
This Is TASTE
Podcast af Aliza Abarbanel & Matt Rodbard
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If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City. Visit TASTE online: tastecooking.com
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Sami Tamimi is a Palestinian chef and cookbook author based in London. He is the cofounder of the Ottolenghi restaurant group and the coauthor of the award-winning cookbooks Jerusalem and Falastin, and now he has a new cookbook of his very own: Boustany: A Celebration of Vegetables from My Palestine [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/739416/boustany-by-sami-tamimi/]. It’s a pleasure to have Sami in the studio to talk about his path to writing Boustany and the rich Palestinian traditions of agriculture and foraging. Read: The Musakhan Queens of Ramallah [https://tastecooking.com/musakhan-queens-ramallah/] Read: Sami Tamimi Wrote the Book He Wanted to Write [https://tastecooking.com/sami-tamimi-wrote-the-book-he-wanted-to-write/] Subscribe to This Is TASTE: Apple Podcasts [https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-taste-podcast/id1393739959?mt=2], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/3LsLXfnYt6Ugml415hyUfh?si=MRMn32W-S5i9HktfZ_eBIg], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@ThisIsTASTE] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

How fun it was to have Tejal Rao in the studio. Tejal is the co–chief restaurant critic at the New York Times, a role where she shares the mic with Ligaya Mishan. Newly elevated to this important job, we talk about how she views her role as a critic and go over many of her memorable stories. We also look back on her days working at the Village Voice and discuss how that era of internet reporting (or, dare we call it, blogging) informed her well-respected journalism career. Tejal is one of our favorite voices in food. And, at the top of the show, it’s the return of Three Things, where Aliza and Matt talk about what is exciting them in the world of restaurants, cookbooks, and the food world as a whole. On this episode: Zimmi’s [https://www.zimmisnyc.com/] knows its way around aioli, Melissa King’s Cook Like a King [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/716113/cook-like-a-king-by-melissa-king-with-jj-goode/] is a true standout in a busy cookbook season, and Samin Nosrat knows how people want to eat with her new book, Good Things [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/622646/good-things-by-samin-nosrat/]. Also: Ed Park’s new short story collection, An Oral History of Atlantis [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/254787/an-oral-history-of-atlantis-by-ed-park/], is such a trip to the ’90s. Speaking of a trip, we made one to Edmond Hong’s restaurant pop-up, Stones [https://www.instagram.com/stones_nyc/], and it was impressive. Finally, Steak House [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/723311/steak-house-by-eric-wareheim-with-gabe-ulla/9781984862297/?ref=PRHB7BD76FBDB&aid=14813&linkid=PRHB7BD76FBDB], by Eric Wareheim with Gabe Ulla, is documentary cookbook writing at its finest. Listen: Meet Your New New York Times Restaurant Critic, Ligaya Mishan [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/meet-your-new-new-york-times-restaurant-critic-ligaya/id1393739959?i=1000715253929] Read: Omakase Isn’t Always Worth the Hype. Our Critic Says This One Is. [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/dining/restaurant-review-mori-nozomi-omakase.html] Read: The Hard-Shell Taco Deserves Your Respect [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/22/dining/hard-shell-tacos-los-angeles.html] Subscribe to This Is TASTE: Apple Podcasts [https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-taste-podcast/id1393739959?mt=2], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/3LsLXfnYt6Ugml415hyUfh?si=MRMn32W-S5i9HktfZ_eBIg], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@ThisIsTASTE] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Jinwoo Chong is the author of the novels I Leave It Up to You [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/746688/i-leave-it-up-to-you-by-jinwoo-chong/] and Flux [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/720885/flux-by-jinwoo-chong/9781685891930/], a New York Times Editor’s Choice and a finalist for the PEN/Hemingway Award for Debut Novel. We really enjoyed I Leave It Up to You. It’s a family story set in Fort Lee, New Jersey, and it features a Korean family working in a Japanese-Korean restaurant, with a family dynamic that feels quite realistic. Jinwoo talks about the research that went into writing so colorfully about restaurant culture as well as his own food memories from growing up in New Jersey. And, at the top of the show, it’s the return of Three Things, where Aliza and Matt talk about what is exciting them in the world of restaurants, cookbooks, and the food world as a whole. On this episode: David Lebovitz has revised Ready for Dessert [https://www.amazon.com/Ready-Dessert-Revised-Recipes-Baking/dp/0593836294], a visit to Pavé NYC [https://www.instagram.com/pave_nyc/?hl=en], Coffee Project NY [https://coffeeprojectny.com/] is roasting exceptional coffee. Also: One Love Community Fridge [https://www.onelovecommunityfridge.org/] launched a CSA, Van Leeuwen [https://vanleeuwenicecream.com/] is king of non-dairy, and Muteki Udon [https://www.instagram.com/mutekiudon/?hl=en] is serving one of our favorite salads. Subscribe to This Is TASTE: Apple Podcasts [https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-taste-podcast/id1393739959?mt=2], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/3LsLXfnYt6Ugml415hyUfh?si=MRMn32W-S5i9HktfZ_eBIg], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@ThisIsTASTE] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Hunter Lewis joined us in the studio for an entertaining conversation about his career working in food media. Hunter has led Food & Wine [https://www.foodandwine.com/] as editor in chief since 2017, and before that he held editorial roles at Cooking Light, Southern Living, Bon Appétit, and Saveur. That is some résumé, and we talk through his various stops as well as digging into the terrific work currently being done at Food & Wine. We also asked him about the general health of editorial in 2025. It’s an interesting time to be doing what we do, and he doesn’t hold back. Subscribe to This Is TASTE: Apple Podcasts [https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-taste-podcast/id1393739959?mt=2], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/3LsLXfnYt6Ugml415hyUfh?si=MRMn32W-S5i9HktfZ_eBIg], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@ThisIsTASTE] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Eric Sze is the chef-owner behind the Taiwanese restaurants 886 [https://eighteightsix.com/]and Wenwen [https://www.wenwenbrooklyn.com/] in New York City. He’s also working on a debut cookbook, Taiwanese?, and he recently returned from a whirlwind trip conducting research and taking photos for the book. Eric is one of our favorite voices in food, and it’s so fun having him in the studio to unpack his culinary career, the tricky task of defining Taiwanese food, operating restaurants in NYC, and more. Also on the show Matt catches up with journalist Elizabeth Dunn to talk about her terrific story [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/business/david-protein-bars.html] in the New York Times about the protein bar arms race. What is up with the David bar, and the age protein era we are living in? Elizabeth has many thoughts and we had a great time talking esterified propoxylated glycerol. Wild stuff. Read: The Protein Bar Arms Race [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/business/david-protein-bars.html] Read: Consumed [https://consumed.substack.com/] Subscribe to This Is TASTE: Apple Podcasts [https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-taste-podcast/id1393739959?mt=2], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/3LsLXfnYt6Ugml415hyUfh?si=MRMn32W-S5i9HktfZ_eBIg], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@ThisIsTASTE] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

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