Jason Caras | Outsourcing Growth, Building Culture, & Scaling to Millions | GROW Limitless | EP 17

Paul Doggett | AI Is the Biggest Opportunity MSPs Will Ever See | GROW Limitless | EP 20

AI is not something MSPs can ignore anymore. It is already reshaping how businesses operate, and the MSPs that move early will have a massive advantage. In this episode, Terry Hedden sits down with Paul Doggett from ThinkBridge to break down what AI actually means for MSP growth. This is not theory. It is a real conversation about how MSPs can start winning with AI today. Paul shares why most MSPs are not prepared to sell or deliver AI, and how that gap is creating both risk and opportunity. The conversation focuses on how to bring AI to market without building everything internally, using partnerships, process, and smarter positioning. This episode is about shifting from traditional IT conversations into business outcomes. AI changes the role of the MSP from support provider to growth driver, helping clients automate, scale, and operate more efficiently. What You’ll Learn • Why AI is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for MSPs • The biggest gap between AI demand and MSP readiness • How to sell AI without building a full internal team • Why MSP messaging must evolve beyond support and security • The revenue potential behind AI-driven services • How partnerships accelerate speed to market • Why waiting puts your business at risk The next phase of MSP growth is already here. The only question is whether you move now or get left behind. Subscribe for more real MSP growth strategies and leadership insights from operators building scalable businesses. 📩 Newsletter: https://marketopia.com/who-we-are/res... 🌐 GROW Community: https://marketopia.com/community/📱 Follow Marketopia: Facebook: / growlimitlesspodcast X: / marketopiatgm Instagram: / marketopiatgm LinkedIn: / marketopia

Intuist AI | How MSPs Can Sell AI Without Building It Themselves | GROW Limitless | EP 19

AI is the biggest opportunity MSPs have ever seen but most are stuck on one question: how do you sell and deliver it without becoming an AI expert overnight? In this episode of GROW Limitless, Terry Hedden sits down with Clint Parr and Johri Dhanotra from Intuist to break down a new approach to AI in the channel. Instead of forcing MSPs to build everything from scratch, they share how MSPs can sell AI today, fulfill it through partnership, and create massive new revenue streams without adding complexity. You will hear how MSPs can tap into growing demand for AI strategy, automate internal operations, and deliver real business outcomes for clients without hiring large AI teams. From co-selling and fulfillment to agent-based automation and SMB transformation, this episode outlines what it actually takes to win in AI right now. This is not theory. This is a practical path for MSPs to move fast, capture market share, and build scalable, high-margin AI services. What You’ll Learn • Why MSPs are perfectly positioned to lead AI adoption in the SMB market • How to sell AI without building in-house expertise • The role of partnerships in accelerating AI revenue • How AI agents can transform operations and increase profitability • What the shift from seat-based pricing to outcome-based pricing means for MSPs • How to scale recurring revenue with AI across your existing client base If you are trying to figure out where AI fits into your MSP strategy, this episode will give you a clear, actionable direction. Subscribe for more real MSP growth strategies, AI insights, and leadership conversations from operators building what’s next. 📩 Newsletter: https://marketopia.com/who-we-are/resources/news-blog/ 🌐 GROW Community: https://marketopia.com/community/📱 Follow Marketopia: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/growlimitlesspodcast/ X: https://twitter.com/marketopiatgmInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/marketopiatgm/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/marketopia/

Reinventing the Channel: How Marketopia Is Changing MSP Growth Forever | GROW Limitless | EP 18

What if vendors helped fund your growth instead of just selling through you? In this episode of GROW Limitless, Terry Hedden and Andra Hedden break down one of the biggest shifts the IT channel has seen in decades. Marketopia is redefining how MSPs, vendors, and growth partners work together by introducing a new model that aligns incentives, lowers marketing costs, and drives real revenue growth. This is not just another marketing strategy. It is a complete rethinking of distribution, lead generation, and how MSPs scale in the age of AI. You will hear how Channel Growth as a Service is helping vendors reinvest into partner success, while MSPs gain access to marketing, lead generation, and new revenue streams without carrying the full burden alone. The conversation also dives into the massive opportunity AI is creating and why MSPs must evolve quickly or risk falling behind. From new profit streams to ethical responsibility, this episode lays out exactly what it takes to win in the next phase of the channel. If you are an MSP owner, vendor, or growth leader, this is a must-listen. What You’ll Learn • What Channel Growth as a Service means for vendors and MSPs • How to reduce marketing costs while increasing lead generation • Why AI is creating a trillion-dollar opportunity for MSPs • How to unlock new recurring revenue streams without adding overhead • The mindset shift required to survive and scale in today’s market Subscribe for more real MSP growth strategies, leadership insights, and conversations shaping the future of the IT channel. 📩 Newsletter: https://marketopia.com/who-we-are/res... [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbjFhM1otWmF1d2ZpMHBQUUMwaUxkY1Y0eVhpd3xBQ3Jtc0trY1NEazE5X2tzMDU2N01tbGVpdFFmZk9FQkxXR1ZubjJ2ZXR1SkZOSW83OWNjSGl6cW5WazRDSFdFLUlONnVfWjRkOVd6eGI2cGRHdGVDWGhwN3NtVC00SGxFLVZNOXNnTTVqdDFhV1RfRTVrbWRwTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fmarketopia.com%2Fwho-we-are%2Fresources%2Fnews-blog%2F&v=7oyjVuQIIoM] 🌐 GROW Community: https://marketopia.com/community/ [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbDNYY29kUFBCUmlRVjFxN0ItelB1T0RGTU02d3xBQ3Jtc0tsTkRVUFJ0dFlUbHoxUjhRSkpNSVpRZDFRTjNQY3djTXN0d1UwLTNjOTQ2SlhpblpLNC05RjBoVVdBeWgxUk43aFNxQ0lRek1oLS03OVBqcHFleXhVUkFWMVhFUGNsaU9OMHZCTi1taWdYTVNzVG8ydw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fmarketopia.com%2Fcommunity%2F&v=7oyjVuQIIoM] 📱 Follow Marketopia: Facebook:   / marketopiamarketing   [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkJtazBrTWY4LWVzNDc0OWltbWNmVW9DYWE3Z3xBQ3Jtc0trejV0VG9wUHRNYVV2VV9pUVBsa2dYWm5IT25fajdTN1ZWOEF2V2tCS25nc1B0RG5BQ0pYNWZrekVVSnNIWFNmb2VzUmZraWVFWDhYT2tZMDJpV2hZZXdDTE8xeUJsdTBjVGZUUkV1cVV4N09KZDlNYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FMarketopiaMarketing%2F&v=7oyjVuQIIoM]X:   / marketopiatgm   [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWZ2d1V2aGhkZUk3cEh1WUk4RXZnMmFxMVQ5QXxBQ3Jtc0ttU011WU5SUl80WXRqUUcxQTVxS195TkphbkdNcmdzcmNxT3psRkl0cVNGMDFXUk8wSjB5cEF5cUQwRS1qcnRtaWlRdlJtTFlOMFNSdzZKNzJBU09LR3ZfSC1LbG1nZUdncXdOTXFWcUlxcmp3UXVScw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fmarketopiatgm&v=7oyjVuQIIoM]Instagram:   / marketopiatgm   [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbURJdFNKMUJNS2VuZWlhNGdFTWhqRmI2UTVEUXxBQ3Jtc0trTU51YU45dVZMalZHY3dGTWpaMW84aDNOMjBTd1pNcjZaXzJKSVZTanRSbGlEUnRsbjdMYkVMUmlySDdweGViOF8zaXFzVjBJU0VSU0txTm5MZ0d3SGExOXVGcDdWT3c0TC1zcnZ6WTNBNjk4a3lQdw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmarketopiatgm%2F&v=7oyjVuQIIoM] LinkedIn:   / marketopia   [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbXVGWkdvRXQ1OHlTTHgzcEhCNjJ5RGRhWlpfQXxBQ3Jtc0trendZSmxHbGVxRUJqOEl5aXFGczBOS3k1QnBzakc3WXJKZGhUTGsxOUZGMHRjSG9jaVNpUFRoZUZZTGt6ajJnQ2ZOWHJFV3ZZMWh5WG9MUE5YbVZfWElsRU9IajM5Z1BTSWI4WjAxczE0N1hPVk1Edw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Fmarketopia%2F&v=7oyjVuQIIoM]

Jason Caras | Outsourcing Growth, Building Culture, & Scaling to Millions | GROW Limitless | EP 17

Jason Caras built IT Authorities from the ground up with just $5,000 and a credit card. What followed was a journey of rapid MSP growth, major enterprise wins, hard lessons in leadership, and a powerful comeback story rooted in discipline and resilience. In this episode, Jason shares how he scaled through referrals instead of traditional MSP marketing, built a culture that employees owned and enforced, and navigated the highs and lows of growing a multi-million dollar IT services business. From landing major clients to rebuilding after setbacks, this conversation delivers real insight into what it takes to grow, scale, and sustain an MSP. This is a conversation about mindset, leadership, and building a business that can survive both success and failure. What You’ll Learn • How to scale an MSP using referrals and relationship-driven sales • Why culture must be owned by the team, not just leadership • The role of process and discipline in predictable MSP growth • What happens when you lose control of financials and how to recover • How resilience and mindset shape long-term success Subscribe for more real MSP growth stories and leadership lessons from operators who are building for the long term. 📩 Newsletter: https://marketopia.com/who-we-are/resources/news-blog/ 🌐 GROW Community: https://marketopia.com/community/ 📱 Follow Marketopia: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarketopiaMarketing/X: https://twitter.com/marketopiatgmInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/marketopiatgm/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/marketopia/

Michelle Ragusa-McBain | Build a World-Class Channel Program That Produces | GROW Limitless | EP 16

Michelle Ragusa-McBain has spent more than two decades building and rebuilding channel programs inside major organizations and high-growth cybersecurity companies. In this episode, she shares what actually makes a program work long term: listen first, find the weak links, and fix what is keeping partners from producing. Michelle breaks down why product alone rarely wins in competitive markets, how vendors can become easier to do business with, and why onboarding and enablement are where most programs either succeed or fail. She also explains why MDF is often underutilized, how advisory councils should be built to surface real issues, and why partners should stop waiting and start asking vendors for what they need. This conversation is a practical playbook for vendors and channel leaders who want a partner program that does more than look good on paper. What You’ll Learn • How to build a partner program that drives real revenue • Why onboarding and enablement are the fastest path to partner success • What causes MDF programs to underperform and how to improve utilization • How to get honest partner feedback and fix weak links quickly • Why AI will reshape enablement and execution across the channel Subscribe for more episodes on MSP growth, channel leadership, and the systems that turn strategy into execution. 📩 Newsletter: https://marketopia.com/who-we-are/resources/news-blog/ 🌐 GROW Community: https://marketopia.com/community/