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A network built on the idea of immutable, unstoppable code chose to freeze $71 million in stolen funds, and the man who helped design that power says he wants it gone. Steven Goldfeder, co-founder of Offchain and the architect behind Arbitrum, breaks down the tokenization of Wall Street, the future of Ethereum scaling, and why bringing institutions on chain forces hard questions decentralization was never meant to answer.Steven Goldfeder did not arrive at crypto through trading or speculation, but through a Princeton cryptography lab, where he co-authored the field's leading textbook and helped formalize the concept of MEV before co-founding Offchain (formerly Offchain Labs). The company now operates the full stack behind Arbitrum, the largest Ethereum Layer 2 by value secured, providing the infrastructure that lets institutions like Robinhood, BlackRock, and Franklin Templeton move real assets on chain. In this conversation with host Sri Misra, Goldfeder makes the case that scaling is a permanent cat-and-mouse game rather than a solved problem, explains why a European buying an Apple share on Robinhood may be using a blockchain without knowing it, and argues that holding USDC is fundamentally different from holding ETH. As tokenized real-world assets cross $30 billion and institutional adoption accelerates, this episode lands at the exact moment TradFi and DeFi begin collapsing into one system.👉Why Goldfeder believes scaling Ethereum will never be fully solved, and how Arbitrum keeps pushing chain capacity from gigagas toward higher limits👉How the Arbitrum Security Council froze $71 million in funds tied to the Kelp DAO hack, and why he still defends a decision purists called a betrayal👉What separates a programmable economy from today's manual financial markets, and how institutions can program their own compliance, privacy, and recourse rules👉Why Robinhood chose Arbitrum to put over 2,000 tokenized stocks on chain, and what optionality means when an institution does not yet know if it needs its own blockchain👉How blockchain settlement collapses a T+5 day wait into a single block, and why steel, GPUs, and equities are all becoming tokenized assetsSubscribe to un# for weekly founder conversations and follow Sri Misra on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/srimisra] for daily insights.00:00 - Why Offchain Dropped the Word Labs 02:19 - Rebranding Beyond Scaling Ethereum 06:55 - The Cryptography Origin of Arbitrum 12:58 - Arbitrum Before Ethereum Went Live 15:46 - Is the Scaling Trilemma Solved 17:16 - Building the Programmable Economy On Chain 20:00 - The $71M Kelp DAO Freeze 30:05 - A Future With No Security Council 40:54 - Robinhood and Tokenized Stocks On Arbitrum 46:47 - Tokenizing Steel, GPUs and Equities #StevenGoldfeder #Offchain #Arbitrum #SriMisra #Ethereum #Layer2 #Tokenization #RealWorldAssets #DeFi #CryptoPodcast #RobinhoodStocks #EthereumScaling #TokenizedStocks #BlackRockBUIDL #KelpDAOHack #CryptoRegulation #Web3Infrastructure #HowToTokenizeAssets #WhatIsArbitrumDisclaimer: The information presented is for educational purposes only. Views expressed are those of the speakers, not necessarily the channel. You are responsible for your own research and decisions.Copyright: © 2024 Aarna AI Pte Ltd, Singapore. All rights reserved.
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