What the Return-to-Office Debate Gets Wrong

Are You a Preacher, Prosecutor, Scientist, or Politician?

Do you find yourself defaulting to “Preacher” mode when you’re under pressure, or starting to act like a “Prosecutor” when someone challenges your ideas? Brené and Adam unpack four mental modes – Preacher, Prosecutor, Politician, and Scientist – to explore why we often cling to being right rather than getting it right. In this episode, they discuss how these defensive stances are shaping our response to AI, Brené’s “bounce” method for emotional hypothesis-testing, Adam’s go-to “strategy of small losses,” and ways to stay curious when the stakes are high. You can find The Curiosity Shop on ⁠YouTube⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/@TheCuriosityShop?sub_confirmation=1__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTFsRe6vA$] and ⁠Instagram⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.instagram.com/thecuriosityshop__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTGyawp5c$] (@thecuriosityshop). 0:00 - Introduction and Emoting 3:00 - Thinking Under Thread 11:00 - Testing Your Gut with Small Experiments 22:30 - The Integrity of Commitment: The Making of This Podcast 27:15 - Four Thinking Modes: Scientist, Preacher, Prosecutor, Politician 33:57 - When Opinions Become Beliefs 42:48 - The Social Costs of Changing Our Minds 51:30 - A Missing Mental Model: Teacher 59:30 - Wrap up Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know - Adam Grant, 2021, Book [https://adamgrant.net/book/think-again/] Eric Ries on ‘The Lean Startup’ - Eric Ries, 2011, Knowledge at Wharton [https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/eric-ries-on-the-lean-startup/] Learning Through Failure: The Strategy of Small Losses - Sitkin, 1992, Research in Organizational Behavior [https://scholars.duke.edu/publication/913886] Affective Forecasting - Wilson & Gilbert, 2003, Advances in Experimental Social Psychology [https://web.mit.edu/curhan/www/docs/Articles/15341_Readings/Affect/AffectiveForecasting_WilsonGilbert.pdf] Atlas of the Heart - Brené Brown, 2021 (Book) [https://brenebrown.com/book/atlas-of-the-heart/] The Science of the Deal - Adam Grant, WorkLife with Adam Grant Podcast [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onaKlV8xoaY&t=180s] The Power of Vulnerability - Brené Brown, 2011, TED [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvmsMzlF7o] The Surprising Habits of Original Thinkers - Adam Grant, 2016, TED [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHuIGEz72Yd5Whlvvu4rTetx9PGIV69X6] Beliefs Are Like Possessions - Abelson, 2007, Journal for the Theory of Social Behaviour [https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1988-01402-001] We Need to Talk about Astrology - Adam Grant, 2024, Substack  [https://adamgrant.substack.com/p/we-need-to-talk-about-astrology] The Diplomat - Cahn et al., 2023-present, Let's Not Turn This Into a Whole Big Production & Well Red, Netflix (TV series) [https://www.netflix.com/title/81288983?trackId=259776131&trkId=259776131&src=tudum] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

BS Disclaimers, Invisible Armies, and the Importance of the Words We Choose

Brené and Adam discuss the power — and peril — of the words we choose. They dive into two Machiavellian communication tools that often do more harm than good: the "Invisible Army" and "BS Disclaimers". Brené explains why leading with “we” or “but” often comes across as requesting permission to escape accountability, which ultimately sacrifices trust more than anything. Adam explores how these tools can sometimes serve as survival strategies in toxic cultures, leading to a conversation on psychological safety, groupthink, and why precision of language is more important than ever — especially in a world that still judges based on gender and identity. You can find The Curiosity Shop on ⁠YouTube⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/@TheCuriosityShop?sub_confirmation=1__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTFsRe6vA$] and ⁠Instagram⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.instagram.com/thecuriosityshop__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTGyawp5c$] (@thecuriosityshop). 0:00 - Introduction 1:10 - The Invisible Army 15:23 - Speaking Up and Pluribus 21:26 - ‘But’ or Escaping Accountability? 40:59 - Responsibility Versus Accountability 46:22 - Judgment Based on Gender and Identity  1:01:55 - Takeaways From Today’s Episode Armored Versus Daring Leadership, Part 2 of 2 - Brené Brown, 2021, Dare to Lead (Podcast) [https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-on-armored-versus-daring-leadership-part-2-of-2/] Getting credit for proactive behavior: Supervisor reactions depend on what you value and how you feel - Grant et al., 2009, Personnel Psychology [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/211386766_Getting_credit_for_proactive_behavior_Supervisor_reactions_depend_on_what_you_value_and_how_you_feel] Plur1bus - Gilligan et al., 2025 - Present, Sony Pictures; Apple TV+ (TV series) [https://tv.apple.com/us/show/pluribus/umc.cmc.37axgovs2yozlyh3c2cmwzlza] Does Performance Improve Following Multisource Feedback? A Theoretical Model, Meta-Analysis, and Review of Empirical Findings - Smither et al., 2005, Personnel Psychology [https://leeds-faculty.colorado.edu/dahe7472/Smither%20performance.pdf] Feedback effectiveness: Can 360-degree appraisals be improved? - DeNisi et al., 2000, Academy of Management Perspectives [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274753349_Feedback_effectiveness_Can_360-degree_appraisals_be_improved] What Makes a 360-Degree Review Successful? - [https://hbr.org/2020/12/what-makes-a-360-degree-review-successful] Zenger and Folkman, 2020, Harvard Business Review [https://hbr.org/2020/12/what-makes-a-360-degree-review-successful] The bullshit asymmetry [sic]: the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger - Brandolini, A., 2013, Twitter [https://x.com/ziobrando/status/289635060758507521] The power of powerless speech: The effects of speech style and task interdependence on status conferral - Fragale, 2006, Organizational Behavior and Human Decision Processes [https://alisonfragale.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/AlisonFragale_PowerofPowerlessSpeach.pdf] How Can Women Escape the Compensation Negotiation Dilemma? Relational Accounts Are One Answer - Bowles et al., 2013, Psychology of Women Quarterly [https://scispace.com/pdf/how-can-women-escape-the-compensation-negotiation-dilemma-45crtyc15z.pdf] Likeable Badass: How Women Get the Success They Deserve - Fragale, 2024, Doubleday [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/712677/likeable-badass-by-alison-fragale-phd/] Strong Ground: The Lessons of Daring Leadership, the Tenacity of Paradox, and the Wisdom of the Human Spirit - Brené Brown, 2025, Random House [https://brenebrown.com/book/strong-ground/] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

What the Return-to-Office Debate Gets Wrong

In this episode of The Curiosity Shop, Brené Brown and Adam Grant dive into the return‑to‑office debate and argue that most conversations are stuck at the wrong level. Instead of asking “How many days in the office?”, they ask, “What problem are you actually trying to solve?” They explore evidence on hybrid work, weak‑tie innovation, culture and belonging, and why some leaders still cling to “butts in seats” as a proxy for performance. Along the way, they introduce a systems‑thinking “iceberg” tool for getting below the surface of policy fights to the patterns, structures, and mental models driving them. You can find The Curiosity Shop on ⁠YouTube⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/@TheCuriosityShop?sub_confirmation=1__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTFsRe6vA$] and ⁠Instagram⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.instagram.com/thecuriosityshop__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTGyawp5c$] (@thecuriosityshop). 0:00 - What’s Surprising Us About This Podcast?  1:49 - Return to Office  22:06 - Challenging Your Return to Office Mental Model 34:15 - Birth Order 40:18 - Tradeoff Between Authenticity and Editing https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/peps.12641 [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/peps.12641] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/worklife-with-adam-grant-the-dos-and-donts/id1346314086?i=1000565464077 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/worklife-with-adam-grant-the-dos-and-donts/id1346314086?i=1000565464077] https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/workplace/the-real-meaning-of-freedom-at-work-11633704877 [https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/workplace/the-real-meaning-of-freedom-at-work-11633704877] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/381373698_Hybrid_working_from_home_improves_retention_without_damaging_performance [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/381373698_Hybrid_working_from_home_improves_retention_without_damaging_performance] https://hbr.org/2014/01/to-raise-productivity-let-more-employees-work-from-home [https://hbr.org/2014/01/to-raise-productivity-let-more-employees-work-from-home] https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/seven-truths-about-hybrid-work-and-productivity/ [https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/seven-truths-about-hybrid-work-and-productivity/] https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-effects-of-remote-work-on-collaboration-among-Yang-Jaffe/bff6dabad6d264c0f34678a788e20df1b015656d [https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-effects-of-remote-work-on-collaboration-among-Yang-Jaffe/bff6dabad6d264c0f34678a788e20df1b015656d] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2041386614564105 [https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2041386614564105] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/44605966_The_Strength-of-Weak-Ties_Perspective_on_Creativity_A_Comprehensive_Examination_and_Extension [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/44605966_The_Strength-of-Weak-Ties_Perspective_on_Creativity_A_Comprehensive_Examination_and_Extension] https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~jure/pub/papers/granovetter73ties.pdf [https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~jure/pub/papers/granovetter73ties.pdf] https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1802407115 [https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1802407115] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361135288_Remote_Collaboration_Fuses_Fewer_Breakthrough_Ideas [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361135288_Remote_Collaboration_Fuses_Fewer_Breakthrough_Ideas] https://oms-www.files.svdcdn.com/production/downloads/academic/Disrupting-Science-Upload-2022-4.pdf [https://oms-www.files.svdcdn.com/production/downloads/academic/Disrupting-Science-Upload-2022-4.pdf] https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4675401 [https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4675401] https://www.atlassian.com/blog/distributed-work/intentional-togetherness-research [https://www.atlassian.com/blog/distributed-work/intentional-togetherness-research] https://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/ [https://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/] https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/coming-to-a-new-awareness-of-organizational-culture/ [https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/coming-to-a-new-awareness-of-organizational-culture/] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/10720537.2026.2613112?needAccess=true [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/10720537.2026.2613112?needAccess=true] https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1956-04524-000 [https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1956-04524-000] https://www.nber.org/papers/w30866 [https://www.nber.org/papers/w30866] https://www.amazon.com/Originals-How-Non-Conformists-Move-World/dp/014312885X https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1506451112 [https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1506451112] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

The Emotion Few Talk About, But Many Feel

From classrooms and locker rooms to workplaces and social media, Adam and Brené trace how shame and humiliation are used to control behavior and even fuel violence. They explore what causes shame, why our self-protective responses backfire, and how we can handle it more effectively. They also unpack the messy overlap between imposter syndrome and cultural pressures toward self-doubt. You can find The Curiosity Shop on ⁠YouTube⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/@TheCuriosityShop?sub_confirmation=1__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTFsRe6vA$] and ⁠Instagram⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.instagram.com/thecuriosityshop__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTGyawp5c$] (@thecuriosityshop). Chapter Titles + Timestamps: * 0:00 - Introduction * 2:10 - The One, Two, Threes of Shame * 8:52 - The New Research on Humiliation * 14:04 - What Is Humiliation? * 18:30 - Why Don’t People Outgrow Shame? * 29:09 - How to Help People Out of Shame? * 38:05 - Reconnecting Your Prefrontal Cortex Post-Shame * 42:55 - How Does Shame Relate to Imposter Syndrome? * 50:10 - Biggest Takeaways About Shame, Guilt, Humiliation, and Embarrassment Why Feelings of Guilt May Signal Leadership Potential - Marina Krakovsky, 2012, Insights by Stanford Business (Introducing the work of Schaumberg)  [https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/why-feelings-guilt-may-signal-leadership-potential] Unwanted identities: A key variable in shame-anger links and gender differences in shame - Ferguson et al., Sex Roles [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226845367_Unwanted_Identities_A_Key_Variable_in_Shame-Anger_Links_and_Gender_Differences_in_Shame] Humiliation: Causes, correlates, and consequences - Elison & Harter, 2007, from The self‑conscious emotions: Theory and research  [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312630733_Humiliation_Causes_correlates_and_consequences] Healing Humiliation: From Reaction to Creative Action - Hartling & Linder, 2016, Journal of Counseling & Development [https://www.humiliationstudies.org/documents/hartling/HealingHumiliation2016.pdf] Shame and Humiliation: From Isolation to Relational Transformation - Hartling et al., Stone Center for Developmental Services and Studies [https://www.humiliationstudies.org/documents/hartling/HartlingShameHumiliation.pdf] Strengthening resilience in a risky world: It’s all about relationships - Hartling, 2003, Women & Therapy  [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233230821_Strengthening_Resilience_in_a_Risky_World_It's_All_About_Relationships] Stop Telling Women They Have Imposter Syndrome - Ruchika Tulshyan & Jodi-Ann Burey, 2021, Harvard Business Review [https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-women-they-have-imposter-syndrome] How imposter syndrome can be your superpower - MIT Sloan Office Of Communications, 2025 (Introducing the work of Basima Tewfik) [https://mitsloan.mit.edu/press/how-imposter-syndrome-can-be-your-superpower] Unmasking the Impostor - MIT Sloan Office of Communications, 2025 (Tewfik, Debunking 4 myths)  [https://mitsloan.mit.edu/press/unmasking-impostor] Listening to shame, Brené Brown, 2012, TED [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psN1DORYYV0] The Power of Vulnerability, Brené Brown, 2011, TED [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvmsMzlF7o] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

Uncertainty is Not the Enemy

Today's episode is about learning to sit with uncertainty. The episode opens with a discussion of listener questions on how to handle risk, the ingredients of a great apology, and why people stay loyal to relationships and organizations that quietly drain them. Then Brené and Adam turn to uncertainty – how our brains are wired for a threat response, what intolerance of uncertainty actually is, and why it can drive people toward authoritarian leaders.   You can find The Curiosity Shop on ⁠YouTube⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/@TheCuriosityShop?sub_confirmation=1__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTFsRe6vA$] and ⁠Instagram⁠ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.instagram.com/thecuriosityshop__;!!IBzWLUs!RWqxtWpgX9qIU0K15Jk0Nrnx-YKMF7Os5xTWxu7a9mkwDxjxHvdtnlwWDkohXXB5WP5oJJJlosKZ9PkHdN2fEiwkC4kTGyawp5c$] (@thecuriosityshop). 0:00 - Introduction and Guest Questions 3:20 - Is Risk Something to Review or Reveal 13:40 - Why do People Stay Loyal to Bad Relationships? 22:28 - Strategies for Apologizing and Repair 32:33 - Is Uncertainty a Strength or Deficit for Leaders? 40:15 - Intolerance for Uncertainty 52:00 - Terror Management Theory and our Response to Uncertainty 59:50 - How Can We Manage Uncertainty 1:05:00 - Closing Show Notes: Capabilities, Cognition and Inertia: Evidence from Digital Imaging - Tripsas and Gavetti, 2000, Harvard Business School (Polaroid Study) [https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/00-067_cdcafdf1-d946-44ec-96ad-558ad606477d.pdf] The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation, and Growth - Amy Edmondson, 2019, Book [https://amycedmondson.com/psychological-safety/] Is it Safe to Speak Up at Work? - Adam Grant and Amy Edmonson, July 2021, Worklife with Adam Grant Podcast [https://www.ted.com/talks/worklife_with_adam_grant_is_it_safe_to_speak_up_at_work] Anchored, Aligned, Accountable: A Framework for Transcending Bullsh*t and Transforming Our Lives and Work (Foreword by Brené Brown) - Aiko Bethea, 2026, Book [https://www.amazon.com/Anchored-Aligned-Accountable-Transcending-Transforming/dp/0593732162] Predicting Exit Voice Loyalty and Neglect - Withey and Cooper, 1989, Administrative Science Quarterly [https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Predicting-Exit,-Voice,-Loyalty,-and-Neglect.-Withey-Cooper/fcb359fca6d04aacc3c560f0bd11fb2bfc281aa8] Exit, Voice, and Loyalty: Responses to Decline in Firms, Organizations, and States -  Albert Hirschman,1970, Book [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268485669_Hirschman_and_Voice/link/5b571700aca27217ffb7b806/download?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19] The Decision Lab: System Justification Theory [https://thedecisionlab.com/reference-guide/sociology/system-justification-theory] The Secrets of a Great Apology - Adam Grant and Beth Polin, 2025, WorkLife with Adam Grant Podcast [https://www.ted.com/pages/the-secrets-of-a-great-apology-transcript] The Dance of Anger: A Woman's Guide to Changing the Patterns of Intimate Relationships - Harriet Lerner, 2025, Book [https://www.amazon.com/Dance-Anger-Changing-Patterns-Relationships/dp/0062319043] I’m Sorry: How to Apologize and Why It Matters, Part 1 of 2 - Brené Brown and Harriet Lerner, 2020, Unlocking Us with Brene Brown Podcast [https://brenebrown.com/podcast/harriet-lerner-and-brene-im-sorry-how-to-apologize-why-it-matters-part-1-of-2/] Conclave - Robert Harris, 2016, Book [https://bookshop.org/p/books/conclave-robert-harris/8e71e23a28df2e93?source=aw&sv1=affiliate&sv_campaign_id=449857&utm_source=awin&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=449857&utm_term=0&sscid=92005_1776076021_301f35b7503e6d13630c0fd15d67ed9c&awc=92005_1776076021_301f35b7503e6d13630c0fd15d67ed9c] A Comprehensive Analysis of COVID-19 Misinformation, Public Health Impacts, and Communication Strategies: Scoping Review - Kisa, 2024, Journal of Medical Internet Research   [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383395233_A_Comprehensive_Analysis_of_COVID-19_Misinformation_Public_Health_Impacts_and_Communication_Strategies_Scoping_Review] Into the Unknown: A Review and Synthesis of Contemporary Models Involving Uncertainty - Carleton, 2016, Journal of Anxiety Disorders [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0887618516300251] Conceptual Models of Generalized Anxiety Disorder - Fisher and Wells, 2011, Psychiatric Annals  [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/269477556_Conceptual_Models_of_Generalized_Anxiety_Disorder] The Other Side of Change: Who We Become When Life Makes Other Plans - Maya Shankar, 2026, Book   [https://mayashankar.com/] Aftereffects of Stress on Human Performance and Social Behavior: A Review of Research and Theory - Cohen (Includes the work of Glass and Singer), 1980, Carnegie Mellon Research University [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sheldon-Cohen/publication/15796493_Aftereffects_of_stress_on_human_performance_and_social_behavior_A_review_of_research_and_theory/links/02e7e52a86a0842d4f000000/Aftereffects-of-stress-on-human-performance-and-social-behavior-A-review-of-research-and-theory.pdf] Hofstede's Cultural Dimensions on Uncertainty Avoidance [https://geerthofstede.com/culture-geert-hofstede-gert-jan-hofstede/6d-model-of-national-culture/] Compensatory Conviction in the Face of Personal Uncertainty: Going to Extremes and Being Oneself - Mcgregor et al., 2001, Journal of Personality and Social Psychology [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12032918_Compensatory_conviction_in_the_face_of_personal_uncertainty_Going_to_extremes_and_being_oneself] Are Needs to Manage Uncertainty and Threat Associated With Political Conservatism or Ideological Extremity? - Jost et al, 2007, Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6216707_Are_Needs_to_Manage_Uncertainty_and_Threat_Associated_With_Political_Conservatism_or_Ideological_Extremity] The Causes and Consequences of a Need For Self-esteem: A Terror Management Theory - Greenberg, Pyszczynski, & Solomon, 1986, Book chapter [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Tom-Pyszczynski/publication/200008816_Public_Self_and_Private_Self/links/548f78840cf2d1800d86276b/Public-Self-and-Private-Self.pdf] Foolproof: Why We Fall for Misinformation and How to Build Immuninity - Sander van der Linden, 2023, Book [https://www.sandervanderlinden.com/] Utterly Humbled by Mystery - Richard Rohr, 2006, NPR Morning Edition [https://www.npr.org/2006/12/18/6631954/utterly-humbled-by-mystery] Learn more about your ad choices. 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