Midnight Horror Picture Show
Twenty years after Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon quietly left theaters and found its true home in the horror community's hearts — and Blockbuster aisles — Leslie Vernon is coming back. And on this episode of Midnight Horror Picture Show, we sat down with the two people most responsible for making him an icon.Nathan Baesel, the Juilliard- and UCLA-trained actor who brought Leslie to life with that impossible mix of charisma and menace, and David J. Stieve, the screenwriter who built the character from the ground up and is now writing Behind the Mask 2: The Return of Leslie Vernon, join us for one of the most in-depth conversations about this cult classic we've ever put on record.We also go deep on: * Why Leslie Vernon isn't a villain (at least not to his creators) * Nathan's personal connection to the character — and how his own hunger for validation became the performance * David's philosophy on writing Leslie as a metaphor for any outsider trying to break into a difficult world * Why the original script ended completely differently — and how the entire third act was a late addition * The future of indie horror distribution, and why the team is bypassing traditional Hollywood for Behind the Mask 2🎃 LINKS:Behind the Mask 2 Kickstarter (late pledges still open): https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/... [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbVQ0WVhHWWp4OVkyRGR2YWdWSGZBNS1FYlp6d3xBQ3Jtc0ttdFJDMDFjUDFTWXFkbEVsME9oc3BhdlotWHkyanJPSThPbkhPWkNzY0ZNRGpva3pmVkpqcTlUSzNXVFl3NVhEX1RZaWNObGdadi1DM0RxMXQ5Qmo3X1JVakVxOUFYZjMxYUVVaFVFYnh6SmppUTllTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickstarter.com%2Fprojects%2Fbtm2%2Fbehind-the-mask-ii-the-return-of-leslie-vernon&v=IWIn1Rw5bKs]Leslie Vernon Returns on Instagram: @LeslieVernonReturnsNathan Baesel on Instagram: @nathanbaeselDavid J. Stieve on Instagram & Bluesky: @DjStieveCatch Nathan at Midsummer Scream in Long Beach, CA — August 7–9Nathan will also be at Triangle Terror Con in Durham, NC — September 26 Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and find us on Instagram @MidnightHorrorPictureShow.Theme music by @nick_ferreri [https://www.youtube.com/@nick_ferreri] Chapters: (0:00) Welcome to Midnight Horror Picture Show & Episode Intro (1:35) Meet Nathan Baesel & David J. Stieve: The Minds Behind Leslie Vernon (2:28) The Behind the Mask 2 Kickstarter: $322K and Counting (4:45) Why Behind the Mask Flopped at the Box Office (And Became a Cult Classic Anyway) (5:20) "Blockbuster Built Behind the Mask": The Power of Horror Cover Art (7:18) The Death of Discovery: Movie Poster Culture vs. Streaming Thumbnails (10:00) 20 Years Later: The Urgency Behind Finally Making the Sequel (11:30) The Original Team Returns: Who's Back for Behind the Mask 2 (14:45) Crafting Leslie Vernon: The Character Who Breaks Every Slasher Rule (17:30) Leslie as Metaphor: The Anxious Young Artist Hiding in Plain Sight (18:40) Nathan Baesel on Finding Leslie Through His Own Hunger for Validation (21:50) "Relatability Is the Currency of Acting" — Nathan's Acting Philosophy (23:00) Is Leslie Vernon a Villain? David & Nathan Push Back (25:15) The Cider Press Scene & Leslie's Master Manipulation (Deep Dive) (26:00) 🚨 EXCLUSIVE: The Deleted Scene That Was Actually Filmed (31:10) The Kickstarter Rewards, Physical Media & VHS for Leslie Vernon Fans (32:30) Filming Locations for Behind the Mask 2 (Massachusetts or Illinois?) (38:30) Leslie & Taylor: The Dark Love Story at the Heart of the Film (43:10) Why Halloween's Laurie Strode Is the Key to Understanding Leslie Vernon (47:00) The Sequel Script: Multiple Drafts, Table Reads & Getting the Band Back Together (49:45) David's Award-Winning Short "Wait for It" & Expanding the Leslie Vernon Universe (53:00) Nathan Stepping Behind the Camera: Learning From Robert Englund & Scott Wilson (55:00) The State of Horror: Why the Studio System Is Failing Indie Filmmakers (57:30) Netflix, Consolidation & the Future of Independent Horror Distribution (1:00:00) Fan Encounters & Why Nathan Almost Said No to Convention Appearances (1:02:45) Convention Appearances: Midsummer Scream (Long Beach) & Triangle Terror Con (Durham, NC) (1:06:00) Closing Thoughts: What the Sequel Means to the Creative Team (1:07:46) Outro: Stay Spooky & Support Indie Horror
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