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Corporate Greed And Chemical Recycling

28 min · 17. juni 2026
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More than three years after the Norfolk Southern derailment in East Palestine shocked the nation, many Americans assume the crisis is over. And while the cameras may have left and the story has faded from the headlines, the fight ensues. In fact, some of the most consequential battles are happening right now and largely out of public view. From efforts to weaken chemical safety regulations to debates over rail industry consolidation and so-called “chemical recycling,” the decisions being made today could affect how communities across the country are protected from hazardous materials for years to come. That’s why I invited Jess Conard, founder of RailWatch, back to Facts Over Fear. Jess recently traveled to Washington, D.C., to lobby lawmakers to preserve the Toxic Substances Control Act, a cornerstone of chemical safety regulation that has helped evaluate the risks associated with substances such as asbestos, formaldehyde, and vinyl chloride. It’s the same law advocates used to push for greater scrutiny of vinyl chloride following the East Palestine disaster. She was also there to advocate for stronger rail safety measures and to raise concerns about a proposed merger between Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific, a move critics argue could increase corporate concentration while creating new challenges for workers, regulators, and communities located along freight routes. Notably, former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg recently highlighted RailWatch during a public event, (go to 1:33:00 to listen) signaling that the concerns raised by community advocates are reaching some of the highest levels of transportation policy discussions. But advocates argue recognition alone isn't enough. The larger question remains whether policymakers are truly listening to the communities living alongside rail lines and chemical facilities every day. At the center of all of these issues is a larger question: Who bears the risk when corporations prioritize growth, consolidation, and efficiency over public health and safety? In this conversation, we discuss: • Why the Toxic Substances Control Act matters to every American • What could happen if key chemical safety protections are weakened • The truth behind “chemical recycling” and why critics are sounding the alarm • Whether rail safety reforms promised after East Palestine are actually happening • The potential consequences of a Norfolk Southern–Union Pacific merger • Why community advocates believe public attention is needed now more than ever FOLLOW NATALIE substack: https://substack.com/@factsoverfearnatalieb instagram: https://www.instagram.com/@nataliebencivenga/# tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nataliebencivenga threads: https://www.threads.com/@nataliebencivenga podcast via spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/47JYsn9LQchErS3cnHP2YF podcast via apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/facts-over-fear/id1855901950 FACTS OVER FEAR Let's dismantle the fear that is used to divide us surrounding the issues impacting the people and talk facts. ABOUT NATALIE Natalie Bencivenga is a socially-conscious journalist working towards building equity in our communities through storytelling. Her goal is to inspire, educate and activate people to become catalysts for positive change. Join her for transformative conversations that uplift and challenge the ways in which we perceive the world. Let's turn this moment into a movement – together.

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Corporate Greed And Chemical Recycling

More than three years after the Norfolk Southern derailment in East Palestine shocked the nation, many Americans assume the crisis is over. And while the cameras may have left and the story has faded from the headlines, the fight ensues. In fact, some of the most consequential battles are happening right now and largely out of public view. From efforts to weaken chemical safety regulations to debates over rail industry consolidation and so-called “chemical recycling,” the decisions being made today could affect how communities across the country are protected from hazardous materials for years to come. That’s why I invited Jess Conard, founder of RailWatch, back to Facts Over Fear. Jess recently traveled to Washington, D.C., to lobby lawmakers to preserve the Toxic Substances Control Act, a cornerstone of chemical safety regulation that has helped evaluate the risks associated with substances such as asbestos, formaldehyde, and vinyl chloride. It’s the same law advocates used to push for greater scrutiny of vinyl chloride following the East Palestine disaster. She was also there to advocate for stronger rail safety measures and to raise concerns about a proposed merger between Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific, a move critics argue could increase corporate concentration while creating new challenges for workers, regulators, and communities located along freight routes. Notably, former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg recently highlighted RailWatch during a public event, (go to 1:33:00 to listen) signaling that the concerns raised by community advocates are reaching some of the highest levels of transportation policy discussions. But advocates argue recognition alone isn't enough. The larger question remains whether policymakers are truly listening to the communities living alongside rail lines and chemical facilities every day. At the center of all of these issues is a larger question: Who bears the risk when corporations prioritize growth, consolidation, and efficiency over public health and safety? In this conversation, we discuss: • Why the Toxic Substances Control Act matters to every American • What could happen if key chemical safety protections are weakened • The truth behind “chemical recycling” and why critics are sounding the alarm • Whether rail safety reforms promised after East Palestine are actually happening • The potential consequences of a Norfolk Southern–Union Pacific merger • Why community advocates believe public attention is needed now more than ever FOLLOW NATALIE substack: https://substack.com/@factsoverfearnatalieb instagram: https://www.instagram.com/@nataliebencivenga/# tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nataliebencivenga threads: https://www.threads.com/@nataliebencivenga podcast via spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/47JYsn9LQchErS3cnHP2YF podcast via apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/facts-over-fear/id1855901950 FACTS OVER FEAR Let's dismantle the fear that is used to divide us surrounding the issues impacting the people and talk facts. ABOUT NATALIE Natalie Bencivenga is a socially-conscious journalist working towards building equity in our communities through storytelling. Her goal is to inspire, educate and activate people to become catalysts for positive change. Join her for transformative conversations that uplift and challenge the ways in which we perceive the world. Let's turn this moment into a movement – together.

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Here's How Kenyan McDuffie Will Change Washington

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