59. Herbal Medicine, Integrative Health & How Western Medicine Took Over with Roy Upton, RH, DipAyu (Part 1)

59. Herbal Medicine, Integrative Health & How Western Medicine Took Over with Roy Upton, RH, DipAyu (Part 1)

What if the way we think about medicine in the United States isn't just incomplete but has actually been shaped by a specific historical moment that left behind centuries of wisdom about how to keep people truly well? For most of us, Western medicine is the only medicine we've ever known. But for thousands of years, and still today in much of the world, healing has meant something very different: supporting the whole person, preventing disease before it starts, and working with the intelligence of nature rather than against it. In Part 1 of this special three-part conversation, Dr. Anikó sits down with renowned herbalist and founder of the American Herbal Pharmacopoeia [https://herbal-ahp.org/] Roy Upton to explore the philosophy, history, and practice of traditional medicine and why the United States ended up so far from it. Together they trace how we went from a pluralistic medical landscape to a single, commercially driven model of disease treatment, and what we've lost along the way. Roy shares stories from his decades of work across Ayurvedic, Chinese, and Western herbal medicine traditions from practitioners in the ABC Islands who were paid to keep their patients well, to Indian Ayurvedic hospitals dispensing herbal immune kits during COVID, to Swiss insurance plans covering six-week health spa stays. He also explains the history behind the Flexner Report, the role of the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations, and why 65% of America's medical schools closed within 15 years including those training women and Black physicians. Whether you're new to herbal medicine or deeply curious about how other countries approach health, this episode offers a fascinating and necessary look at the bigger picture of healing. Episode Highlights: 1:00 Introducing Roy Upton: Herbalist, Founder of the American Herbal Pharmacopoeia, and Global Advocate for Integrative Medicine  3:00 The Traditional Medicine Lens: How Ayurveda and Chinese Medicine View the Body and How That Differs From Western Care  6:00 Getting Paid to Keep You Well - The Philosophy of Prevention at the Heart of Traditional Medicine  8:00 Stories From the Field: Practitioners in Vietnam and the ABC Islands Who Treated Health, Not Disease  11:00 The Highest Ideal: Preventing Disease and Promoting Vitality vs. Managing Symptoms  17:00 Preconception Planning and Fetal Education: What Ayurvedic and Chinese Medicine Know About Supporting Life Before It Begins  23:00 Investing Time in Healing: Why Rest, Nourishment, and Presence Are Medicine  24:00 Switzerland, Hungary, Germany: What It Looks Like When Insurance Pays for Healing  28:00 How We Got Here: From Paracelsus and Morphine to the Microscope and Germ Theory  35:00 The Flexner Report: How Rockefeller, Carnegie, and the AMA Reshaped American Medicine  41:00 What the Data Shows: Why the US Spends the Most and Gets the Worst Outcomes  56:00 GAIM and Changing the Narrative: How We Get to 10,000 Integrative Physicians  58:00 The Truth About Supplement Regulation: What Most Doctors and Patients Don't Know  1:03:00 The American Herbal Pharmacopoeia and the Evidence Base Behind Botanical Medicine About Roy Upton, RH, DipAyu; Roy Upton has been working professionally as an herbalist since 1981, with training in Ayurvedic, Chinese, and Western herbal medicine. He is the founder and executive director of the American Herbal Pharmacopoeia (AHP), a nonprofit dedicated to advancing the responsible use of herbal medicine through rigorous critical review of historical and modern scientific literature. Roy maintains formal affiliations with the Bensao Gangmu Institute in Beijing, Sonoran University, the Rick Schultes Center for Botanical Excellence, the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry at UC Santa Cruz, and the Institute for Traditional Persian Medicine at the University of Medical Sciences in Tehran. He is also the founder of the Global Alliance for Integrative Health and Medicine (GAIM), working to unite individuals and organizations worldwide to advance natural healthcare globally. Website: American Herbal Pharmacopoeia [https://herbal-ahp.org/] Coming Next Week In Part 2, Dr. Anikó and Roy Upton dive deeper into specific botanicals for everyday use, when to seek out a professional herbalist, and how GAIM is working to shift the narrative and the system toward a more integrative future for medicine. Connect with Dr. Anikó: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.aniko/ Website: https://www.draniko.com/ Thank you for listening to Nourished with Dr. Anikó!  It would mean the world if you would take one minute to follow, leave a 5 star review and share with those you love!  Your presence is truly felt and deeply appreciated. Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed are those of the host and guests and do not substitute for professional medical advice. Always seek the guidance of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding your health or a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking it because of something you heard on this podcast.

58. Why You Can't Sleep: Insomnia, Melatonin, Sleep Anxiety, and Healthy Sleep Habits with Dr. Caroline Okorie (Part 2)

What if the reason you're struggling to sleep has less to do with willpower and more to do with how your brain, body, and nervous system are responding to stress, habits, and modern life? In Part 2 of this special conversation, Dr. Anikó continues her discussion with Stanford sleep medicine specialist Dr. Caroline Okorie, diving deeper into insomnia, melatonin, sleep anxiety, and the powerful mindset shifts that can transform your relationship with rest. Together, they explore why sleep medications often fail to address the root causes of sleep challenges, how chronic stress and hyperarousal can keep the brain awake, and why many people unknowingly make sleep struggles worse while trying to fix them. Dr. Okorie shares evidence-based strategies for calming an overactive nervous system, including cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia, breathwork, yoga, acupuncture, acupressure, journaling, and practical tools for both children and adults who struggle with sleep-related anxiety. The conversation also tackles one of the most commonly misunderstood sleep aids: melatonin. Dr. Okorie explains what melatonin actually does, when it may be helpful, why more is not better, and the surprising concerns surrounding many over-the-counter products. Episode Highlights: 02:30 How Much Sleep We Actually Need at Every Age 06:30 Understanding Insomnia and Hyperarousal of the Brain 08:00 Mind-Body Approaches for Better Sleep 10:00 Helping Children Navigate Fear, Anxiety, and Sleep Challenges 14:00 Journaling and Brain Dumps to Quiet a Busy Mind 16:00 Why You Don't Have to Earn Your Rest 18:30 Reframing Sleep as an Investment in Your Health 19:00 What Everyone Should Know About Melatonin 23:00 The Hidden Risks of Over-the-Counter Melatonin Products 27:00 Melatonin Use in Children and Why Timing Matters About Dr. Caroline Okorie Dr. Caroline Okorie is a board-certified sleep medicine specialist and pediatric pulmonologist at Stanford University. She specializes in helping children, adolescents, and young adults navigate complex sleep and breathing challenges using an integrative, whole-person approach that combines evidence-based medicine with lifestyle and behavioral strategies. Learn more at: https://okoriemd.com [https://okoriemd.com/] Connect with Dr. Anikó: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.aniko/ Website: https://www.draniko.com/ Thank you for listening to Nourished with Dr. Anikó!  It would mean the world if you would take one minute to follow, leave a 5 star review and share with those you love!  Your presence is truly felt and deeply appreciated. Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed are those of the host and guests and do not substitute for professional medical advice. Always seek the guidance of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding your health or a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking it because of something you heard on this podcast.

57. Why Sleep Matters More Than You Think: Sleep, Growth, Mental Health, and ADHD with Dr. Caroline Okorie (Part 1)

What if one of the most powerful tools for improving your mood, immune system, metabolism, learning, and overall health was something you do every night? Sleep impacts nearly every aspect of our physical, mental, and emotional wellbeing, yet it's often one of the first things we sacrifice in our busy lives. In Part 1 of this special two-part conversation, Dr. Anikó sits down with Stanford sleep medicine specialist Dr. Caroline Okorie to explore why sleep is far more than simply rest. Together, they discuss how sleep supports brain health, emotional regulation, immune function, growth, learning, memory, athletic performance, and long-term wellness. Dr. Okorie shares practical insights into common sleep challenges affecting both children and adults, including sleep apnea, ADHD-like symptoms, allergies, mouth breathing, anxiety, and circadian rhythm disruptions. She also explains why many sleep issues are often overlooked and how parents can identify warning signs that a child may not be getting restorative sleep. If you've ever wondered why sleep feels so essential—or why getting enough sleep can feel so difficult—this episode offers a fascinating look into the science and art of healthy sleep. Episode Highlights: 2:00 Why Sleep Is Essential for Physical, Mental, and Emotional Health 07:00 What Happens When We Don't Get Enough Sleep 11:00 Common Sleep Challenges in Children and Teens 18:00 ADHD, Focus, and the Hidden Impact of Poor Sleep 22:00 What Parents Should Know About Sleep Studies 25:00 Nose Breathing, Airway Health, and Sleep Apnea 33:00 Allergies, Myofunctional Therapy, and Improving Sleep Naturally 35:00 Sleep Medications vs. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia 39:00 Circadian Rhythms, Melatonin, Light Exposure, and Better Sleep Habits Key Takeaway Sleep is not a luxury or a reward. It is a biological necessity that influences nearly every system in the body. By understanding the root causes of poor sleep and supporting healthy sleep habits, we can improve not only how we sleep, but how we think, feel, heal, and thrive. About Dr. Caroline Okorie - https://okoriemd.com/about Dr. Caroline Okorie is a board-certified sleep medicine specialist and pediatric pulmonologist at Stanford University. She specializes in helping children, adolescents, and young adults navigate complex sleep and breathing challenges using an integrative, whole-person approach that combines evidence-based medicine with lifestyle and behavioral strategies. Coming Next Week In Part 2, Dr. Anikó and Dr. Okorie dive deeper into melatonin, sleep medications, natural tools for calming an overactive mind, and why rest should be viewed as a biological necessity rather than something we must earn. Connect with Dr. Anikó: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.aniko/ Website: https://www.draniko.com/ Thank you for listening to Nourished with Dr. Anikó!  It would mean the world if you would take one minute to follow, leave a 5 star review and share with those you love!  Your presence is truly felt and deeply appreciated. Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed are those of the host and guests and do not substitute for professional medical advice. Always seek the guidance of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding your health or a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking it because of something you heard on this podcast.

56. Why You're So Exhausted: Reconnecting with Your Human Rhythms

Do you ever feel like you're constantly moving but never truly catching up? In today's fast-paced world, many of us are living as human doings instead of human beings, running on stress, productivity, and endless to-do lists while feeling increasingly disconnected from ourselves. In this episode of Nourished with Dr. Anikó, Dr. Anikó explores why so many of us feel exhausted, overwhelmed, and stuck in a cycle of constant doing. Drawing from integrative medicine, mindfulness, Ayurveda, and personal reflection, she shares practical ways to reconnect with your natural rhythms and create more balance, meaning, and ease in your daily life. * How chronic stress and busyness disconnect us from our human rhythms * Why many of us are living in a constant state of high alert * The difference between reacting and responding * How meditation helps regulate the nervous system and create space for intentional choices * Simple Ayurvedic morning practices that support wellbeing and restoration * Why meaningful connection, creativity, and rest are essential for health * How our culture ties worthiness to productivity—and how to challenge that belief This episode is filled with compassionate wisdom, practical tools, and gentle reminders for anyone feeling burned out, overwhelmed, disconnected, or simply longing to feel more present in their life. If you've been running on empty, this episode offers an invitation to slow down, reconnect with yourself, and remember what it means to be fully human. Connect with Dr. Anikó: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.aniko/ Website: https://www.draniko.com/ Thank you for listening to Nourished with Dr. Anikó!  It would mean the world if you would take one minute to follow, leave a 5 star review and share with those you love!  Your presence is truly felt and deeply appreciated. Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed are those of the host and guests and do not substitute for professional medical advice. Always seek the guidance of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding your health or a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking it because of something you heard on this podcast.

55. Heal Faster Naturally: Integrative Medicine with Dr. Victoria Maizes

What if your body already knows how to heal and you just need to support it the right way? In this episode of Nourished with Dr. Anikó, Dr. Anikó sits down with internationally recognized integrative medicine expert Victoria Maizes, author of Heal Faster: Unlock Your Body’s Rapid Recovery Reflex, to explore evidence-based strategies for healing, resilience, menopause, chronic pain, surgery recovery, sleep, and whole-person wellness. Together, they discuss how integrative medicine blends conventional medicine with lifestyle medicine, mindset, nutrition, sleep, stress reduction, and personalized care to support the body’s natural healing abilities. Dr. Maizes shares powerful insights on: * how mindset affects surgical outcomes and healing * why sleep is essential for metabolism, immunity, inflammation, and brain health * the latest evidence surrounding hormone replacement therapy (HRT) * the difference between intermittent fasting and time-restricted eating * how chronic pain changes the brain * why individualized medicine matters more than ever This conversation is filled with practical tools, compassionate wisdom, and empowering information for anyone navigating menopause, chronic illness, surgery recovery, chronic pain, inflammation, or simply wanting to better support their health naturally. About Dr. Victoria Maizes: Dr. Victoria Maizes is a pioneering leader in integrative medicine, founding executive director of the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine, professor of medicine at the University of Arizona, and bestselling author of Heal Faster: Unlock Your Body’s Rapid Recovery Reflex. She is internationally recognized for helping people harness the body’s natural ability to heal through evidence-based integrative approaches. At the University of Arizona, Dr. Maizes helped create the world’s leading integrative medicine fellowship and residency programs, which have helped train clinicians now impacting more than 20 million patients worldwide. A board-certified physician in Family and Integrative Medicine, Dr. Maizes is an internationally respected speaker, author, podcast host, and passionate advocate for lifestyle-based healing approaches including nutrition, stress reduction, restorative sleep, environmental awareness, and evidence-based complementary therapies. She is also a founding member and former education chair of the Academic Consortium for Integrative Medicine & Health, a founding board member of the American Board of Integrative Medicine, and an award-winning physician recognized for advancing integrative healthcare into the mainstream. Connect with Dr. Victoria Maizes: Dr. Victoria Maizes Website [https://www.drvictoriamaizes.com/]: https://www.drvictoriamaizes.com/ Book: Heal Faster: Unlock Your Body's Rapid Recovery Reflex [https://www.drvictoriamaizes.com/resources]: https://www.drvictoriamaizes.com/resources Body of Wonder Podcast [https://www.azcim.org/podcast]: https://www.azcim.org/podcast hosted by Dr. Victoria Maizes and Dr. Andrew Weil and produced by the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine.  Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona [https://awcim.arizona.edu/]: https://awcim.arizona.edu/ Connect with Dr. Anikó: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.aniko/ Website: https://www.draniko.com/ Thank you for listening to Nourished with Dr. Anikó!  It would mean the world if you would take one minute to follow, leave a 5 star review and share with those you love!  Your presence is truly felt and deeply appreciated. Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed are those of the host and guests and do not substitute for professional medical advice. Always seek the guidance of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding your health or a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking it because of something you heard on this podcast.