John DeGraffenreid - Excommunicated

Preaching - The Reconciliation of the Latino Tribe

Ben listens to a sermon full length, commenting along the way.

Lee Ateema - Curious Outsider

Lee was never in the church, but he's well versed in apologetics and curious about the COG. So he and Ben talk over his questions.

John DeGraffenreid - Excommunicated

Ben and John read and discuss their expulsion letters from the church.

Gloria Froese - Church Talk

Gloria and Ben discuss the Apostles' demand for money and a false prophecy, leaving the church and religion altogether, acclimating to the world,  and all that jazz. Here are links to sermons and talks we reference in our conversation: Apostle Stephen Hargrave extorts money from the Chihuahua Congregation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY8hCUMdhYs [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY8hCUMdhYs] Apostle Stephen Hargrave explains his actions in Chihuahua: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPnTVG8lBZI&t=924s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPnTVG8lBZI&t=924s] Apostle Elisabeth Oppel prophesies a healing that doesn’t come to pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnmVgsldT0o [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnmVgsldT0o]

Adam Pamer & James Degraffenreid - A Friendly Disagreement

Am I a child of God? Adam Pamer doesn't think so. What's the difference between the modern and ancient apostles anyway? Adam, James and I argue, agree, disagree, they tell me they love me, call me brother, and also tell me I'm being demonic. All in good fun.