating the program Sub-internships are a two-way evaluation. What to watch for: whether junior residents are progressing appropriately (a junior who already "knows everything" like a senior isn't actually a good sign — it may mean the program lacks structured teaching), how happy residents seem, and practical factors like hospital type (county vs. academic vs. hybrid) and commute/travel time. 18:00 — Talking about research in interviews Advice on discussing research authentically rather than treating it as a checklist. How to "spin" even offbeat research topics into a genuine, engaging conversation — with personal examples from silk moth cocoon biology to heart transplant genetics. 21:00 — Electives worth adding: psychiatry and emergency medicine A case for adding a real psychiatry rotation to build empathy and understanding of how depression, anxiety, and chronic pain intersect with orthopaedic care — plus a recommendation for an emergency medicine rotation to build consult and acute-care skills. 24:00 — Recommended resources and final advice A recommended online video resource for students transitioning from med student to resident, covering surgical basics and interview prep. Reflection on how important — and exciting — the sub-internship and match process is. 26:00 — Closing story and outro The hosts trade "craziest sub-I moment" stories, including a memorable case involving a corrective surgical procedure and a valet-parking mishap with a very expensive sports car. Standard sign-off and where to find the show on social media. Key Takeaways -Sub-internships are as much a character evaluation as a skills evaluation — programs are choosing a colleague for the next 5 years, not just a technically skilled trainee. -Being over-prepared on your patients and being genuinely kind to residents, faculty, and staff are among the strongest signals a program looks for. -Avoid "performing" for evaluators — faking productivity (phone use, fake studying) is more noticeable than students think. -Request letters of recommendation early — about a week ahead — to give faculty time for a thoughtful conversation. -Students should also be evaluating the program: resident happiness, teaching structure, and practical logistics all matter. -Consider adding psychiatry and emergency medicine electives for skills directly relevant to orthopaedic practice. Please subscribe to our podcast at  Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/6-8-weeks-perspectives-on-sports-medicine/id1523779833] Check out our website on Simplecast [https://peds-ortho.simplecast.com/]

Youth Soccer, the World Cup, and America's Pay-to-Play Problem

Youth Soccer, the World Cup, and America's Pay-to-Play Problem 6 to 8 Weeks: Perspectives in Sports Medicine Runtime:~23 minutes Episode Summary With the World Cup underway, the hosts ask a controversial question: why isn't the US better at men's soccer, given a talent pool that dwarfs countries like Belgium and Norway? The conversation pivots from there into the real subject of the episode — how America's pay-to-play youth sports system is driving both a talent gap and a youth injury epidemic, especially ACL and overuse injuries in young athletes. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 — Intro Welcome and standard disclaimer: discussion is for informational purposes only, not professional medical advice. 00:30 — Why isn't the US better at men's soccer? Framing question for the episode: the US has far more people than countries that regularly outperform it (Belgium, population 11.8M; Norway, population 5.6M), yet can't compete at the same level on the men's side — a contrast with the sustained success of the US women's national team. 02:30 — Setting up the real topic: youth injuries Transition into ACL and overuse injuries in young athletes, particularly young females, and how that connects to the US youth development model. 03:00 — The pay-to-play system How youth sports shifted over the past ~10–25 years from school and community leagues to private club/travel teams. Families now spend as much as $20,000/year on travel soccer and baseball. 05:00 — The numbers behind the industry Youth sports is cited as a ~$40 billion industry. Comparison of costs: a recreational league (e.g., AYSO) runs roughly $140–150/year, while an entry-level travel team runs about $1,700 and an academy-level club team about $3,500 — before uniforms, extra practices, or private coaching. 07:00 — Is this just a soccer problem? Discussion of whether this trend is soccer-specific or affects baseball, basketball, and volleyball too (it's across the board). The disappearance of casual pickup games and rec leagues in favor of organized, paid leagues. 09:00 — US vs. European development models European countries emphasize multi-sport participation and general athleticism (coordination, core strength) over early performance and specialization. Cited participation gap: roughly 90% multi-sport participation in some European countries vs. a steep drop-off in the US. 11:00 — The scholarship reality check The odds of a young athlete earning a college scholarship or going pro are extremely low. Recommendation: decisions about youth sports should center on the child's enjoyment and development, not a scholarship or pro chase. 13:00 — Why specialization raises injury risk Explanation of how single-sport specialization leads to repetitive stress on the same body parts, and how kids aren't developing the balanced strength, coordination, and movement patterns that protect against injury. European academy model contrasted as more balance- and skill-focused. 15:00 — Specialization and injuries at the pro level Early specialization linked to earlier injuries in professional athletes — for example, NBA players who specialized young tearing Achilles tendons earlier in their careers, and a rise in Tommy John (elbow) surgeries among teenage baseball players. Also: level of soccer access is often a financial decision, not a quality/skill decision — elite club access can cost $30,000+/year. 17:00 — Socioeconomic and geographic inequity Access to elite club teams correlates with socioeconomic status and geography. Talented kids in lower-income areas may never be discovered because showcases and elite coaching are gated by cost. 19:00 — The one big change If they could change one thing about the system: delay specialization and actively encourage multi-sport participation, especially early on, to reduce overuse injury risk. Advice for parents on how to guide kids toward a broader athletic foundation. 21:00 — Wrap-up and World Cup predictions Lighter closing segment with picks for the World Cup winner KEY TAKEAWAYS * The US pay-to-play youth sports model filters talent by financial access rather than ability — a likely contributor to underperformance in men's soccer relative to population size. * Early single-sport specialization is linked to higher rates of ACL tears and overuse injuries in youth athletes, and earlier injuries in those who go on to play professionally. * European development models emphasize multi-sport participation and general athleticism over early specialization and performance metrics. * The likelihood of a scholarship or professional career is very low — a useful reframe for parents weighing time and financial investment in club sports. * Socioeconomic and geographic barriers likely mean talented young athletes go undiscovered simply due to lack of access. Show notes generated from an automated transcription pass; timestamps are approximate. Please subscribe to our podcast at  Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/6-8-weeks-perspectives-on-sports-medicine/id1523779833] Check out our website on Simplecast [https://peds-ortho.simplecast.com/]

Sports Medicine and The World Cup: Breaking Down The Science

Episode Overview With Dr. Drew Lansdown away (and reportedly playing golf in Scotland), Brian and Nirav dive deep into the sports medicine landscape of the FIFA World Cup 2026. The episode covers the unique injury patterns in soccer, what surgeons and physicians need to understand about treating elite soccer players, and the injury prevention strategies that have strong data behind them. Key Topics Covered 1. Why Soccer Produces High Rates of Non-Contact Injuries • ACL tears are the defining non-contact injury in soccer ◦ Soccer is the #1 sport played by female athletes — a population with well-established higher ACL tear rates ◦ Quick acceleration, deceleration, and multi-directional cutting movements are intrinsic to the sport ◦ Cognitive load during play (split-second decision-making while in the air) increases landing mechanics risk ◦ Classic example: the Wayne Rooney-type ACL — trying to split a defender while thinking two steps ahead leads to a mis-step • Game structure contributes to higher injury numbers ◦ 11 players per side means more total athletes on the field ◦ Longer games (90 minutes vs. basketball or football quarters) ◦ Combined effect: more player-hours of exposure per match 2. Load Management & the World Cup Context • The World Cup paradox: fewer games per week than top club players are used to ◦ Example: Erling Haaland at Manchester City — club season + qualifiers + Champions League stacks up to more games/week than the World Cup ◦ The bigger concern is cumulative seasonal load, not the World Cup schedule itself • The World Cup is essentially an off-season add-on for elite players ◦ Comparable to asking NBA athletes to play the NBA season and then immediately compete in the Olympics • Travel is likely less of a factor than commonly assumed ◦ Elite clubs already manage heavy international travel; accommodations are often top-tier • Early specialization a compounding factor ◦ Many World Cup players have been playing since age 10–13 with little cross-sport participation, contributing to long-term cumulative load ◦ Notable exception: Norway — athletes there tend to play multiple sports 3. ACL Surgery Considerations for Soccer Players • Graft selection overview ◦ Bone-Patellar Tendon-Bone (BPTB): traditional gold standard — caveat is patella fracture risk with early falls onto the knee ◦ Quad Tendon: recent JBJS meta-analysis showed marginal superiority, but difference not clinically significant; less commonly used in soccer given importance of quad strength ◦ Hamstring ± Lateral Extra-Articular Tenodesis (LAT): widely used in the Premier League, largely driven by the influence of Andy Williams' work with top clubs • Return-to-play timeline ◦ Uniformly 9–12 months regardless of graft choice ◦ Phased rehab: gait & coordination → strength → agility → sport-specific • Key structural differences in elite soccer player care ◦ Academy pipeline provides high-quality early medical access — similar to minor league baseball feeder systems ◦ Bracing: elite soccer players use far fewer post-op braces and return-to-sport braces vs. American football or basketball athletes ◦ Less post-op bracing is not associated with worse outcomes in this population 4. Hamstring Injuries in Soccer • Most common injury type in soccer globally • High-speed sprinting is the primary mechanism ◦ The hamstring functions eccentrically during the late swing phase of sprinting — peak load occurs just before foot strike ◦ The injury moment is often at the point of maximal lengthening under force • Grading and prognosis ◦ Grade 1 (mild strain): return in 1–2 weeks ◦ Grade 2 (partial tear): 3–6 weeks depending on location and extent ◦ Grade 3 (complete rupture or proximal avulsion): potentially surgical; weeks to months • Proximal hamstring avulsions deserve specific attention ◦ Complete proximal avulsions (from the ischial tuberosity) are increasingly managed operatively in athletes ◦ Strong evidence for surgical repair in high-demand athletes who want to return to competitive sport • Nordic hamstring curls: effective prevention tool (discussed later in injury prevention section) 5. Ankle Injuries • Lateral ankle sprains are extremely common in soccer ◦ The ATF (anterior talofibular ligament) is most commonly injured ◦ Mechanism: plantar flexion + inversion, often from landing on another player's foot • The challenge of ankle turf toe and high ankle sprains ◦ Syndesmotic (high ankle) injuries are less common but significantly longer recovery — 6–10+ weeks • World Cup-specific context: artificial turf used in some venues ◦ Turf surfaces change force transmission through the ankle and may increase injury risk compared to natural grass 6. Muscle Cramps: A World Cup Staple • Muscle cramping is ubiquitous in World Cup play — especially in heat/humidity ◦ Not a sign of poor conditioning — even elite players cramp ◦ Players accustomed to cooler climates (Northern Europe) are particularly susceptible • Mechanism: combination of dehydration, electrolyte depletion, and neuromuscular fatigue • Cramping is functionally debilitating even though it is not a structural injury • Treatment/prevention: aggressive electrolyte repletion ◦ Pickle juice: Brian and Nirav discuss — strong evidence in ultra-endurance contexts; electrolyte content is the likely mechanism ◦ Bananas, electrolyte drinks, gels — all have their place ◦ "Anything that repletes electrolytes" will help — athlete preference matters 7. The Theatrics — Diving, Flopping & the Mystery Spray • Why do elite athletes go down so dramatically? ◦ Getting kicked in an unprotected lower extremity genuinely hurts — shin guards are getting smaller (Nirav jokes about a quarter-sized guard his daughter uses) ◦ Foul strategy: falling can draw calls or stop play — gamesmanship is real • The spray — what is it? ◦ Best evidence: a topical cooling spray similar to Icy Hot or ethyl chloride ◦ Temporarily numbs the skin and superficial nerve endings at the contusion site ◦ Not a structural fix — purely symptomatic/neurological effect on acute pain ◦ The shock of impact often wears off naturally — the spray may assist with that transition 8. Injury Prevention — What the Data Actually Shows • FIFA 11+ Program ◦ Developed by FIFA and extensively validated in peer-reviewed literature ◦ Components: core strengthening, glute/hamstring activation, agility drills ◦ Consistent reduction in injury rates by approximately 50% ◦ How to find it: search "FIFA 11+ injury prevention" (not just "FIFA 11" — that returns the video game) ◦ Widely implemented at elite levels; underutilized in youth soccer where practice time is dominated by skill drills and scrimmaging • Nordic Hamstring Curls ◦ Strong and growing evidence for both hamstring injury prevention AND ACL injury risk reduction ◦ Works by strengthening the hamstring eccentrically — addressing the exact mechanism of hamstring strains ◦ Compliance challenge: extraordinarily difficult to perform correctly, especially in older athletes ◦ Brian and Nirav agree: nearly impossible to complete a full set, especially with added weight • Implementation gap: what gets done vs. what works ◦ Youth coaches prioritize the "fun stuff" — drills, scrimmage — over warm-up protocols ◦ 15 minutes of evidence-based warm-up is a hard sell when kids are paying for club-level coaching and want to play Clinical Pearls for Practitioners • Graft selection for soccer players is multifactorial — consider quad strength demands and fall-on-knee risk before defaulting to BPTB • Post-op bracing: the European/Premier League model of minimal bracing in elite soccer players is worth considering — less may be more in highly compliant athletes • Proximal hamstring avulsions in competitive athletes warrant surgical consultation — non-operative outcomes in this population are often unsatisfactory • Cramping ≠ poor conditioning — counseling athletes and families on this distinction is important • FIFA 11+ should be part of any soccer athlete's injury prevention conversation, especially in youth programs • Nordic curls: prescribe them, warn patients they are difficult, and set realistic expectations Quotable Moments "The World Cup paradoxically is actually fewer games per week than a lot of these players are used to." — Dr. Feeley "It's like asking NBA athletes to come in, play the NBA season, and then play in the Olympics." — Dr. Feeley on cumulative load "Our youngest now uses something the size of a quarter... that's her shin guard." — Dr. Pandya on evolving shin guard trends "Nordic curls are almost impossible. That's why you see people doing them." — Dr. Feeley "Anything that repletes electrolytes is going to be beneficial." — Dr. Feeley on cramping management Please subscribe to our podcast at  Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/6-8-weeks-perspectives-on-sports-medicine/id1523779833] Check out our website on Simplecast [https://peds-ortho.simplecast.com/]

The Psychology of Healing

How is healing impacted beyond surgical technique, post-operative physical therapy, and activity goals? Listen to our latest podcast as Dr Brian Feeley breaks down factors you may not think about after surgery. Please subscribe to our podcast at  Apple Podcasts Check out our website on Simplecast

Traveling Fellowships: Vacation or Learning Experience??

A Surgeon Goes to Europe The AOSSM/ESCA Traveling Fellowship Hosts: Dr. Nirav Pandya & Dr. Brian Feeley Guest: Dr. Drew Lansdown Episode Summary Drew Lansdown is back from four weeks abroad — and we have questions. He was selected for the prestigious AOSSM/ESCA Traveling Fellowship, which sent him to six orthopedic centers across Europe before capping the trip at the ESCA annual meeting in Prague. In this episode, Drew tells us what orthopedic sports medicine actually looks like on the other side of the Atlantic — the similarities, the surprises, and what the US could genuinely learn." "What Is the AOSSM/ESCA Traveling Fellowship? The ESCA (European Society for Surgery of the Knee, Shoulder, and Arthroscopy) and AOSSM (American Orthopaedic Society for Sports Medicine) run a competitive exchange fellowship every few years. A small group of American surgeons visits leading European orthopedic centers, attends the ESCA meeting, and builds lasting international connections. AOSSM runs parallel exchanges with APCAS (Asia) and SLARD (South America), and also hosts incoming groups from those regions in return. Applicants apply through AOSSM membership, and selection is competitive. Drew's Itinerary: Amsterdam  Oslo  Brandenburg (outside Berlin)  Milan  Barcelona  Lyon  Prague (ESCA Meeting)" "Key Takeaways from the Episode More similar than different. The biggest surprise? How closely European sports medicine mirrors what's practiced in the US. Senior mentor Kurt Spindler — who did the same fellowship 30 years ago — noted that it felt very different back then. Today, both sides are drawing on the same evidence base and reaching similar clinical conclusions. On stem cells and biologics. After our recent episode on stem cells, Drew asked the European surgeons directly. Their answer: largely the same as ours. Stem cell therapies are considered niche, evidence is lacking, and they're not part of mainstream practice there either. The grass is not greener. OR efficiency that will make you jealous. The Amsterdam center had a five-minute room turnover. Not five minutes with a full crew frantically scrambling — just five minutes, because everyone knows their role and the workflow is seamless. They pre-stage the next case in an adjacent room. For context, we're happy with 20–30 minutes here. Patients expect to stay overnight. In much of Europe, outpatient surgery as we know it doesn't fully exist for orthopedic procedures. ACL reconstruction patients commonly stay one or two nights. Surgeons privately agreed it probably isn't medically necessary — but patient expectation is baked in. Tell a patient they're going home the same day, and they feel like you don't care. Training and mentorship. European medical education: 6 years of medical school straight from high school, followed by a 6-year orthopedic residency. Attendings at these centers often operate together more collaboratively, and junior surgeons remain in a mentorship-like structure for years after completing training — closer to a prolonged chief resident than independent practice. Visiting residents. At several sites, residents from other countries (many from Italy) were spending months training abroad as part of their own program — a built-in international exchange at the trainee level. The Barcelona schedule. OR block time starting at 3 PM, running until 10 PM. The surgeons saw patients or operated at another hospital in the morning, then transitioned to the evening shift. For the OR team, this was simply the norm. Unclear if anyone recommends this for the US." "If Drew Could Practice Anywhere in Europe...Northern Italy. The food and culture of Milan/Lake Como make a compelling argument. (He was encouraged to pursue this fellowship by his very supportive wife Annalise, as evidenced by the Instagram photos from Lake Como that we're still not entirely sure were real.)" Please subscribe to our podcast at  Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/6-8-weeks-perspectives-on-sports-medicine/id1523779833] Check out our website on Simplecast [https://peds-ortho.simplecast.com/]