Executives Unplugged
Three top executive recruiters and Foursquare founder Dennis Crowley reveal why the candidate with the perfect resume is usually the wrong hire — and how to find the right one. Most CEO-CPO relationships fail within the first 18 months and a lot of that pain starts with how the hire was made in the first place. In this episode, I sat down with three of the best executive recruiters in the business — Chris Running, Jodi Jefferson, and Michael Cullen — plus Dennis Crowley, founder of Foursquare and Hopscotch Labs, to unpack the biggest mistakes founders and CEOs make when hiring their first VP of Product or CPO at Series A through Series C companies. We cover: why many searches derail, the logo trap that seduces hiring managers into picking the wrong candidate, why you should look for trajectory over altitude, the management answer that's a complete red flag, how AI fluency is reshaping what "great" looks like in a product leader, and what it actually takes to close top talent in a market that's shifting fast. Whether you're a founder about to make this hire or a product leader evaluating your next opportunity, this episode gives you the playbook from both sides of the table. Chapters 01:13 Start With Why 03:10 Avoid Logo Trap 04:28 Real Search Example 07:50 Trajectory Not Altitude 08:48 Assess Judgment & Speed 10:52 Culture Fit Walkthrough 12:28 Management In Details 13:59 AI Native Leaders 17:15 Hiring With Conviction 19:23 Candidate Due Diligence 20:48 Align Expectations 23:19 Close The Candidate 25:13 The Market Shift 26:14 Five Takeaways Find the guests on LinkedIn: Jodi Jefferson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodijefferson/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodijefferson/] Michael Cullen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cullenmm/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cullenmm/] Chris Running: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-running-a94a8025/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-running-a94a8025/] Dennis Crowley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpstyles/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpstyles/]
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