The CX and Culture Connection Podcast with Host Matt Egol of JourneySpark Consultants
How leaders think often matters more than what they think. In this conversation, Matt Egol welcomes Harvard Business School Professor Emeritus Jerry Zaltman to explore how open-mindedness, curiosity, and thoughtful leadership improve strategic decision making. Drawing from Jerry's latest book, Dare to Think Differently, the discussion examines how leaders can strengthen innovation by questioning assumptions, embracing ambiguity, and developing habits that encourage better thinking. The conversation explores the relationship between customer insights, organizational culture, unconscious thought, metaphor, creativity, and the evolving role of artificial intelligence. Rather than viewing AI as a replacement for human judgment, the discussion highlights how technology can support discovery while reinforcing the importance of curiosity, context, and collaboration. Leaders responsible for customer experience, organizational transformation, marketing, innovation, and business strategy will find practical frameworks for improving collaboration, asking stronger questions, and creating environments where better decisions become more likely. Listen on Spotify. Follow for new episodes. Save episodes to revisit leadership frameworks.
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