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Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan on surviving the transition from dev to founder.
Ben Spent $600 on Amp credits
The boys are back and Ben has been coding! Amp vs Claude Code vs Codex. Clawdbot. The Agentification Era. Sorry about Ben's audio. We think it was Riverside's fault, sadly.
2024 year in review and plans for 2025
In this episode, Adam and Ben sit down to reflect on how things went in 2024 in their business and personal lives and talk about their plans for 2025.
Catching up
Adam and Ben are back on the mics after nine months to give an update on their lives. Timestamps * (00:00) - Catching up * (00:18) - Fitness update * (18:13) - House updates * (24:53) - Ben update * (35:11) - Tailwind Labs update Links * Adam on X [https://x.com/adamwathan] * Ben on X [https://x.com/r00k]
Hiring for tiny teams with Justin Jackson
Adam just wrapped up a big hiring project at Tailwind Labs, adding both a new engineer and a new designer to the team. In this episode he talks through the process with Justin Jackson, founder of Transistor [https://transistor.fm/], to compare notes and record what worked, what didn't, and how he will approach hiring in the future after going through this process. Timestamps * (00:00) - Talking hiring with Justin Jackson from Transistor * (01:05) - Adam's recent hiring project at Tailwind Labs * (02:00) - Justin's history with hiring at Transistor * (03:51) - How Transistor recruited their team * (05:48) - Background on Adam's hiring project * (16:54) - How to stand out as a candidate * (26:29) - Who applied at Tailwind Labs — and who didn't * (35:26) - Who ended up getting the offers * (39:28) - The interview process * (53:49) - Finding candidates, relationship building, and increasing luck surface area Links * Job postings for the roles at Tailwind Labs [https://tailwindcss.com/blog/hiring-a-design-engineer-and-staff-engineer] * Adam on X [https://x.com/adamwathan] * Ben on X [https://x.com/r00k] * Justin on X [https://x.com/mijustin]
Ben steps away from Tuple
After almost six years, Ben [https://twitter.com/r00k] has stepped away from day-to-day work on Tuple [https://tuple.app] and moved to its board. Friend of the pod Aaron Francis [https://twitter.com/aarondfrancis] interviews Ben about the whole beautiful, complicated, enriching experience. As a treat, the boys dive into what's next for Aaron as well.
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