CX Today
The Director of Pega's AI Lab breaks down the real mechanics behind agentic marketing operations and why "magical thinking" is killing AI projects before they start. In this CX Today discussion, Associate Editor Rhys Fisher sits down with Peter van der Putten, Director of the AI Lab and Lead Scientist at Pegasystems. With agentic AI dominating the conversation across the CX space, Peter cuts through the noise to explain what it actually takes to make it work in enterprise marketing, and why orchestration, not individual agent capability, is the real differentiator. If you're trying to separate genuine AI progress from hype, this one's worth your time. Agentic AI is everywhere right now, but most of the conversation stays frustratingly shallow. Peter van der Putten goes deeper, explaining how Pega's newly launched Customer Engagement Studio works alongside Customer Decision Hub to give marketers a governed, agent-powered path from brief to live campaign in minutes. Outcome-based pricing: Pega is making a bold move away from token-based costs, betting they can tie agentic AI tightly enough to business outcomes to charge on results instead. Left brain meets right brain: Peter explains how CDH has handled analytical decisioning for over 30 years, with Wells Fargo running 6 billion next best actions a month through it, and how Customer Engagement Studio layers in generative and agentic AI to solve the content and marketing ops bottleneck, not the decisioning one. How the agents actually work together: A conversational agent orchestrates specialized agents across marketing strategy, creative, data science, compliance, and performance, each with a defined role, none operating in a silo. Why 40% of agentic AI projects fail: Peter points to "magical thinking", the assumption that throwing agents at a problem will sort itself out. The fix is embedding agents into real workflows tied to measurable business and customer outcomes.
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